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He was the worst candidate next to mike Bloomberg.

:stopitslime:

But dont worry, his base will get exactly what they asked for, nothing.

Absolutely false. Biden fans just weren’t all over social media .

Biden demolished the competition.
 

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Absolutely false. Biden fans just weren’t all over social media .

Biden demolished the competition.
I dont care how you feel he ran against the competition, during a time when we need drastic action, we get status quo stagnation.

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I dont care how you feel he ran against the competition, during a time when we need drastic action, we get status quo stagnation.

:stopitslime:

Dumbest thing I’ve ever read on Biden here.

how’s he the status quo to trump?
 

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https://www.cbc.ca/radio/asithappen...mericans-about-canadian-health-care-1.5631874

This former U.S. health insurance exec says he lied to Americans about Canadian health care

'I feel terrible about my role in that,' says Wendell Potter who now leads Medicare for All Now

Wendell Potter says the stark differences in how Canada and the U.S. are weathering the COVID-19 pandemic compelled him to speak out once more about the lies he says he peddled to Americans when he worked as a private insurance executive.

Potter used to be the communications vice-president of Cigna, a U.S. insurance company. Now he leads an organization called Medicare for All Now.

Potter wrote on Twitter that Cigna spent "big $$" trying to sell Americans on the "lie" that the Canadian public health-care system is "awful" and the U.S. system is "much better." But the pandemic, he says, proves otherwise. As It Happens has reached out to Cigna for comment.

Canada had more than 103,900 COVID-19 cases and 8,569 deaths as of Monday, according to data tracked by CBC News.

The United States on Monday reported more than 2.5 million cases, or about a quarter of the more than 10 million cases worldwide, according to a tally by Johns Hopkins University. More than 125,700 people have died there.

Here is part of Potter's conversation with As It Happens guest host Duncan McCue.

What were the lies you told Americans about Canada's public health-care system?

We told the Americans that the Canadian system was not the system that we should have anything to do with, that it was "socialized medicine." We used that term repeatedly to try to get people to be afraid of the Canadian system.

We exaggerated and misinformed people about waits. I'm very familiar with the waits that you have to, in many cases, have in Canada for elective procedures. But we wanted people to have the impression that if you have an emergency or if you have any need for medical care, that you were put on a long waiting list.

And it's to try to make people think that Canadians don't like their health-care system and that doctors don't like it and that people are coming across the border in droves to get care in the U.S. So we tried to create that perception and to make people think that's really the way the Canadian system is.

You said this: "We spent big $$ to push the idea that Canada's single-payer system was awful & the U.S. system much better. It was a lie & the nations' COVID responses prove it." What's your evidence for that?

Your testing has been more consistent than ours, more robust than ours. You've had fewer cases and fewer deaths on a per-population basis than we have.

The experience in this country has been among the worst in the developed world when it comes to both testing, treatment and deaths, unfortunately.

A lot of people have responded to your tweet and some people are thanking you for speaking out. There are others who are taking you to task, sir, about your role in creating the current American system and hurting the Canadian system. How do you feel now about what you told people about the Canadian health-care system?

I feel terrible about my role in that, and that I think a lot of the people were just hearing me for the first time.

I began to make amends about 12 years. I left my job in 2008. I testified before Congress numerous times in 2009 and 2010 when Congress was debating the bill that became the Affordable Care Act. I've written books. I've written many articles.

But this tweet, for some reason, or this Twitter thread, really took off in ways that I just could not have anticipated. So there were a lot of people who were just finding out about me, thinking that I had just now begun speaking out. But I've been working to make amends. I've even done a speaking tour of Canada in recent years just to help people understand the difference between the two systems. And I've often called it an apology tour of Canada.

I do apologize. But I will say this. Had I not been in that role, I would not know what I do know, and not be able to pull the curtain back on how the health-care system in this country really operates. People were surprised to hear and read what I had written in many cases. So I feel that it's very important for me to just continue to do that, to pull these curtains back and to provide information that people will just never, ever hear.
 

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Which is why the country is in the position it's in, and will only get worse.

Democracy in a country full of idiots, we get what we deserve.
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Dumbest thing I’ve ever read on Biden here.

how’s he the status quo to trump?
He's the status que in general.

I'm not expecting him to lose to trump, but I'm not expecting him to do anything more drastic than not be trump in office.

We need drastic measures right now, and Joe Biden isnt it, we dont need another old guard Democrat to come and meet Republicans in the middle of center and far right.

We needed someone like Warren, Bernie, Yang, Amy. Take your pick, any of those 4 would be better than Biden, any of those 4 would have pushed for the measures needed to get us out of this shyt storm, I dont count on Biden to push for shyt.
 

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He's the status que in general.

I'm not expecting him to lose to trump, but I'm not expecting him to do anything more drastic than not be trump in office.

We need drastic measures right now, and Joe Biden isnt it, we dont need another old guard Democrat to come and meet Republicans in the middle of center and far right.

We needed someone like Warren, Bernie, Yang, Amy. Take your pick, any of those 4 would be better than Biden, any of those 4 would have pushed for the measures needed to get us out of this shyt storm, I dont count on Biden to push for shyt.


Biden’s agenda is revolutionary in many areas
 

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Biden's platform isn't the status quo.

Neither was Hillary's.

The truth is you all hate iteral change so much that you're willing to be oppressed.

I'm kidding. Most of you all have spouting this logic have advanced degrees from great schools and will be okay.
 

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Biden's platform isn't the status quo.

Neither was Hillary's.

The truth is you all hate iteral change so much that you're willing to be oppressed.

I'm kidding. Most of you all have spouting this logic have advanced degrees from great schools and will be okay.
His platform is not status quo after the progressive dems and by extension the people who voted put pressure on the establishments ass for the past 4+ years ever since crooked Hillary lost. Let's face it in any other election except for this one Biden would have been an automatic L for the dems AND still I'm not sure he can even beat Trump. He's just lucky he's facing the worst president in the history of this country
 

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His platform is not status quo after the progressive dems and by extension the people who voted put pressure on the establishments ass for the past 4+ years ever since crooked Hillary lost. Let's face it in any other election except for this one Biden would have been an automatic L for the dems AND still I'm not sure he can even beat Trump. He's just lucky he's facing the worst president in the history of this country
Biden would have won the nom in 2016 if he had run. :yeshrug:

Obama is still the most popular Democrat in this country. :yeshrug:

The pillars of the progressive movement are just an expansion of Obamaism.:yeshrug:


The Sanders movement failed twice. :umad:
 
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