Puff Daddy's Bad Boy Entertainment Signs With Epic Records

[The Devil's Advocate]

of course Master P would say that..

he probably got 20%(which is actually good.. very good).. companies like Priority, dont get rich giving away 80% of their own money, and giving away their master recordings.. if you believe that- i really dont know what the hell to even tell you..

and, P didnt pay those guys.. ask Kane-N-Abel, Mia X, hell.. he didnt even pay Beats By The Pound.. thats why they quit working with him..

so now master p been running around lying about his split the whole time... in the same article priority is praising him and the deal AFTER it was over.. and all this time not a single person called him on it... come on breh



ask mia x hmmm

XXLMag.com: Many people can empathize with your decision to step away from the game but was your split from No Limit amicable?

Mia X: We never split up. We are the godmother and godfather of each other’s children, we are in-laws to each other; we are truly family. We still hang out. I just went to a Juvenile concert with Fiend, Mr. Serv-On and KLC and it was really fun. We still communicate with one another because all of us we’re family…

XXLMag.com: What about Master P?

Mia X: We all still love Percy [Master P] dearly but at the same time you got brothers and sisters that you just don’t fool with for one reason or another, that don’t mean you don’t love ’em—dude is family… I wish things could be a little different. I wish we wouldn’t have lost the communication. No Limit was run like a family business, when he went to play basketball [in the NBA] the communication broke down between him and all of the artists.

XXLMag.com: How so?

Mia X: We had a different relationship with our CEO; we used to sit down at the roundtable to discuss the projects, the marketing, videos, dates and then things got really formal and unfamiliar. A lot of people think it had a lot to do with money, it really didn’t. It had more to do with way things were structured. No Limit was a movement, we had a good thing. When things shifted, my parents died and I was like, Well, P ain’t at the label so I might as well not go back and that’s pretty much what happened.



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what about KLC, the founder of beats by the pound

Where would people know you from?
I was a part of Beats by the Pound. Me, Moby dikk, Craig B, and Odell used to be the in-house producers for No Limit. There was another cat named Carlos who’s no longer with us. I produce solo now, with Medicine Men.

Why did you end up leaving No Limit? How did things deteriorate?
When people bring up the money I do talk about it, but it wasn’t the money that made us leave. It was the communication. When [Master P] decided to go pursue his basketball career, it ****ed up our communication. Whenever we had to talk to him, we had to go through somebody. When it goes through somebody, it gets back to him all ****ed up. That started some bull****. Money didn’t have anything to do with us leaving, but after we left, ****, he started sending papers to our lawyers about “failure to report to work.” So we were like, **** it. We were never signed to a contract, so we wasn’t even tripping on the money. We just wanted out. There were several times when we, [Beats by the Pound], tried to talk to him to get the situation solved, because it was some minor ****. It was just his pride. And one thing I know from experience is that he’s a real good person, but he’s influenced by the people around him. So a lot of the decisions that he made didn’t really come from him, it was just what other mutha****ers was telling him.

and just to round out every name you listed... lets ask kane n abel

Describe your overall experience with No Limit Records
You could actually see the principles of success put into motion, believing in yourself, believing in what you are doing. But on the flip side, when you are on top, you have to pay the closest attention to what you are doing, because its so easy to fall down.

Kane & Abel Interview | No Limit Twin Rappers LatinRapper.com




seems to me it's exactly what i said.. they gave the man an 80-20 deal, thinking he'd never come up with marketing and promo money.. and if he did, it wouldn't sell anyway... and he fukking did it.. independent.. no machine.. no borrowing of money.. to the tune of 500 mil

the deal was over, they had to re-up, and priority was like fukk nah.. don't you think if they was getting 80% of no limit, they would re-up in a heartbeat?

then P started branching out, getting involved in the nba, sports management, movies, tv, a bunch of extra shyt... they had a new deal with actual parent companies, and shyt broke down. it wasn't that mom and pop, indy label anymore





but lets stop disrespecting P on here.. like he didn't come first and do what all these nikkas is attempting.. to get rich OWNING a label... not 30%, not even 50%, 80% and up...

jay used to have it.. started selling off roc.. didn't want to put his money up... what happened

dre had it.. started selling it back to iovine.. now he only owns 30% of aftermath

people was trying to do it.. P pulled that shyt off.. a black man at that... give that man his props

 

[hustlemania]

so now master p been running around lying about his split the whole time... in the same article priority is praising him and the deal AFTER it was over.. and all this time not a single person called him on it... come on breh



ask mia x hmmm



what about KLC, the founder of beats by the pound







and just to round out every name you listed... lets ask kane n abel





Kane & Abel Interview | No Limit Twin Rappers LatinRapper.com




seems to me it's exactly what i said.. they gave the man an 80-20 deal, thinking he'd never come up with marketing and promo money.. and if he did, it wouldn't sell anyway... and he fukking did it.. independent.. no machine.. no borrowing of money.. to the tune of 500 mil

the deal was over, they had to re-up, and priority was like fukk nah.. don't you think if they was getting 80% of no limit, they would re-up in a heartbeat?

then P started branching out, getting involved in the nba, sports management, movies, tv, a bunch of extra shyt... they had a new deal with actual parent companies, and shyt broke down. it wasn't that mom and pop, indy label anymore





but lets stop disrespecting P on here.. like he didn't come first and do what all these nikkas is attempting.. to get rich OWNING a label... not 30%, not even 50%, 80% and up...

jay used to have it.. started selling off roc.. didn't want to put his money up... what happened

dre had it.. started selling it back to iovine.. now he only owns 30% of aftermath

people was trying to do it.. P pulled that shyt off.. a black man at that... give that man his props

it had nothing to do with money, yet EVERY interview they did- went to asking them about money.. but, it wasnt about money..?

all them bullsh!t PC answers., and them not getting back together for shows.. nothin.. should let anyone know enough..

for the last time, if you think a company as huge as Priority is gonna give anyone.. not Master P.. ANYONE 80/20 deal, in then take 20- is laughable.. thats not how distribution works.. whatsoever..

 

[imirza]

The responses on the first couple of pages. Gotta love coli CEOs who've never sold a cup of lemonade question a business man with 20+ years of experience

I've been thinking the same thing while reading through the pages
If there's one thing that should be undisputed by now it's that Puffy is a shrewd businessman. He's not worth $700M by being a dummy

 

[Mac Casper]

Master P was in the NBA?

 

[straightcash]

Diddy starting his own major distribution would be like Ted Turner starting his own wrestling organization (WCW). Doesn't matter if you can, its whether you should. The answer is no.

 

[GoFlipAPack]

fukk all that. We have to suffer thry two more Solo diddy albums

 

[blackzeus]

now to end my point and not derail the thread..........


that's what i would think puff would be doing.. he has his own millions.. hundreds of millions.. you'd think he'd put up his own marketing and promotion and recording budgets, then just look for someone to ship them out for him, at a percent

instead of getting a smaller percent of his own company, but letting a bigger company run and police it all, while taking most of the profits

/thread, since when do billionaires sign 360 deals? This Epic deal only makes sense if you don't have the cash to run it on your own. Anybody with half a brain with millions at their disposal would keep it all to themselves. All Puff has to is drop a couple platinum singles on itunes every year and he would be more than profitable. All these nikkaz fake when it comes to how much cash they really have IMHO

 

[blackzeus]

Business is about using the other guy's money to get rich. Why would diddy use his own money to push a label that's weak right now? makes no sense.


Spielberg is a billionaire, but even he doesnt finance his own movies.

You do realize his movies have $100 million dollar budgets right? That's just the budget for shooting the film, that doesn't including the promotion and merchandising costs. You can't compare having to invest $100 million to make a film that may flop to having to invest $500K into studio time and promotion for a f*ckin' music single.

 

[ORDER_66]

Diddy starting his own major distribution would be like Ted Turner starting his own wrestling organization (WCW). Doesn't matter if you can, its whether you should. The answer is no.

WCW was actually successful... Especially when the NwO started... Ted Turner shouldnt have sold it, now what we gonna watch instead of WWE? TNA????

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

Master P was in the NBA?

By actually making it to the big stage of professional leagues, Master P (AKA Percy Miller) wins this post.

Miller earned a basketball scholarship to the University of Houston, but had to break that commitment when he suffered a knee injury just weeks into his freshman year. He focused on his rap career, but eventually landed NBA contracts with both the Charlotte Hornets and the Toronto Raptors. He never made the cut for either team’s regular season roster.



never made it.. but the process of trying fukked up his label

you can do one thing great or many things good... soon as he started running 10 no limit companies, it fell apart

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

it had nothing to do with money, yet EVERY interview they did- went to asking them about money.. but, it wasnt about money..?

all them bullsh!t PC answers., and them not getting back together for shows.. nothin.. should let anyone know enough..

for the last time, if you think a company as huge as Priority is gonna give anyone.. not Master P.. ANYONE 80/20 deal, in then take 20- is laughable.. thats not how distribution works.. whatsoever..

so i just gave you words directly from everyone involved... everyone you said... from P.... from Priority.... everyone... and at no point and time through 25 years, not one source has ever called this deal fake or even gave a different split



but lets just ignore all that and go with what you think... why? cause facts?? nah you haven't listed ANY....

nah lets just go off what you say, mainly because you said it.... that sounds smart

 

[Big Boss]

speilberg owns his own fukking production company or have you never heard of dreamworks breh

business is NOT about that.. lord

every insanely rich person OWNS his company... puff does not own ANY of his... period


is puff rich... yes

but his forbes listings are on par for what P had 15-20 years ago breh... how? by owning his company.. owning the masters.. owning the name, the brand, the product, the way it works and all power


now what he did with that money is on him

but you cannot tell me it's smarter to own a piece of casino than it is to own the fukking casino

if that was the case why aren't the big 4 record companies trying to back away from this model and just distribute? using other's people money?

no they want to own more and more little labels, and then take them over with money, to the point they can suck them dry and spit them out ala microsoft or somebody


you don't NOT want to be operating with the DEPENDENCE of another man's (company's) money... that's not what businessmen do

 

[hustlemania]

so i just gave you words directly from everyone involved... everyone you said... from P.... from Priority.... everyone... and at no point and time through 25 years, not one source has ever called this deal fake or even gave a different split



but lets just ignore all that and go with what you think... why? cause facts?? nah you haven't listed ANY....

nah lets just go off what you say, mainly because you said it.... that sounds smart

have you personally ever done distribution..? lets just get that outta the way first..

because, you clearly have no idea how distribution works.. whatsoever.. no business, with any kinda common sense.. especially, a company as well established as Priority.. would give ANYONE a 80/20 deal that benefits the other person getting 80% profit.. why you're still debating this, is beyond dumb..

 

[Mac Casper]

have you personally ever done distribution..? lets just get that outta the way first..

because, you clearly have no idea how distribution works.. whatsoever.. no business, with any kinda common sense.. especially, a company as well established as Priority.. would give ANYONE a 80/20 deal that benefits the other person getting 80% profit.. why you're still debating this, is beyond dumb..

You have distributors and record labels mixed up . . distribution companies make a smaller percentage

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

have you personally ever done distribution..? lets just get that outta the way first..

because, you clearly have no idea how distribution works.. whatsoever.. no business, with any kinda common sense.. especially, a company as well established as Priority.. would give ANYONE a 80/20 deal that benefits the other person getting 80% profit.. why you're still debating this, is beyond dumb..

nikka shut up

the main point of his deal... was the fact they didn't believe in him for one... they never gave anyone that deal again... and they wouldn't even let him reup on the deal


HE PAID FOR EVERYTHING... they simply made the cds and shipped them.... so yes... if some hood nikka came to me today and said... "i'll put up the money for everyting, you just get the cds made and ship them out and i'll give you 20%" fukk yea i'd take it

they never expected him to have 100k to put up... or go gold on his first album... they knew after the first album they fukked up


again... go off a story vetting by numerous media and the people involved themselves.... or go off internet nikkas who still haven't posted a single FACT and are just guessing


until you post a single FACT that this deal didn't happen... go away

You have distributors and record labels mixed up . . distribution companies make a smaller percentage

trust me... facts aren't working with this guy