"Pusha T is not a top 50 rapper of all-time" - Jim Jones

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Coldest verses of all time - just stop:mjlol:

Ghost and Luda were more memorable on those tracks.

Man I aint want to touch that tbh lol, if jada verse one of the coldest then Ghosts is a topp 5 oat cuz it was way better and he had the hook too :ehh:
 

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A nikka that just boxed you into a corner and is whipping your ass :mjlol:

Gtfoh with your selective reasoning :camby:

YEA THATS WHY THOSE VERSES
WHOOPED ASS DURING THE ACTUAL VERZUZ....

WE TALKING REALITY, NOT TROLL BABBLE.
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ADDIDON DOESNT QUALIFY AS A MIXTAPE TRACK?
ITS DEFINITELY NOT A REAL SONG.

:mjlol:NONE OF THOSE PUSHA T SOLOS
ARE DOING A DAMN THING IN A VERZUZ.

YOU JUST NAMING SONGS
TO GET TO 20.
WE TALKING VERZUZ.

THE KANYE TRACKS
AND GRINDING ARE THE ONLY
THINGS HE COULD USE.

ILL GIVE YOU
WHAT HAPPENED TO THAT BOY ALSO.
YOU REACHING FOR SONGS
AND DIDNT EVEN LIST THAT.
:devil:
:evil:


Lets be honest here, outside of their fanbase or the EC a lot of those songs you listed aint ringing out like that either and I love Jadakiss. These are both primarily bars first rappers so I put bars against bars. don't see the issue.

I'll take the L on adidon, I'm mad at myself for giving you a small bit of ammo to latch on :mjlol: this how it starts :dead:

It just comes off as rampant hating. as a fan of rap...how can you not fukk with shyt like numbers on the boards lol
 

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Lets be honest here, outside of their fanbase or the EC a lot of those songs you listed aint ringing out like that either and I love Jadakiss. These are both primarily bars first rappers so I put bars against bars. don't see the issue.

I'll take the L on adidon, I'm mad at myself for giving you a small bit of ammo to latch on :mjlol: this how it starts :dead:

ONCE AGAIN WE TALKING REALITY
NOT TROLL BABBLE.

JADA HAS ALREADY WON 2 VERZUZ.

WE DONT HAVE TO DO FALSE HYPOTHETICALS.

PUSHA CANT DO A VERZUZ
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A nikka that just boxed you into a corner and is whipping your ass :mjlol:

Gtfoh with your selective reasoning :camby:

I don't really like piggy backing off of posts, but Pusha's 20 wouldn't be a Jada 20 in a Verzuz. Let's just say Push uses the Justin Timberlake record, Jada could counter with any of these:

Jennifer Lopez- Jenny From The Block

Mariah Carey- Honey

Mary J Blige- Family Affair Remix

Jada could play songs where he wrote Puff's verse. I don't see a Push song beating "Victory" .

There's all kinds of legendary posse cuts that Jada could play from "Benjamins" to "Resevoir Dogs" to "Scenario 2000" to "24 Hrs To Live" to "Done Started Something".

Jada could even bully Pusha with "Knock Yourself Out" saying I made a hit with your own producer off of an instrumental from your shelved album. Ya'll should've let me write for ya'll. Jada even has a dope verse on The Clipse's own "I'm Not You".

Jada also has:

Show Discipline
None of Ya'll Better Than Kiss
Put Your Hands Up
Time's Up
Why
 

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ONCE AGAIN WE TALKING REALITY
NOT TROLL BABBLE.

JADA HAS ALREADY WON 2 VERZUZ.

WE DONT HAVE TO DO FALSE HYPOTHETICALS.

PUSHA CANT DO A VERZUZ
:devil:
:evil:


Man didn't lil bow wow do a verzuz now a dude who has been spitting nothing but bars and staying relevant for decades can't do one :dead:

this why I say its just wanton hating.
 

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I don't really like piggy backing off of posts, but Pusha's 20 wouldn't be a Jada 20 in a Verzuz. Let's just say Push uses the Justin Timberlake record, Jada could counter with any of these:

Jennifer Lopez- Jenny From The Block

Mariah Carey- Honey

Mary J Blige- Family Affair Remix

Jada could play songs where he wrote Puff's verse. I don't see a Push song beating "Victory" .

There's all kinds of legendary posse cuts that Jada could play from "Benjamins" to "Resevoir Dogs" to "Scenario 2000" to "24 Hrs To Live" to "Done Started Something".

Jada could even bully Pusha with "Knock Yourself Out" saying I made a hit with your own producer off of an instrumental from your shelved album. Ya'll should've let me write for ya'll. Jada even has a dope verse on The Clipse's own "I'm Not You".

Jada also has:

Show Discipline
None of Ya'll Better Than Kiss
Put Your Hands Up
Time's Up
Why

the point wasn't that he would win a verzuz vs kiss its that you could pull enough songs to do one. Rather he wins or not wasn't a part of the criteria since there are several things that go into winning one of those shyts anyway and the songs are just one of them.

Kiss is a top tier mc. he probably would win a vs just off of stage presence. not really the argument I was making, personally
 

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:mjlol: STOP IT.
THEY COULD HAVE EASILY DID 20
WITHOUT MIXTAPE JOINTS.

MONEY, POWER, RESPECT
BENJAMINS
WE'LL ALWAYS LOVE BIG POPPA
ALL FOR THE LOVE
WILD OUT
RECOGNIZE
RIDE OR DIE bytch
KNOCK YASELF OUT
WE GON MAKE IT
PUT YA HANDS UP
WHY
GOOD TIMES
THE LIFE
2 GUNS UP
BANNED FROM TV
nikkaS DONE STARTED SOMETHING
RESERVOIR DOGS
LAST DAYZ
RUN
MADE YOU LOOK

PUSHA COULDNT EVEN DO A VERZUZ

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:evil:

:damn:
 

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I don't really like piggy backing off of posts, but Pusha's 20 wouldn't be a Jada 20 in a Verzuz. Let's just say Push uses the Justin Timberlake record, Jada could counter with any of these:

Jennifer Lopez- Jenny From The Block

Mariah Carey- Honey

Mary J Blige- Family Affair Remix

Jada could play songs where he wrote Puff's verse. I don't see a Push song beating "Victory" .

There's all kinds of legendary posse cuts that Jada could play from "Benjamins" to "Resevoir Dogs" to "Scenario 2000" to "24 Hrs To Live" to "Done Started Something".

Jada could even bully Pusha with "Knock Yourself Out" saying I made a hit with your own producer off of an instrumental from your shelved album. Ya'll should've let me write for ya'll. Jada even has a dope verse on The Clipse's own "I'm Not You".

Jada also has:

Show Discipline
None of Ya'll Better Than Kiss
Put Your Hands Up
Time's Up
Why
I’m not even arguing for Pusha over Jada - I’m saying that same mixtape and solo shyt people are trying to beat Push over the head with they better apply to Jada because he’s the definition of that. He ain’t move no needles mainstream wise as a solo or group artist wise so this impact shyt @CHICAGO is talking is bullshyt
 

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I’m not even arguing for Pusha over Jada - I’m saying that same mixtape and solo shyt people are trying to beat Push over the head with they better apply to Jada because he’s the definition of that. He ain’t move no needles mainstream wise as a solo or group artist wise so this impact shyt @CHICAGO is talking is bullshyt

Group wise, The Lox has "Money, Power, Respect" and "Ryde or Die Chick". Those songs had impact.

Solo wise, Jada has "We Gon Make It", "Knock Yourself Out", "Time's Up" and "Why".
 

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Man didn't lil bow wow do a verzuz now a dude who has been spitting nothing but bars and staying relevant for decades can't do one :dead:

this why I say its just wanton hating.

:gucci:WHAT TYPE OF ALTERNATE REALITY
DO YOU nikkaS LIVE IN?

BOW WOW HAS WAY MORE
SONGS THAN PUSHA T.

YOU nikkaS KEEP
STRETCHING THIS RELEVANCY TALK.

PUSHA WASNT RELEVANT FOR
A LONG TIME.
HE WAS JUST RIDING YE'S COATTAILS.

THE DRAKE BEEF GAVE HIM
NEW LIFE.
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I’m not even arguing for Pusha over Jada - I’m saying that same mixtape and solo shyt people are trying to beat Push over the head with they better apply to Jada because he’s the definition of that. He ain’t move no needles mainstream wise as a solo or group artist wise so this impact shyt @CHICAGO is talking is bullshyt

The impact argument is a copout to fit the narrative at the moment. Its largely a meaningless metric when it comes quality of music because artists are never 1:1 comparison.

Soulja boy certainly has had more impact on the direction of pop rap than freddie gibbs in his lane. But Freddie has shyt like pinata :mjlol: you telling me as a fan of good rap music soulja is more deserving of being on a top rapper list cuz he basically was the forefather of a lot of wack shyt.

Hell lil b has more impact than a lot of nikkas favorites :mjpls: lets not go down this road
 
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