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Breah, there's so manyh L's in this post I don't even know where to start. Please don't speak for black people in public.
President Obama bails on the 2012 NAACP convention, but VP Biden and Mitt Romney go
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Breah, there's so manyh L's in this post I don't even know where to start. Please don't speak for black people in public.
kermit da hustla
Banned
nah, obama is a new politician, one not given to playing the old political games of yore. he told the naacp to fukk off, and rightly so. these black groups are doing shyt. they're enriching themselves off the very real plight of black america. where are they mobilizing black educators to teach and educate these youths being neglected at schools? where are those efforts? all i see from the naacp are the same allegiances with safe white liberals that keep blacks in the role of perpetual victim.
I hate when Black people say this. This is a straw man argument. Who is saying that he should be the president for Black People only? Everyone knows this. He is not the President for gay people either but worked to end DADT, came out in support of gay marriage, and stopped enforcing the Defense of Marriage Act. Even though he has done all that for them the LGBT groups are still putting pressure on him (no homo).
Most of his policies has helped the rich. Yea he did payroll tax cuts, and that gives middle class, and working class people more money in there pay checks, but that is also how social security is funded. He already tried to cut social security. Remember the Grand Bargain he was trying to do with Boehner? I guess trying to make a deal to cut social security with the republicans is really helping the middle class
. He didn't let the Bush tax cuts run out. I like a lot of things in the Affordable Care Act, but he didn't fight for the public option, and that would of really helped the average person. Plus the insurance companies are going to make a ton of money because of the mandate. He didn't prosecute anyone from the big banks that crashed the economy, and the banks can are still doing whatever they want (Dodd Frank is a joke). Listen i understand the president is not all powerful and a lot of these problems were there way before he took office. My problem is when he says things like "08 can't happen again", because it is not true. There is nothing in Dodd Frank to stop the big banks from crashing the economy again. And when it happens again who will it hurt the most? Things like this always hit Black people harder.
Do you really think that is the reason Obama didn't go to the convention? Why would he send Biden then? If that was the reason he didn't go than I could respect it. But we all know, that he didn't go because it would make him look too Black during an election year.
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at Obama being a new politician. He play just as many political games as any other politician.
Breah, there's so manyh L's in this post I don't even know where to start. Please don't speak for black people in public.
if you are so sure list them, or you gonna keep it 100% c00n and not? 
theworldismine13
God Emperor of SOHH
Breah, there's so manyh L's in this post I don't even know where to start. Please don't speak for black people in public.
he just pretends to speak for black people, he is actually speaking for muslims
I actually speak for all righteous people, you seem to speak for people full of hatred.
I hate when Black people say this. This is a straw man argument. Who is saying that he should be the president for Black People only? Everyone knows this. He is not the President for gay people either but worked to end DADT, came out in support of gay marriage, and stopped enforcing the Defense of Marriage Act. Even though he has done all that for them the LGBT groups are still putting pressure on him (no homo).
Most of his policies has helped the rich. Yea he did payroll tax cuts, and that gives middle class, and working class people more money in there pay checks, but that is also how social security is funded. He already tried to cut social security. Remember the Grand Bargain he was trying to do with Boehner? I guess trying to make a deal to cut social security with the republicans is really helping the middle class
Listen i understand the president is not all powerful and a lot of these problems were there way before he took office. My problem is when he says things like "08 can't happen again", because it is not true. There is nothing in Dodd Frank to stop the big banks from crashing the economy again. And when it happens again who will it hurt the most? Things like this always hit Black people harder.
I hate when people say this. Just cause you quote your intro to logic class doesn't make your argument any more valid.
I was responding to people in this thread that said Obama was a self hating c00n who panders to white people while ignoring blacks. And even in your post you didn't exclusively say that obama should be for black people. But if you say he has done SOME for black people, but not enough then you are in fact saying that he should cater more to blacks than anyone else. We make up less than 18% of voters so his policy should only pander to us 18% of the time. He has gone above and beyond this. His policies on Helthcare, student loans,education, stimulus, tax breaks and more hav helped black people. No he has not been perfect, but given what he walked into I think he's done a great job. Yes the healthcare bill could have been more robust, but he was trying to gain support from the most people possible, in hindsight this might have been a mistake but at the time it seemed like a good idea. We should be hold him accountable for mistakes but saying he doesn't do enough for black people is not only false but counterproductive.
I'm surprised Obama hasn't gone crazy since dude is put in the precarious position of being over-scrutinized by whites and having the pressure to save the black race in 4-8 years. People forget that he can't just do whatever the fukk he wants just because he is president. There is still a political process and it isn't easy to implement new policies or reform old ones. Each individual black person has the responsibility to do the best for his/herself, despite the disadvantages placed in front of us. We will achieve much more by doing that than waiting for other successful blacks to raise up the race...though I believe that we should all help each other.
As for this particular move, take a step back for a second--if Obama swings a few more white votes by appearing more "safe" resulting in winning the presidency again, then it will be worth it. Then he will have the opportunity to be as black as he damn well wants in his second and final term. Think about the big picture. He achieves more by doing this than he loses since black people are going to vote for him anyway, even if they do so with a bitter taste in their mouths. Meanwhile, he may get a few extra white votes as well. And really, you don't think Barack and especially Michelle Obama, a strong black woman, haven't realized how this will look to black people in the short term? But they're more concerned with winning NOW so they can achieve more later, even if it means doing something unpopular in the moment.
Be impressive black people, be impressive. Stop waiting for the world to fix itself or for someone to fix it for you and start fixing it yourself.
Be impressive.
As for this particular move, take a step back for a second--if Obama swings a few more white votes by appearing more "safe" resulting in winning the presidency again, then it will be worth it. Then he will have the opportunity to be as black as he damn well wants in his second and final term. Think about the big picture. He achieves more by doing this than he loses since black people are going to vote for him anyway, even if they do so with a bitter taste in their mouths. Meanwhile, he may get a few extra white votes as well. And really, you don't think Barack and especially Michelle Obama, a strong black woman, haven't realized how this will look to black people in the short term? But they're more concerned with winning NOW so they can achieve more later, even if it means doing something unpopular in the moment.
Be impressive black people, be impressive. Stop waiting for the world to fix itself or for someone to fix it for you and start fixing it yourself.
Be impressive.
First off, I never said my argument was more valid than yours. If you took it that way then that's on you.
You took the part i put in bold completely taken out of context. I never said that Obama has done SOME for Black people. I said some of his policies have helped Black people. Not that he made those polices exclusively for the betterment of the Black people. There is a difference.
The percentage of a voting population and how much a politician pander is not one in the same. Its about the political power of a particular group. Not just the size of the voting block.
If Obama was white i would be saying the same things. A lot of Black people give Obama a pass because he is Black/biracial. When Bush didn't show up to the NAACP convention a few years ago, people thought it was disrespectful. Now that Obama did it its all good
I disagree that he has gone above and and beyond. I think most democrats would of did the things you mentioned, and those tax cuts put social security at risk.
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Breh, you're either trolling or really that dumb, at which point there's really no sense in trying to educate you.
Breh, you're either trolling or really that dumb, at which point there's really no sense in trying to educate you.
You really have no argument, you're making yourself look foolish.
