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a giant crack in the NATO alliance just jumped off .....


Merkel and Hollande fly to Moscow

Stefan Wagstyl in Berlin, Anne-Sylvaine Chassany in Paris and Kathrin Hille in Moscow

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Angela Merkel, Petro Poroshenko and Francois Hollande

German chancellor Angela Merkel and French President François Hollande will hold face-to-face talks with Russia’s Vladimir Putin in Moscow on Friday evening in a bold attempt to break the diplomatic deadlock over Ukraine.
A senior EU official suggested the initiative was prompted in part by concerns that momentum in Washington was shifting towards supplying defensive weapons such as anti-tank missiles to Ukraine — a move both Ms Merkel and Mr Hollande oppose.

The German and French leaders flew to Kiev on Thursday to discuss the new plan with Petro Poroshenko, Ukraine’s president, before heading to Russia. The talks came hours after Mr Poroshenko met John Kerry, the US secretary of state, in the Ukrainian capital.

Pavlo Klimkin, the Ukrainian foreign minister, said the leaders discussed “steps so that the Minsk agreement can start working,” a reference to the agreement signed last September to end the fighting that has effectively broken down.

Ms Merkel and Mr Hollande’s five-hour meeting with Mr Poroshenko ended late on Thursday night; they left the presidential office without commenting and then flew to Berlin.

The two leaders’ plan is understood to be based on the Minsk accord, including a ceasefire and steps to allow Ukraine to resecure its border with Russia. There would also be decentralisation of powers to rebel-held regions of Donetsk and Lugansk in eastern Ukraine, but the country’s territorial integrity would be respected.

Berlin hopes a ceasefire agreement could mark the start of a broader political process — as originally envisaged after the Minsk deal.

The new diplomatic push reflects growing transatlantic alarm that an upsurge in fighting between Russian-backed separatists and Ukrainian forces in the country’s east could take the conflict in a dangerous new direction.

Diplomatic talk in Paris and Berlin was that both capitals were deeply concerned that the recent “dramatic” worsening of fighting on the ground could further increase the threat to European security.

Ukraine’s economic woes also worsened on Thursday when its currency, the hryvnia, plunged 30 per cent to a record low against the dollar. The fall came after Ukraine’s central bank abandoned its attempts to keep the currency afloat.

The hryvnia held steady on Friday with a US dollar fetching 24.35 hryvnia at the start of the session.

http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/6a80c702-ad5d-11e4-a5c1-00144feab7de.html#axzz3QxNUl7U7


Merkel and Hollande’s surprise Moscow visit raises hopes of Ukraine deal
Summit announcement spawns suspicions that Putin is seeking to split Europe and America as US officials hint at military aid to Kiev


François Hollande and Angela Merkel in Paris in 2013. The leaders are heading to Kiev then Moscow for talks on the Ukraine crisis. Photograph: Imago / Barcroft Media
Shaun Walker in Kiev, Ian Traynor in Brussels, Dan Roberts in Washington and Alec Luhn in Moscow

Thursday 5 February 2015 18.58 EST
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/feb/05/hollande-merkel-kiev-ukraine-proposal-us




Ukraine crisis: Angela Merkel and Francois Hollande fly to Russia for peace talks - live
Leaders of Germany and France to meet Vladimir Putin in Moscow on Friday to discuss new Ukraine peace plan, as pro-Russian separatists agree brief humanitarian truce with government forces around battleground east Ukrainian town of Debaltseve. Follow the latest developments
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...-Francois-Hollande-to-fly-to-Russia-live.html




new ben fulford blog supports my post from last week....

http://hipknowsys.blogspot.com/2015/02/benjamin-fulford-february-9-2015.html

"The discovery that American State Department officials were supplying forged dollars to both sides of the battle in the Eastern Ukraine has already caused Germany and France to split with the regime in Washington D.C. German Chancellor Angela Merkel and French President Francois Hollande already met Russia’s Vladimir Putin last week without US approval and are planning on another meeting Wednesday. There is very little leaking in public about the talks but, according to Russian sources, France and Germany are seriously thinking of leaving NATO and creating alternative security arrangements with Russia."
 

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new ben fulford blog supports my post from last week....

http://hipknowsys.blogspot.com/2015/02/benjamin-fulford-february-9-2015.html

"The discovery that American State Department officials were supplying forged dollars to both sides of the battle in the Eastern Ukraine has already caused Germany and France to split with the regime in Washington D.C. German Chancellor Angela Merkel and French President Francois Hollande already met Russia’s Vladimir Putin last week without US approval and are planning on another meeting Wednesday. There is very little leaking in public about the talks but, according to Russian sources, France and Germany are seriously thinking of leaving NATO and creating alternative security arrangements with Russia."

You're an idiot.
 

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You're an idiot.

I would have said

  • 88m3, i don't agree with your post/s or political analysis in this thread
  • leave the global policy ideas to the experts
  • stay in the shallow area of the pool
  • you can't substantiate your viewpoint with known facts
  • the NATO alliance is too strong to disintegrate
not come off with an insulting immature personal attack.
 

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I would have said

  • 88m3, i don't agree with your post/s or political analysis in this thread
  • leave the global policy ideas to the experts
  • stay in the shallow area of the pool
  • you can't substantiate your viewpoint with known facts
  • the NATO alliance is too strong to disintegrate
not come off with an insulting immature personal attack.

propaganda is propaganda
 

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propaganda is propaganda

maps and alliances have changed for eons

as recently as the 20th century and thru 2 world wars Russia was an ally.

some new england history


Remington Arms Factory in Bridgeport Connecticut To Be Demolished
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The Remington Arms factory in Bridgeport, Connecticut is a spectacular 1.5 million-square-foot structure of 13 interconnected buildings stretching over 76 acres. Now its future is imperiled. Long a monument on the city’s East Side, it was originally built by the Remington Arms-Union Metallic Cartridge Company beginning in 1915 to fill an order for one million rifles and 100 million rounds of ammunition to supply czarist Russian armies. Later, the building turned out bayonets, Colt automatic pistols, Browning Machine Guns, and automatic rifles. In 1920, General Electric purchased the property, and produced thousands of small kitchen appliances in the plant, but GE slowly pulled manufacturing from the building, and closed it entirely in 2007.
http://www.everydaynodaysoff.com/20...y-in-bridgeport-connecticut-to-be-demolished/




GE plant demolition nears completion
http://www.ctpost.com/local/article/GE-plant-demolition-nears-completion-3661493.php
 

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Remington Arms Factory in Bridgeport Connecticut To Be Demolished
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they would have made great starter homes/condos for the working class.


What would France and Germany gain by leaving NATO? A wildcard neighbor that has attacked and occupied several countries, is un-democratic, poor human rights record, and has a terrible economy that is nearly nonexistent. The general public wouldn't stand for it.
 

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they would have made great starter homes/condos for the working class.


What would France and Germany gain by leaving NATO? A wildcard neighbor that has attacked and occupied several countries, is un-democratic, poor human rights record, and has a terrible economy that is nearly nonexistent. The general public wouldn't stand for it.

they are trying to avoid another war. speaking of economies, i see you didn't read the ben fulford blog entry for today that i linked.
 

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they are trying to avoid another war. speaking of economies, i see you didn't read the ben fulford blog entry for today that i linked.

appeasement never works. that blog is completely bogus, nothing is sourced, everyone is unnamed. please find me a reliable source for a US government xyz arrested in Germany with billions of forged dollars.


Russia claimed to be building a base in Cyprus recently. Do you think that's true too?
:mjlol:


No offense man but you should lay off the conspiracy blogs and look into finding someone to talk to.
 

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appeasement never works. that blog is completely bogus. please find me a reliable source for a US government xyz arrested in Germany with billions of forged dollars.

:mjlol:


As always, should you or any of your IM force be caught or killed, the Secretary will disavow any knowledge of your actions. Good luck, Jim

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current events to back up my burn notice viewpoint. stuff really jumps off out there in the real world

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Gross
Alan Phillip Gross (born May 2, 1949)[5] is a United States government contractor employed by U.S. Agency for International Development and a former international criminal caught subverting Cuban society allegedly as an American intelligence operative.

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Alan Gross talking on the phone with his President Barack Obama, 2014
 
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