He started with the 400m when I first knew of him back in 2014. Probably switched up to 800m later. happens all the time in track.
props to asian sprinters - they still tryin
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Kunty McPhuck
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He started with the 400m when I first knew of him back in 2014. Probably switched up to 800m later. happens all the time in track.
He won the Silver medal in the 800m at the London 2012.
I should really neg you for your pseudo track and field knowledge
Most of those places you mentioned don't have the slightest bit of training in the mountainous tribal areas. I'm not saying that they'd have runners either way, but I doubt we really know what they can do.
Also, it'd have to be a combination of high elevation AND a running culture. The places in Nepal I know about where people are at high elevation, it's not the sort of place where running would ever get picked up.
One group that seems like they could make some waves are the Tarahumara people of Mexico. There's only 50,000 of them and they're poor as hell, so they ain't got the numbers on their side, but they've destroyed folks in ultramarathons in North America just showing up and running with no real training or equipment.
They hunt deer and wild turkeys by running them to exhaustion.
Secrets of the Tarahumara
The issue with the Tarahumara ever making waves is that they don't like Olympic distances. They see 40-50km runs as sissy shyt that only women do. Their own local events involve running up to 300km in two days, and the races the men have excelled at internationally tend to be more like 100 miles. Marathon length just seems like a warmup to them.
This is what happened when some Americans brought a few of them over to compete in a 100-mile ultramarathon for the first time:
"Leadville was the venue for the American debut of the Tarahumara runners of Mexico. In 1992 the Tarahumara first showed up to run outside their native environs. Wilderness guide Rick Fisher and ultra-runner Kitty Williams brought some of them to Leadville. However the experiment went bust. The problem, it turned out, was psychosocial, i.e. an unfamiliarity with the trail and the strange ways of the North. The Indians stood shyly at aid stations, waiting to be offered food. They held their flashlights pointed skyward, unaware that these "torches" needed to be aimed forward to illuminate the trail ahead. All five Tarahumara dropped out before the halfway point. The Tarahumara teams came back with vengeance in 1993 and 1994 and won the Leadville event outright both years. In 1993, 52-year-old Tarahumara runner Victoriano Churro came in first, followed by 41-year-old teammate Cerrildo in second. In 1994, 25-year-old Tarahumara runner Juan Herrera won in a record time of 17:30. His mark stood for 8 years until broken by Chad Ricklefs in 2002 (17:23)."
Story about it here:
Meeting the Tarahumara at the Leadville 100
Some more recent ones:
50km ultramarathon in Mexico with 500 female entrants, a 22yo Tarahumara woman won in a skirt and recycled sandals, no professional training
Woman Wins 50K In Sandals Made Of Tire Rubber
Tarahumara runner Miguel Lara has won 3 ultramarathons and placed second in 2 more in the last five years. His best races were 15 hours for 100 miles, 6:30 for 50 miles - and that ain't flat road races, that's on dirt trails going up and down hills and shyt. So you're talking about a guy who on a flat road race could easily run two 3:00 marathons back-to-back without a rest. So could he run a 2:00 marathon on its own if he trained for that pace? I doubt he'd come under 2:30...but what if you started recruiting from all the Tarahumara, and training them up at thse marathon distances from when they were young? Hard to know what would happen - none of them ever train at marathon distances or paces even though their endurance is
.Miguel Lara's Results
It'll be interesting to see what they can do if some of them actually get solid nutrition for a couple generations and a real training program.
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You're now shifting goal posts bruh. First it was the mystical "Kalenjins", the high altitude, climate, etc Now it's the "diet"
I said all along there were a myriad of reasons. Never said it was all altitude.
And he is a 400m runner as well. Doesn't negate what either of us had said here.
So, let me get this straight; Kenyan and Ethiopian villagers are better resourced, with better training facilities than Mexicans?
Between them, the East Africans consistently hold 99% of medals and world records in all middle and long distance...from 800m to the marathon.
Kunty McPhuck
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And he is a 400m runner as well. Doesn't negate what either of us had said here.
Every 800m runner runs the 400m. I can bring up ever PB for each of the last medallists from the 2009 Worlds till now and everyone one of them will have a 400m time
So by your logic, even tho you only been following Amos since 2014, when I clearly told you that he is a known 800m runner and Olympic medallist even before you set eye upon him, David Rudisha is a 400m runner as well
Amos doesnt run the 400m at the elite level, so while he runs it, to even consider him a sprinter is
Just like many 100m sprinters double up with the 200m as well. Also 200m / 400m like Wayde van Niekerk, Leshwan Merrit, etcEvery 800m runner runs the 400m. I can bring up ever PB for each of the last medallists from the 2009 Worlds till now and everyone one of them will have a 400m time
So by your logic, even tho you only been following Amos since 2014, when I clearly told you that he is a known 800m runner and Olympic medallist even before you set eye upon him, David Rudisha is a 400m runner as well
Amos doesnt run the 400m at the elite level, so while he runs it, to even consider him a sprinter is
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China is using eugenics to breed better athletes. Yao was a product of such. And because everything is state-run over there, i think they specifically will be the one asian country that can close the gap considerably quicker than other countries.
So, let me get this straight; Kenyan and Ethiopian villagers are better resourced, with better training facilities than Mexicans?
Yes, they better resourced than the Tarahumara. Did you see those pictures? They have NO training facilities. Literally none. The Kenyans and Ethiopians who are winning Olympic medals don't have the best facilities in the world, but they're a hell of a lot better than nothing.
We're not talking about Mexicans in general. These tribal Tarahumara Indians ain't in no Mexican Olympic program. Some of those races I mentioned, they were literally recruited by some Americans walking around to villages and saying, "who are the fastest runners here?" and then just bringing them up to race with no training. 4 out of 5 guys on that 2nd team were from the same village of just 500 people.
Speaking of Mexico, they have had some decent long-distance runners back in the 1980s and 1990s. All their national records are 20+ years old because their marathon program sort of fell apart since then.
Rodolfo Orozco was one of the best marathoners of the early 1980s, winning big races across the world and getting a 2:09:33 in New York City in 1982 when the world record was only 2:08:18.
Andres Espinoza was one of the best in the early 1990s, winning New York Marathon in 1993 and pulling a 2:07:19 in Boston the next year, only 29 seconds off of Belayneh Dinsamo's record at the time. In 2003 he set the world record for 40+ with a 2:08:46 at Berlin - that one wasn't beaten until 2015.
Dionicio Cerón was killing people at the same time too, winning marathons all over the world including the first guy to win the London Marathon three straight times and nailing 2:08:30 in winning London in 1995.
Mexico has a decent long-distance training program for their athletes. But not all Mexicans have access to that program. The Tarahumara have never been a part of those facilities. Nor am I sure they even want to - the Tarahumara seem to like their races 10 hours or longer, and maybe that's all they're going to keep doing. But they have incredible talent at distance running, and you can't just assume that they wouldn't make an impact if they ever got access to nutrition and training and actually tried for Olympic distances.
Meanwhile, Japan said fcuk it! and just imported Nikkas..
Abdul Haakim Sani Brown...fastest man in Japan
Nah, you got it twisted. The Africans run barefoot to school. They literally have nothing. Yet, they are the best middle and long distance runners on earth.
u a bytch shut up
Meanwhile, Japan said fcuk it! and just imported Nikkas..
Abdul Haakim Sani Brown...fastest man in Japan
Asians got some strong ass genes. Dude looks almost 100% asian. He just a lil dark skin. Probably could pass a Malaysian.
Ghana and Nigeria got better infrastructure than Ethiopia and Kenya and probably aren't that far off Jamaica.
Not a valid excuse.