"Pusha T is not a top 50 rapper of all-time" - Jim Jones

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It is only on this site is were I hear people shyt on Jada's discography like that
Do you hear people praise his discography like that? Lol. People don’t usually haphazardly trash a rapper’s catalog offline often…but they’re quick to salute it if it’s fire. I never once heard that for Jada.
 

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Do you hear people praise his discography like that? Lol. People don’t usually haphazardly trash a rapper’s catalog offline often…but they’re quick to salute it if it’s fire. I never once heard that for Jada.
Yea his albums was always average. Never a cohesive project. Wanted to make a song for the south, song for west instead of just making the best music
 

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Jim smacks kufi’s in real life. So I don’t think he’s worried about a lyrical rebuttal. I’m sure Gibbs thought the same.

:comeon:

Jim been victimized far more than he's been the aggressor, let's not go full retard here.

Regardless, nobody is going to be hurt if Pusha disses him so it's a moot point.

Fred.
 

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Ran Pusha catalog back thanks to Jimmy :wow:

Dude's catalog is real strong especially factoring Clipse in

Now do he have a landmark album like Doggystyle or Cuban Linx or AEOM or LAD? Of course not. But consistency count for something

I would call Lord Willin' a classic for sure. Again is it ATLiens or 36 Chambers? No but there's different tiers of classic albums.

Clipse and Pusha got limited commercial appeal so in reaching a narrower audience they gonna have a harder time getting a "consensus classic" but HHNF, My Name Is My Name, Daytona and It's Almost Dry is a real strong run. I put King Push a step below those but still a solid project. List off the hip hop acts that debuted 00s or later with a better top to bottom discography than Push it gonna be a short list
 

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Do you hear people praise his discography like that? Lol. People don’t usually haphazardly trash a rapper’s catalog offline often…but they’re quick to salute it if it’s fire. I never once heard that for Jada.

People fukked with the last album kiss of death and the last kiss
 

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List off the hip hop acts that debuted 00s or later with a better top to bottom discography than Push it gonna be a short list

T.I.

Kendrick Lamar

Jadakiss (if we're counting when he dropped his first solo)

Styles P (see above)

Big Boi (see Jada)

Kanye West (just based off the music and not the MAGA madness)
 

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Ran Pusha catalog back thanks to Jimmy :wow:

Dude's catalog is real strong especially factoring Clipse in

Now do he have a landmark album like Doggystyle or Cuban Linx or AEOM or LAD? Of course not. But consistency count for something

I would call Lord Willin' a classic for sure. Again is it ATLiens or 36 Chambers? No but there's different tiers of classic albums.

Clipse and Pusha got limited commercial appeal so in reaching a narrower audience they gonna have a harder time getting a "consensus classic" but HHNF, My Name Is My Name, Daytona and It's Almost Dry is a real strong run. I put King Push a step below those but still a solid project. List off the hip hop acts that debuted 00s or later with a better top to bottom discography than Push it gonna be a short list
This thread made me do the same. I’m actually reverse on Lord Willin. I always thought it was a classic but now…. Those neptunes beats are HORRIBLE. He definitely wasn’t giving them those Jay-Z bangers

Re-up gang mixtapes is when they started excelling. Rapping on other beats showed their true skill. And it was pure coke rap for 2 albums then they came back with HHNF and stepped it up, which is why that one is the highly rated one.

Seriously. I don’t know what Neptunes was sniffing with some of those early Casio shyts.
 

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This thread made me do the same. I’m actually reverse on Lord Willin. I always thought it was a classic but now…. Those neptunes beats are HORRIBLE. He definitely wasn’t giving them those Jay-Z bangers

Re-up gang mixtapes is when they started excelling. Rapping on other beats showed their true skill. And it was pure coke rap for 2 albums then they came back with HHNF and stepped it up, which is why that one is the highly rated one.

Seriously. I don’t know what Neptunes was sniffing with some of those early Casio shyts.

Got to agree to disagree on this

Now certain beats ain't age particularly well? Yes, I would give you Ma I Don't Love Her and Comedy Central for example but Intro, Young Boy, Virginia, Cot Damn, I'm Not You, Grindin obviously, When The Last Time, they got to show more variety than they did selling them expensive ready made hits with the Neptunes sound

Far as Jay, I don't really want to hear Clipse doing Excuse Me Miss or Change Clothes. And a couple them BP2 beats sounded like Philly's Most Wanted leftovers

Even I Just Wanna Love You, classic party track but When The Last Time a little darker, weirder, it fit Clipse better

HHNF a great album. Production is more out there and unique, won't dispute it's better from a straight artistic standpoint but I still think Lord Willin the more enjoyable album overall

But that said if you not feeling Lord Willin these days, not gonna say you're wrong. The sound is very much of that era, and there's a lot of shyt from that timeframe I think aged horribly
 

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T.I.

Kendrick Lamar

Jadakiss (if we're counting when he dropped his first solo)

Styles P (see above)

Big Boi (see Jada)

Kanye West (just based off the music and not the MAGA madness)

I wouldn't count artists like Big Boi or Lox who dropped their debut albums in the 90s and were stars before 2000 hit

If we doing the timelines like that then we comparing Push to artists that dropped their solo debut in 2013 or later and the list get even shorter
 
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