Public School Teachers are getting outsourced

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The market has little to nothing to do with education in America. Its a function of the state :yeshrug:
:russ:I get it though.
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:yeshrug: I don't blame folks for wanting to come here and teach, education is so devalued here that no one wants to do it and the folks that want to do it are struggling. Even on the college level, there is some BS
 

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:yeshrug: I don't blame folks for wanting to come here and teach, education is so devalued here that no one wants to do it and the folks that want to do it are struggling. Even on the college level, there is some BS
The adjunct situation is :picard:

Administration baits everyone with the possibility of tenure. shyt is straightup entrapment, but that's why I believe if you can get into the administration, you're set for life, whether its in K-12 or post secondary.

Also let's keep it a buck regarding public school k-12 the allure of a pension is the main benefit.
 

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teachers who dont like teaching become administrators.
I've considering being a teacher, but end game wise, I'd have to end up in administration if I ever did it.

But I feel it.

I'd mainly do administration, because there's more structural changes i'd be tempted to tweak, over simply hating to teach. I'm a big picture kind of guy.
 

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I've considering being a teacher, but end game wise, I'd have to end up in administration if I ever did it.

But I feel it.

I'd mainly do administration, because there's more structural changes i'd be tempted to tweak, over simply hating to teach. I'm a big picture kind of guy.
From what I've seen its nearly impossible for admins to make structural change. These days their main job is to appease parents. Whatever "changes" they try to make are ignored by nearly all teachers because they know in a year or two there will be new politicians, a new BOE, and new admins with new initiatives.
 

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teachers who dont like teaching become administrators.

Yeah this is mostly true. I have a large group of friends from undergrad who became teachers and most when given the opportunity chose to become administrators. And when you ask them, they eventually admit they do it because it's the path of least resistance to a slightly above average salary.

But, there are teachers who love being in the classroom and turn down the admin jobs. My homegirl had a chance to go from 60 to 80k in a admin spot but turned it down because she would've left the classroom. Compared to an associate who had no passion for teaching and always aspired to get out of the classroom so she could get an admin job. And so teaching vs. Admin often depends on the values of the individual.
 

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Yeah this is mostly true. I have a large group of friends from undergrad who became teachers and most when given the opportunity chose to become administrators. And when you ask them, they eventually admit they do it because it's the path of least resistance to a slightly above average salary.

But, there are teachers who love being in the classroom and turn down the admin jobs. My homegirl had a chance to go from 60 to 80k in a admin spot but turned it down because she would've left the classroom. Compared to an associate who had no passion for teaching and always aspired to get out of the classroom so she could get an admin job. And so teaching vs. Admin often depends on the values of the individual.
Yeah, it's sad but generally the case. There are exceptions, of course, but even in the courses for admin certification prof's will causally joke about you being "ready to leave the classroom". It either that or people who were never in the classroom (i.e., phys ed "teachers", guidance counselors, etc.).

Principals are basically low level politicians. They pretend to care about whatever in-vogue changes there are and pretend to implement them in their schools, teachers pretend to do them...and even those that generally try to do them just get steam rolled two years later when new politicians try to make their marks and say "oh, that SBAC test we had you preparing kids for for the past two years is no longer being administered", or "the new Superintendent wants to completely re-write the curriculum using this form....so re-do everything you've been working on for the past two years".

At the end of the day, teaching is a government agency and is beholden to government. It's its own version of The Wire.
 
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