Psychedelics in the Black Community

[trap101-ETHout-Allegri-In]

In... for the enlightenment and transcending planes....

 

[Giselle]

Don Juan's Lab

Did not read yet but I am for psychedelics and would like to try some just to travel dimensions. I’m also glad they’re trying to use it in medicine to treat anxiety depression and other mental illness

 

[010101]

whatever is in you will come pouring out on that "trip"

take some time to think what that'll mean for you personally

don't let the spiritual/superstitious crowd gas you into things before your time

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[Water]

Gonna trip on an island in a few weeks

 

[boriquaking]

I really want to try some mushrooms,but I’m terrified I’ll get stuck in a nightmare of my worst fear or someshyt

Nah, it doesn’t work that way.

 

[boriquaking]

Go drop some acid and get weird

 

[skylove4]

Nah, it doesn’t work that way.

How does it work. Maybe those are just rare horror stories people tell to keep the good shyt from the rest of us

 

[Orbital-Fetus]

whatever is in you will come pouring out on that "trip"

take some time to think what that'll mean for you personally

don't let the spiritual/superstitious crowd gas you into things before your time

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I cannot overemphasize how powerful going into a trip with INTENT can be. Years ago I had some emotional shyt that I had been throwing in the bushes rather than dealing with. One night I took a tab and decided to clean the entire crib. Every part of the place I cleaned I dedicated to thinking about a specific part of my life where I was falling short and or failing. At the end of the night my place was spotless and I had resolved at least on huge problem that I otherwise would have continued to avoid to my (and other's) detriment. I always go into a trip knowing that something is going to break because it has to. Been many years...

 

[Jimmy from Linkedin]

whatever is in you will come pouring out on that "trip"

take some time to think what that'll mean for you personally

don't let the spiritual/superstitious crowd gas you into things before your time

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The best advice in this thread

 

[Zostrianos]

I would caution anyone with known/suspected family history of mental health issues/disorders to be very cautious before taking hallucinogenic drugs.

 

[JQ Legend]

I would caution anyone with known/suspected family history of mental health issues/disorders to be very cautious before taking hallucinogenic drugs.

Damn near every person in the western world has mental problems, most just haven’t been diagnosed

 

[BobbyWojak]

I would caution anyone with known/suspected family history of mental health issues/disorders to be very cautious before taking hallucinogenic drugs.

Damn near every person in the western world has mental problems, most just haven’t been diagnosed

What he said was over-broad but still correct if you have a family history of schizophrenia you shouldn't take any lsd or dmt, psilocybin does not trigger latent schizophrenia.

 

[Orbital-Fetus]

I would caution anyone with known/suspected family history of mental health issues/disorders to be very cautious before taking hallucinogenic drugs.

Damn near every person in the western world has mental problems, most just haven’t been diagnosed

What he said was over-broad but still correct if you have a family history of schizophrenia you shouldn't take any lsd or dmt, but psilocybin does not trigger latent schizophrenia.

I'm talking college days but in retrospect, I've tripped with mentally unstable people. You chill with them when sober or fukking with booze and weed. They got something going on but everyone is like whatever. But then LSD...and now he is telling everyone about a psychic connection to a chick he has a crush on and they are gonna have a super baby...

Been there, done that.

 

[Macallik86]

I struggle with this, as someone who has been using psychedelics as part of my personal and spiritual development for over a decade, and as a proud Black man who has knowledge of self. On one hand, psychedelics have immensely beneficial effects that could be helpful to many in the black community. I think the culture surrounding drug use in the black community needs to shift radically in order for that to happen, though, or else people will tend to ignore the psychological and spiritual benefits and just approach it like another way to get fukked up. You'll inevitably have rappers making songs about popping Xannies and sipping lean with LSD and stupid shyt like that, that are going to influence black people to take them for all the wrong reasons.

Very true. My theory is that there's a lot of trauma in the black community, so regardless of the potential vice, there will be a disproportionate # of black people abusing it to escape from trauma, abuse or a bleak reality.

Yes, it is true that black people were "excluded" from the psychedelic movement in a sense, but it's also true that mixing psychedelic drug culture with the black power movement has historically had negative consequences. For instance, in the 70s, Tim Leary fell in with the Black Panthers after gaining their trust due to his status as the most important figure in the psychedelic counterculture movement. They helped him escape prison to Algeria, and he essentially spent the whole time getting high and almost got them caught up because of how sloppy he was moving. They stopped fukking with him after they realized that his drug culture movement had very little to do with what they were trying to do to liberate black people.

I agree that us being 'excluded' from this section of drug culture isn't the rallying cry that the article makes it out to be. I don't think that psychedelics will suddenly liberate all black people, or that drugs need to be tied into a pro-black platform (unless it is tied to prison reform and reduced sentencing).

On a tangentially related note, I'm not a fan of how the article ties BLM into the mix. Their brand is more of a detraction and delegitimizes the article. I get that it's a decentralized movement, but it still looks suspect in 2022.

I'm also skeptical of these drugs becoming tools of the scientific/medical establishment and becoming subject to government regulation in the process, as the push towards legitimizing psychedelic science/medicine continues. Psychedelics and psychedelic culture are inherently anti-establishment countercultural forces, and the movement gets watered down when you have cacs with MDs in Brooks Brothers sweaters being the gatekeepers legitimizing something that have been part of indigenous cultures around the world for thousands of years.

Within the last decade or so, I do think drugs have lost a lot of the taint that they had post-crack pandemic, and the % of African-Americans experimenting with drugs is probably at its highest levels since the 70s.

Like everything before it, psychedelic culture will become more watered-down as it becomes more accessible. I kinda get your frustration around that, but at the same time, psychedelic culture doesn't own psychedelics. Your desire to keep the current psychedelic gatekeepers in charge is a less pretentious version of passionate craft brewers trying to dictate their values onto everyday people that just want a good tasting beer that gets them drunk... I can appreciate that you appreciate it without having to take a course on hops to have a good time.

 

[TRUEST]

How does one obtain such a drug? I’m asking for a friend.