PS4 Camera Holding back XBOX ONE Kinect (2k15 Face scanning)

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Provide some sort of proof, whether it be an article, or just you compiling photos/evidence of what you're talking about. I'm genuinely curious. All this "the better camera will make a better face" stuff is factual except the faces in 2k15 will only be so good due to the graphical capabilities the game comes with.
The graphical capabilities of the game are good enough. you see how good ronnie looked in the game. looks like himself. how did that happen? those fools lied and actually had ronnie in the studio when they captured his face. I dont think anyone else has gotten that level of spot on face scan. some have been decent to pretty good but not as good as his.

If you want an example just think logically. if you have to scan something in for accuracy. the most accurate scanner will be the best bet correct?
we all know the kinect cam is a better cam between the two cameras. this is not up for debate. So if we know thats the case. its not a stretch to know that if the game was developed to use the the better scanner(Kinect) obviously it will scan a better depiction of the person, assuming all other things equal (level face, same lightning) vs a ps4 cam scan.

You shouldnt need a link to prove that logical point. its 1+1 =2 . do you need me to link you to math teacher for that to be true?
 

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Why would devs spend time and resources building games around kinect when


#1 microsoft themselves refuse to do it


#2 xbox one is in third place and cant even out sell wii u
 

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The graphical capabilities of the game are good enough. you see how good ronnie looked in the game. looks like himself. how did that happen? those fools lied and actually had ronnie in the studio when they captured his face. I dont think anyone else has gotten that level of spot on face scan. some have been decent to pretty good but not as good as his.

If you want an example just think logically. if you have to scan something in for accuracy. the most accurate scanner will be the best bet correct?
we all know the kinect cam is a better cam between the two cameras. this is not up for debate. So if we know thats the case. its not a stretch to know that if the game was developed to use the the better scanner(Kinect) obviously it will scan a better depiction of the person, assuming all other things equal (level face, same lightning) vs a ps4 cam scan.

You shouldnt need a link to prove that logical point. its 1+1 =2 . do you need me to link you to math teacher for that to be true?

I just wanna see the differences in scans bruh, but ok.
 

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He's talking out of his ass breh u don't smell it? I've seen some perfect scans with the ps camera. I've also seen some really shytty ones

Do I need to link you a math teacher?
 

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They shoulda just used the built in face scanning technology for the x1 version.

Wonder why they didn't.

Do we have any comparisons, do you get better results on either system?

To my knowledge no but I'm actually really interested in finding out
 

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I needed this laugh for the day... a camera holding back a system....:mjlol:
 

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To my knowledge no but I'm actually really interested in finding out
no you dont get any better results. with either system. its the same. i would say it may be a bit harder to use the kinect if whatever your kinect is sitting on isnt already at eye level or you cant find something to sit it on at eye level. trying to hold a kinect in your hand and scan like lying ronnie 2k said with the ps4 cam isnt going to work. the kinect is too big and it needs to be stable. so in that regard i would assume ps4 overall may actually be producing better scans.
 

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I just wanna see the differences in scans bruh, but ok.
There is no difference if the same conditions exist. if i have a ps4 cam and a kinect. with the exact same room lighting. both cams sitting at eye level. i move my head the exact same for both. they will both produce the same exact quality. when what you should see is a better quality on the kinect. especially with some of the scans coming out with less detail some would've liked even when it does come up pretty decent. kinect should pick up more detail.
 

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for the link fan boys.. this is what i'm talking about. that kinect was made for this moreso then the ps4 cam. and this isnt saying the ps4 cam is a crap cam like the ps3 cam. its not. but as far as 3D scanning. that kinect is better then the ps4 cam. especially in the event your lighting sucks. Thats the one thing it has over the ps4 cam hands down. Because it uses infrared light to do depth perception. its shooting light at you, your walls, objects in the room and trying to calculate how quickly that light bounces back to the kinect to figure out the depth of what it just saw. thats more accurate then a normal high res camera. its the equivalent of you going to a tailor and having them wrap the tap measure around your body to get your measurments vs someone taking a very high def picture of you and sending that to a tailor. sure he might be able to some what guess the right measurements with the high def pick. but the infrared pick would be more accurate since its actually measuring you in 3D. But the thing is kinect does both, HD pic + infrared scanning. So its giving the system 2 types of depictions of you for more accuracy in 3D vs what the ps4 could provide.

the kinect cam can already since the depth in your face from say your nose that sticks out vs your cheeks that are a bit deeper towards your face.


goto 1:40

remember what i said earlier about other uses for the kinect. Why stop at face scanning? When we could not only get our faces but our entire bodies in there. for us 6 foot+ dudes we aint afraid to have our real height in a hoop game. We should be able to scan our entire body using that kinect for 2k. As well as our facial expression(remember 2k has scanned this info for real players at their studios. well kinect has that ability right in your house. So not only would you be in the game visually but so would your expressions. you laugh, smile, frown, grimace, differently then other people. that sets you apart from the next person. the ps4 cam was not made to do all of that. there's a reason why it was much cheaper.


i'll add this for reference this is the old 360 kinect i believe. look how legit it already looks without that nonsense that 2k is having you go thru to scan your face. its not nearly as difficult as 2k is making it. but one of the issues is due to the ps cam it has to do some of this stuff for the ps4 users to get a solid scan. not so with the kinect.



I dont need to be in great light with a kinect 2. it can see me in the dark. it can see the depth in my face in the dark.


more links for the link lovers


http://ifixit.org/blog/5684/our-first-look-at-the-xbox-one-kinect-ir-field/

Digging a little deeper, we took a look at the Xbox One Patent:

[0055] The image camera component may include an IR light component, a three-dimensional (3-D) camera, and an RGB camera that may be used to capture the depth image of a capture area… In some embodiments, pulsed infrared light may be used such that the time between an outgoing light pulse and a corresponding incoming light pulse may be measured and used to determine a physical distance from the capture device to a particular location on the targets or objects in the capture area… The phase of the outgoing light wave may be compared to the phase of the incoming light wave to determine a phase shift. The phase shift may then be used to determine a physical distance from the capture device to a particular location on the targets or objects.

moe lanks



wait...what did you say Sir? at 1:07...did you say something about room lightning?
^^^This is the most obvious way you know that 2k built the face scanning for the PS4 and not the kinect. or not a version for the ps4 cam and another version making use of kinect's features. The kinect scans even in shaky lighting should not should still come out solid. 2k15 is not using those kinect features. IF they did it would EXPOSE the lack of ability for the PS4 camera. They cant do that with them making pieces of the game exclusive to Sony(sony paid for that). You cant make someone who paid you extra on the side look bad.
 
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Will the PS4 camera be 1080p 60 fps tho?
 
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