Question: Do face to face promo confrontations really work?

[Kill Dat Noize]

i was watching this video when a few things occurred to me.

• all things considered, if i'm grading on a curve, and i'm going by modern standards... then this was a fantastic segment. far better than anything you'll see on raw today given the thin roster and depleted main event picture.

• i thought that they both masterfully towed the line between work and shoot. it is still a wrestling angle but it is tugging from real sentiment. you feel the heat between both guys.

so in essence this should have been a very effective segment.

but then it hit me. you wanna know what you also take away from something like this?

• these guys are both betas. yea yea they talk a lotta shyt and they say all the right things but if they're so tough then why they both still talkin shyt after 20 minutes? why hasn't anyone snuffed each other yet?

• the longer these guys talk, the more the heat gets spread thin. by the time it reaches their fourth or fifth rebuttal, it stops being a heated confrontation and morphs into a fukkin forum debate. and the conversation takes such a petty turn.

and then we wonder why the guys in this era can't get over like the guys in the past.

randy savage could lay into hogan for 7 minutes because hogan wasn't standing right next to him. it wasn't in front of a live crowd. it was intense, it was up close, and it was personal. and when he was done talkin, you believed that if hogan were to come within a few feet of him at that particular moment... that savage was going to murder him.

so it was easy to be buy into these guys as wrestlers. it was easy to buy into them as tough guys.





now ignoring the fact that both punk and jericho are glorified welterweights. ignoring the fact that jericho looks like a fukkin gap model and wears a fukkin jacket that lights up like a christmas tree... i can't help but think that these guys would all come off a lot gullier if they were awarded that same privilege.

there's just no way to look tough when the other guy is standing right in front of you... and you're still talking.

 

[Jackson LeRoy Briggs]

This dude always masks his attempts to shyt on wrestlers as debate topics

 

[Berniewood Hogan]

so it was easy to buy into these guys as wrestlers.

"Wrestling is what my dad did."

 

[Silkk]

Yes

 

[Alexander The Great]

terrible thread premise. your question should have been did THIS face to face confrontation work? I mean how long have you been watching wrestling

 

[WOAHMYGOODNESS]

Terrible thread but i di believe they should bring back more dudes standing in front of xameras cutting promos rather then the meh espn sportscenter style interviews they do

Bring bakc backdrops also

 

[Mook]

terrible thread premise. your question should have been did THIS face to face confrontation work? I mean how long have you been watching wrestling

Nah, fire thread. Magnum T.A wasn't having none of Flair's bullshyt every time they saw each other.

 

[R=G]

It works when it makes money..Jericho vs CM Punk didn't.

 

[Silkk]

It works when it makes money..Jericho vs CM Punk didn't.

Jericho has been shyt for a while, inversely Jericho vs Malenko/HBK pulled it off perfectly

 

[DaHNIC82]

i was watching this video when a few things occurred to me.

• all things considered, if i'm grading on a curve, and i'm going by modern standards... then this was a fantastic segment. far better than anything you'll see on raw today given the thin roster and depleted main event picture.

• i thought that they both masterfully towed the line between work and shoot. it is still a wrestling angle but it is tugging from real sentiment. you feel the heat between both guys.

so in essence this should have been a very effective segment.

but then it hit me. you wanna know what you also take away from something like this?

• these guys are both betas. yea yea they talk a lotta shyt and they say all the right things but if they're so tough then why they both still talkin shyt after 20 minutes? why hasn't anyone snuffed each other yet?

• the longer these guys talk, the more the heat gets spread thin. by the time it reaches their fourth or fifth rebuttal, it stops being a heated confrontation and morphs into a fukkin forum debate. and the conversation takes such a petty turn.

and then we wonder why the guys in this era can't get over like the guys in the past.

randy savage could lay into hogan for 7 minutes because hogan wasn't standing right next to him. it wasn't in front of a live crowd. it was intense, it was up close, and it was personal. and when he was done talkin, you believed that if hogan were to come within a few feet of him at that particular moment... that savage was going to murder him.

so it was easy to be buy into these guys as wrestlers. it was easy to buy into them as tough guys.





now ignoring the fact that both punk and jericho are glorified welterweights. ignoring the fact that jericho looks like a fukkin gap model and wears a fukkin jacket that lights up like a christmas tree... i can't help but think that these guys would all come off a lot gullier if they were awarded that same privilege.

there's just no way to look tough when the other guy is standing right in front of you... and you're still talking.

It only really work if the characters are interesting

 

[WOAHMYGOODNESS]

Jericho has been shyt for a while, inversely Jericho vs Malenko/HBK pulled it off perfectly

Hes gonna disagree because u mentioned hbk

 

[HYDRO]

stopped reading at betas

 

[R=G]

stopped reading at betas

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