Put Prime Kobe on those Heat Teams instead of Prime Lebron. they go 4 for 4 in the Finals

[Swagnificent]

Where's this notion Kobe's a great finals performer coming from anyway?

2000 NBA Finals
Kobe - 15.6 PPG 4.6 RPG 4.2 APG 36.7 FG%

2001 NBA Finals
Kobe - 24.6 PPG 7.8 RPG 5.8 APG 41.5 FG%

2002 NBA Finals
Kobe - 26.8 PPG 5.8 RPG 5.3 APG 51.4 FG%

2004 NBA finals 5 games loss
Kobe - 22.6 PPG 2.8 RPG 4.4 APG 38.1 FG%

2008 NBA finals 6 games loss
Kobe - 25.7 PPG 4.7 RPG 5.0 APG 40.5 FG%

2009 NBA finals 5 games win
Kobe - 32.4 PPG, 5.6 RPG, 7.4 AGP 43.0 FG%

2010 NBA Finals 7 games
Kobe - 28.6 PPG 8.0 RPG 3.9 APG 40.5 FG%

37 games - 25.3 ppg, 5.7 rpg, 5.1 apg, 1.8 spg, 0.9 bpg, 3.3 tov, 41.2 FG%, 84.8 FT%, 50.7 TS%


nikkas act like he was averaging 30 on godly efficiency or some shyt.

5-2 vs 2-4

That's the only stat that matters.

 

[Swagnificent]

Lebron James 35 points, 13 rebounds, and 8 assists.

You could combine the best individual stats from every single one of Kobe's final appearances and it would be lower than Lebron's. His best rebounding series? Worst than Lebron. Best assisting series? Worse than Lebron.

And then you compare teammates? Lebron's performance last series was better than anyone of Kobe's final
appearances and it's not even close.

Those were the emptiest stats in basketball history.

The nikka shot 35% when guarded by Igoudala. He was missing easy shots right and left. The Warriors showed him the ULTIMATE DISRESPECT and guarded him one on one.

Prime Kobe being left one on one getting the looks Bron got that finals woulda averages 50 ppg.


Get your stupid ass outta the stat sheet and watch the games. Bron's performance last year was EMBARRASSING.

 

[Dwight Howard]

Key word in bold. Too bad LBJ couldn't afford to play like shyt in the finals and still win or have the best peak player ever to take off pressure.

I mean he's been on stacked teams since 2010, what more do you want?

 

[Swagnificent]

Apparently you never watched Kobe work with Andrew Bynum & Pau Gasol constantly in the paint huh?

This.

Kobe played his entire career with the lane essentially closed off with either Shaq or Gasol and Bynum.

The fact be shot 45% with no driving lanes is amazing.

If prime Kobe played with today's spacing, that 60 point finale would be a routine occurrence.

 

[ghostwriterx]

Apparently you never watched Kobe work with Andrew Bynum & Pau Gasol constantly in the paint huh?

Hmm, you really want to compare Bynum and Gasol to Bosh and Battier/Miller/Haslem/Joel Anthony?

Not to mention Bynum was playing 20/25 mins when they were winning chips when he wasn't injured. When his minutes went up to 30+ they were getting swept by the Mavs/Okc.

 

[Swagnificent]

Key word in bold. Too bad LBJ couldn't afford to play like shyt in the finals and still win or have the best peak player ever to take off pressure.

Kobe won 2 rings with Gasol. A player that is inferior to Wade and Bosh.

Just face the facts. Bron is a choker. And Kobe is not.

With inferior help Kobe won more titles.

 

[Newzz]

Key word in bold. Too bad LBJ couldn't afford to play like shyt in the finals and still win or have the best peak player ever to take off pressure.

But he was playing for 4 years next to Dwyane Wade and Wade led them in MANY playoff series'....so for you to say something like this, it reads as if you're blaming Wade for Bron's failures to win


You Lebron stans are something else. Without Wade...LeBron would still be a ring less "King". Remember, Wade has won a Championship without LeBron, LeBron hasn't shown he can win without Wade

 

[Draje]

Why Yall acting like OP ain't say prime Kobe tho?

Prime Kobe = Kobe from anywhere from 2003-2009

Surround a 2003 Kobe with a Prime Wade as his second option, and Bosh as his third, with Ray Allen, and Battier, and all dem shooters in the east...

Prime Kobe, not post 2010 Kobe.

Yeah, except what about rebounds, playmaking, defensive anchor and versatility, and such?

You gonna put lineups of Chalmers, Wade, Kobe, Battier, and Bosh? Good luck with that matchup against the Celtics and Pacers in 2012 when Lebron was averaging double digit rebounds and guarding Kevin Garnett and David West. Oh

Lebron played large minutes and could be plugged into multiple positions amongst even the bench lineups that Kobe simply can't replicate. A lot of our depth chart worked because Lebron's ability and versatility on offense/defense.

We lacked size and rebounding but made up with athleticism, versatility, and efficiency.

Get rid of Lebron and replace him with Kobe, you get a better scorer (And honestly, you compare Kobe's playoff stats to Lebron's and it's not that big of a change) but you lose a lot size, offensive/defensive versatility, rebounding, and playmaking plus Lebron's sheer efficiency.

But I'll say this, Prime Kobe would have been much better against the Mavs than Lebron was.

 

[Newzz]

Hmm, you really want to compare Bynum and Gasol to Bosh and Battier/Miller/Haslem/Joel Anthony?

Not to mention Bynum was playing 20/25 mins when they were winning chips when he wasn't injured. When his minutes went up to 30+ they were getting swept by the Mavs/Okc.

You claimed prime Kobe wouldn't be able to find lanes to drive in the paint because of Bosh and Wade....he played with BETTER low post presences in Gasol & Bynum at the same damn time and still found lanes to drive

 

[Newzz]

Udonis Haslem
Prime Chris Bosh
Prime 2005 Kobe
Prime Dwyane Wade
Mario Chalmers

 

[Ben.]

Kobe won 2 rings with Gasol. A player that is inferior to Wade and Bosh.

Just face the facts. Bron is a choker. And Kobe is not.

With inferior help Kobe won more titles.

Gasol is better than Wade from 2012 on.

If that was facts LBJ wouldn't shyt on Kobe in every clutch situation possible (clutch shots in the playoffs, elimination games, game 7s, and finals)

Sad that Kobe has only lead the same amount of title teams as Bron in his career.

 

[High quality poster]

Yeah, except what about rebounds, playmaking, defensive anchor and versatility, and such?

You gonna put lineups of Chalmers, Wade, Kobe, Battier, and Bosh? Good luck with that matchup against the Celtics and Pacers in 2012 when Lebron was averaging double digit rebounds and guarding Kevin Garnett and David West. Oh

Lebron played large minutes and could be plugged into multiple positions amongst even the bench lineups that Kobe simply can't replicate. A lot of our depth chart worked because Lebron's ability and versatility on offense/defense.

We lacked size and rebounding but made up with athleticism, versatility, and efficiency.

Get rid of Lebron and replace him with Kobe, you get a better scorer (And honestly, you compare Kobe's playoff stats to Lebron's and it's not that big of a change) but you lose a lot size, offensive/defensive versatility, rebounding, and playmaking plus Lebron's sheer efficiency.

But I'll say this, Prime Kobe would have been much better against the Mavs than Lebron was.

You saying these things as if Kobe ain't beat Boston in the NBA finals tho, while averaging 8rpg no less, while pulling down 15 rebounds in game 7.

Point is Prime Kobe plus Wade equals dynasty, throw in Bosh who at worse is a equal player to Pau and you have at least a three peat.

 

[Newzz]

Gasol is better than Wade from 2012 on.

If that was facts LBJ wouldn't shyt on Kobe in every clutch situation possible (clutch shots in the playoffs, elimination games, game 7s, and finals)

Sad that Kobe has only lead the same amount of title teams as Bron in his career.

 

[Ben.]

But he was playing for 4 years next to Dwyane Wade and Wade led them in MANY playoff series'....so for you to say something like this, it reads as if you're blaming Wade for Bron's failures to win


You Lebron stans are something else. Without Wade...LeBron would still be a ring less "King". Remember, Wade has won a Championship without LeBron, LeBron hasn't shown he can win without Wade

I'm not Wade's my second fav player but to act like he wasn't constantly injured and going downhill after 2011 is a lie, Wade still had monster/great games here and there but there's no denying Bron's lack of help in 07, 14, 15.

 

[The Fire]

Kobe won 2 rings with Gasol. A player that is inferior to Wade and Bosh.

Just face the facts. Bron is a choker. And Kobe is not.

With inferior help Kobe won more titles.

gasol was a force for both of those titles and arguably better than bush
the gasol trade turned the lakers into contenders after half a decade of rebuilding