They would and their quotes cosigning what you are saying are in alot of books that OP refuses to read :drakecomeon: Youtube clips are his knowledge base:flabbysickti:
Prophet Brother Stokely Carmichael ethers Martin Luther King
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They would and their quotes cosigning what you are saying are in alot of books that OP refuses to read :drakecomeon: Youtube clips are his knowledge base:flabbysickti:
Illuminatos
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Thread is disturbing as hell.
OCCAMS_RAZOR
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I am currently reading Stokely Carmichael's autobiography. MLK and Carmichael never had any true antagonism. Whatever tactical disagreements they may have had were hugely sensationalized by the media, and this is why there's so many people who are misinformed now. Carmichael greatly admired MLK, who was like a mentor to him. Their difference in ideology is exemplified in the part of the book that describes the March Against Fear to Canton. Apparently, during the march, MLK had been assaulted (knocked all the way down) by a police officer and Carmichael had almost blown the entire March by swinging on the cop (this was a nonviolent march, so violence of any kind, even self-defense, was a no-no). In order to prevent the march from getting jeopardized, MLK had to shout for others to neutralize Carmichael.
Later on, Carmichael and MLK were discussing what happened, and this is what he said:
"Dr. King, this is the first time. And the only reason I did was because that cracker charged into you. I know I kinda lost it then, but, Dr. King, you can tell those good white folk out there that, if they want non-violence to stay alive, they had better not touch you. Better not lay a hand on you. Because Dr King, the moment they touch you is the moment non-violence is finished."
To echo what someone said, MLK was a complicated man who put wilfully endangered his life for a decade plus just to advance a cause. Criticizing him at forty years remove, is not only disrespectful, it's also not wise, because the resources you're basing your criticism on are probably inaccurate anyway. The 60s was a turbulent time. Freedom of press was abused indiscriminately. I am only 75% through Carmichael's book and in a way I'm more confused about where he stands relative to MLK, Malcolm-X, Elijah Muhammad, Huey P Newton and other prominent civil rights figures than I was before. Someone in this thread said that he (or she) was writing a dissertation on this topic? Can you just break everyone's position down in layman's terms?
Later on, Carmichael and MLK were discussing what happened, and this is what he said:
"Dr. King, this is the first time. And the only reason I did was because that cracker charged into you. I know I kinda lost it then, but, Dr. King, you can tell those good white folk out there that, if they want non-violence to stay alive, they had better not touch you. Better not lay a hand on you. Because Dr King, the moment they touch you is the moment non-violence is finished."
To echo what someone said, MLK was a complicated man who put wilfully endangered his life for a decade plus just to advance a cause. Criticizing him at forty years remove, is not only disrespectful, it's also not wise, because the resources you're basing your criticism on are probably inaccurate anyway. The 60s was a turbulent time. Freedom of press was abused indiscriminately. I am only 75% through Carmichael's book and in a way I'm more confused about where he stands relative to MLK, Malcolm-X, Elijah Muhammad, Huey P Newton and other prominent civil rights figures than I was before. Someone in this thread said that he (or she) was writing a dissertation on this topic? Can you just break everyone's position down in layman's terms?
OCCAMS_RAZOR
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For what it's worth, I do agree that MLK gets an inordinate amount of attention relative to other 'controversial' figures like Carmichael or Malcolm-X-. I only just found out about Carmichael recently and I feel that the education system did me a huge disservice by not at least directing me to people of his ilk. It makes no sense to me how, MLK and Mandela get all the attention but you have to go fishing for info on people like Carmichael, Steve Biko or Malcolm-X-. It's no wonder, black youth these days aren't socially aware.
godkiller
"We are the Fury"
smh fam, why are you holding MLK and his ideas as though they are God's wisdom? MLK is an intellectual and like an intellectual, his ideas should withstand scrutiny. Like Charles Darwin and the theory of evolution he discovered, MLK's ideals stand challenges and the test of time. If his ideas fail then they should be discarded. That does not mean MLK should lose credit for Civil Rights, only that he was not right about everything. Few men ever are.
not hard to see what you're integrating into when you look at the history.
its easy to say in the age of technology
but even now we still remain lost as a people due to lack of (self) knowledge
but i dont understand what technology has to do with it
whites were way more bigoted and prejudice in the 40s and 50s, openly. why would you want to socially intergrate with people thats throwing bricks upside your head? unleashing dogs on you, putting water hoses on you like you're a fire. i just never understood it.
hell, even MLK realized it was a bad plan. soon as he switched the conversation to MONEY and closing the wealth gap -- thats when white people took him out.
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For Carmichael it wasn't about integrating, it was about self-determination. A lot of the whites were confused because they didn't understand why black people would want to force themselves in areas where they were not wanted. It's not because blacks wanted to eat at that particular restaurant or use that particular restroom, it was because they were sick of the unequal laws governing segregation and the federal government's duplicity and didn't want either entity to dictate their actions. Integration, as an end in itself, was hopeless. I am sure most activists of that era would agree with that.
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Neil Tyson
YYZ
Christ.
The first page of this thread makes me sick to my stomach.
The first page of this thread makes me sick to my stomach.
Broke Wave
The GOAT
Anyone who just outright beefs and shyts on MLK is just confused
The_King_of_Everything
Yeah.
Government shills are on the coli now.
