Sorry I've been around people that know Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu to longWrong.
You should do low weight and low reps (def no more than 10 and preferably 5 or less) until you know what the hell you're doing.
Wrong. Deadlifting an empty bar is not the same from a bar path perspective. Trap Bar Deadlifts are not the same exercise: the loading/grip points are different, and even the stance at which you pull will be altered. Not saying it's not a valid exercise, just know it's not the same as a straight-bar pull.
@El_Mero_Mero Either start with 10 bumper plates or 25 pound bumper plates, whichever you have available. Adding plates to the bar changes your center of gravity (c.g.) both laterally and fore/aft.
Using hex plates (ones that have angles and aren't round) will probably screw you over until you're experienced enough to know how to roll.
We were pulling Saturday and the ladies pulled all hex plates (it was less than three on each side) but us dudes saw their setups and went like. We had them throw more bumpers before we went so that bytch could glide easier.
Question about barbell for Beginner Deadlifter
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Son Goku
Great Sage Equalling Heaven
When breh does a set of 20 and fukks his lumbar supercilious up, he's gonna take your post to a lawyer for that suit.
Really? Ten seems like alot to me.
When breh does a set of 20 and fukks his lumbar supercilious up, he's gonna take your post to a lawyer for that suit.
Prince.Skeletor
Don’t Be Like He-Man
Deadlifting is not a high rep exercise
Kyle C. Barker
Migos VERZUZ Mahalia Jackson
Do you have mirrors at home to watch your form?
If not then I think it'll be too your benefit to do it at the gym.
That's probably the one exercise I appreciated being coached on because hip hinges don't come as naturally as other movements
Son Goku
Great Sage Equalling Heaven
Really? Ten seems like alot to me.
That's the problem with answering questions noobs ask and not being specific.
10 reps on deads *is* a lot, but 10 push-ups is hoe status.
Not all reps are created equally.
I've done rep-out/AMRAP/Widowmakers for deads and I could almost feel the life being shaved off my clock, word to eating a glizzy.
Music Fiend
Superstar
Start with squats.
deadlifts are GOAT level but you really gotta focus on your form and not using your back to pull the weight from the floor. It should be all one swift movement thats fluid. Back and hammies getting a piece, legs doing the work.
i find ppl do better learning deads with dumbbells or kettlebells. Easier to transition from the side to pulling front the front once you mimic the feeling
deadlifts are GOAT level but you really gotta focus on your form and not using your back to pull the weight from the floor. It should be all one swift movement thats fluid. Back and hammies getting a piece, legs doing the work.
i find ppl do better learning deads with dumbbells or kettlebells. Easier to transition from the side to pulling front the front once you mimic the feeling
Son Goku
Great Sage Equalling Heaven
Agreed. Full-length mirrors are clutch for learning how to squat and deadlift by yourself. Not having them removes certain visual cues that can warn you that you're on the train to Snap City.
I'd be posting form checks either way (home gym or gym gym) until it is assumed you know what you're doing. The deadlift has a reputation for permanently fukking people all the way up even though it's the easiest barbell lift to bail out of (tied with rows).
Also, a gym would have more equipment for strengthening the muscles used in deadlifting: lat pulldown stations, leg curl machines, Roman chairs, hyperextension benches, etc.
Not necessarily a bad idea but none of those things are the same. If anything squatting will strengthen bro's muscles needed to dead.
A squat is a lower-body push and a deadlift is a hip-hinge/lower-body pull. On a deadlift you push the floor away with your feet as you bring the weight up. A squat is a controlled descent and climb out. A lot of muscles are used in both. Some folks are back and trap dominant deadlifters, some are hamstring dominant. Your back is used when pulling from the floor, but dude shouldn't be putting his back into it, if that makes any sense.
Your back doesn't work when you squat? Only somebody that's never squatted heavy would say so. Your quads don't put in work during deads? Almost all the same major muscle groups, just a different movement pattern. My dead always goes up even without pulling just by getting my squat stronger.
Kyle C. Barker
Migos VERZUZ Mahalia Jackson
Agreed. Full-length mirrors are clutch for learning how to squat and deadlift by yourself. Not having them removes certain visual cues that can warn you that you're on the train to Snap City.
I'd be posting form checks either way (home gym or gym gym) until it is assumed you know what you're doing. The deadlift has a reputation for permanently fukking people all the way up even though it's the easiest barbell lift to bail out of (tied with rows).
Also, a gym would have more equipment for strengthening the muscles used in deadlifting: lat pulldown stations, leg curl machines, Roman chairs, hyperextension benches, etc.
Not necessarily a bad idea but none of those things are the same. If anything squatting will strengthen bro's muscles needed to dead.
A squat is a lower-body push and a deadlift is a hip-hinge/lower-body pull. On a deadlift you push the floor away with your feet as you bring the weight up. A squat is a controlled descent and climb out. A lot of muscles are used in both. Some folks are back and trap dominant deadlifters, some are hamstring dominant. Your back is used when pulling from the floor, but dude shouldn't be putting his back into it, if that makes any sense.
Your back doesn't work when you squat? Only somebody that's never squatted heavy would say so. Your quads don't put in work during deads? Almost all the same major muscle groups, just a different movement pattern. My dead always goes up even without pulling just by getting my squat stronger.
OP, this dude knows his way around the gym and then some.
3rd Ward Swangin
Superstar
I don't know how strong you are so it's not for me to tell you how many reps to do. If you listen to your body you should know what your limitations are or at least have the sense to research themThat's the problem with answering questions noobs ask and not being specific.
10 reps on deads *is* a lot, but 10 push-ups is hoe status.
Not all reps are created equally.
I've done rep-out/AMRAP/Widowmakers for deads and I could almost feel the life being shaved off my clock, word to eating a glizzy.
Some say that a really effective technique is lifting just the bar for a few weeks to perfect the form. Once you do that they claim it's very easy to shoot up the weight.
But I'm not so convinced about that. I begun with a weight that was comfortable and easy to lift, and then gradually worked up. The bar I use only weighs 7 kilos, which is like less than 20 pounds I think, so I had to add some weight to that. It felt pointless just doing it with the bar.
I think that's better, the other way where you're just on the bar learning the form for a few weeks seems like a waste of time. You'll learn the form almost as well with a little bit of weight attached to the bar, plus also strengthen the back muscles.
So I'd go with B
But I'm not so convinced about that. I begun with a weight that was comfortable and easy to lift, and then gradually worked up. The bar I use only weighs 7 kilos, which is like less than 20 pounds I think, so I had to add some weight to that. It felt pointless just doing it with the bar.
I think that's better, the other way where you're just on the bar learning the form for a few weeks seems like a waste of time. You'll learn the form almost as well with a little bit of weight attached to the bar, plus also strengthen the back muscles.
So I'd go with B
Isnt that usually bench?Why are gym newbs obsessed with deadlifts
