Q Tip says Saigon is Top 5 Alive

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Better than jada's last defjam album,...fukk no!
Lyrically, that is the most well put together mainstream technical submission.
with a course and the lesson in the skill of cadence album.

Saigon does not do that,....


Art Barr



I usually enjoy your rants....But I kinda look at u different after u said Tical was no classic and only had 2 good songs then turned around and said Purple Haze was a classic.
 

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Naa......Sai hasn't played himself out on that show so far but Peter Gunz has.






Q Tip must have felt Saigon was better then those names









Yardfather 1

Yardfather 2: On The Go back

Warning Shots

DJ Drama & Saigon - Welcome to Saigon Mixtape

Return Of The Yardfather

All In A Days Work




Abandon Nation & Moral of The Story are also decent mixtapes

Maybe Q-Tip did, that's his opinion and that's cool, just disagree personally.
 

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I usually enjoy your rants....But I kinda look at u different after u said Tical was no classic and only had 2 good songs then turned around and said Purple Haze was a classic.


You are going to put the three run classic record of ticals.
Meaning:

Tical
Subcrazy
Bring tha pain

Versus

The output of cam from the nas diss after chwm.
All the way, to the tracklisting of both advance and retail.
Including all the b-sides,....

You would lose that argument...
Even, if I put in the you are all I need remix.
I can counter that with lord you know by jaheim.
to take up a good part of the comparable commercial records.

Also,...
Cam was a technical marvel versus meth in the styles era.
where meth came up flat from the variables of how tical was re-recorded.

Now, if we had both versions of tical to compare to both versions of ph.
Then, we would have a great classic bout of epic rants.
As, i am sure the quality of the lost tical.
Could trump the quality of both ph releases, from advance to retail.
Yet, since that does not exist...
I can not put tical over ph.
Not to mention, I know as a listen.
I listened to ph, way more than tical.
When tical came out in a time of the year.
When, it was kind of a reset and all the heavy hitters had already solidified their legacy.
With their classic projects at that time...
Only had to wait for the roots at that point.
Yet, the meth tape never knocked out the:

Organized
Biggie
Boogie monsters
common sense
Nas
Artifacts
Del
Casual
Souls
Tribe


Which were all out at that point.




Art Barr

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Naa......Sai hasn't played himself out on that show so far but Peter Gunz has.

he's actually done worse in shorter time. basically poking his chest out saying he got 2 kids w/I weeks of each other was one of the more embarrassing moments for black men during the new fall season. shyt oozed of niggignance
 

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i like sai and he has all the talent and skills to be a top mc, but his career hasn't taken off like i expected. i hate these money hungry label execs who dont know or care about the hip hop culture :snoop:
 

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So, percee p is not a legend?

You, can be a legend as an mc without a classic lp.


Art Barr

How? Unless the dude inspired the likes of someone like Redman or an LL Cool J, he can't be a legend. No way how. Jada can't even be compared to DOC.
 

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How? Unless the dude inspired the likes of someone like Redman or an LL Cool J, he can't be a legend. No way how. Jada can't even be compared to DOC.


So, before caz got in the studio, he was not a legend?


I am not sure if you been around real legends, fa real.
Yet, legends are made without abums, breh.

I woke up on the couch of a legend for years, before he had an album, breh.
I shared stages with legends before albums, breh.
That goes for percee to juice.




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You are going to put the three run classic record of ticals.
Meaning:

Tical
Subcrazy
Bring tha pain

Versus

The output of cam from the nas diss after chwm.
All the way, to the tracklisting of both advance and retail.
Including all the b-sides,....

You would lose that argument...
Even, if I put in the you are all I need remix.
I can counter that with lord you know by jaheim.
to take up a good part of the comparable commercial records.

Also,...
Cam was a technical marvel versus meth in the styles era.
where meth came up flat from the variables of how tical was re-recorded.

Now, if we had both versions of tical to compare to both versions of ph.
Then, we would have a great classic bout of epic rants.
As, i am sure the quality of the lost tical.
Could trump the quality of both ph releases, from advance to retail.
Yet, since that does not exist...
I can not put tical over ph.
Not to mention, I know as a listen.
I listened to ph, way more than tical.
When tical came out in a time of the year.
When, it was kind of a reset and all the heavy hitters had already solidified their legacy.
With their classic projects at that time...
Only had to wait for the roots at that point.
Yet, the meth tape never knocked out the:

Organized
Biggie
Boogie monsters
common sense
Nas
Artifacts
Del
Casual
Souls
Tribe


Which were all out at that point.




Art Barr

Art Barr


My bad...U must have thought I wanted to turn this into a Tical vs Purple Haze convo....

What I meant was you actually have some audacity to take away from Saigon who has an album with a song stressing to'do away with the drugs in the neighborhoods' and black on black violence to inject that Jadakiss has better product even tho his album is filled with drug dealing references and Black on black violence and U actualy justifying it by focusing on lyricism. You'll have to do better then lyricism to convince me that an album filled with songs promoting the destruction of the Black community circa 2009 - 2011 outdoes an album that stresses fixing up the community.


he's actually done worse in shorter time. basically poking his chest out saying he got 2 kids w/I weeks of each other was one of the more embarrassing moments for black men during the new fall season. shyt oozed of niggignance




Its funny you say that because no one ever says that about Bob Marley who was way worse. I guess according to you Bob Marley was an embarrassment as well.
 

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How? Unless the dude inspired the likes of someone like Redman or an LL Cool J, he can't be a legend. No way how. Jada can't even be compared to DOC.

Your wrong on this one bro. Some artists were legends in Hip Hop from what they did on the live performance level. Not everything is about recorded music. Even music wise though I think one can be a legend without a classic . It's true most legends got classic albums but not all.
 
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It's like a battle MC who beat EVERYONE, he or she would be a legend without an album. Or for example a Doug E Fresh.
 

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Moral of the Story
All in A Days Work
Yardfather vol 1
Abandoned Tracks
Warning Shots

:noah:

and this....

 

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Saigon, along with Lupe, came out during the one-hit wonder run. The Mid to late 00s was the darkest that Hip Hop has ever came to.
My 05-07 top 3 in the game in no order:

Saigon
Lupe
Budden

*Downloading tracks for people and randomly putting Sai and Joey tracks in the middle* :wow:

Sai was just a few years too early.
 

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I really do like Saigon, he's one of my favorite but he just came in wrong place at the wrong time. He keep dropping hot shyts and I can see why Q-Tip says it.

This song is just f*cking genius :wow:

 
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