Question for Atheists - Why don't you respect Jesus as a humanitarian?

[2CT]

Of course he existed. He just falls into the same category as Santa claus. A historical figure whose legend became greater than the person himself. Time and lack of historical sources blended the man and the myth to the point where almost all of it is heresy.

 

[Black Panther]

It's pretty damn obvious we talking about Jewish cosmic zombie Jesus and not schizophrenia suffering cult leader yeshua.

Anything can sound dumb when you use derisive terms like "cosmic zombie" or "schizophrenia suffering cult leader". Doesn't mean you should be taken seriously.

 

[Beck.er.]

of course he existed

you take a world history class in any curriculum and they're gonna teach you about him

The likely historical Jesus cannot be conflated with the Jesus Christ of Christianity.
The evidence for the biblical Christ, is the Bible.

 

[Black Panther]

I think he's referring to the fact that Santa Claus was based on a real 14th(?) century Catholic saint.

 

[the cac mamba]

so why don't you place the blame on the people responsible instead of the person who was preaching the exact opposite of that?

Jesus wasn't responsible for the death toll, the wickedness of mankind is to blame for that

because he perpetrated a falsehood :jaymad:

 

[Eddy Gordo]

Saint Nicholas was a real person breh. Santa claus is literally just a b*stardized version of his name.

 

[K.Dot]

Anything can sound dumb when you use derisive terms like "cosmic zombie" or "schizophrenia suffering cult leader". Doesn't mean you should be taken seriously.

Anything that defies logic should not be taking seriously. Anything regarding the "supernatural" and "magic" and "doing the impossible" should not be taking seriously.

you sound agitated

nope, it's just my posting style. Check the history, I always post like this, regardless of if I'm agitated or not

 

[Black Panther]

Anything that defies logic should not be taking seriously. Anything regarding the "supernatural" and "magic" and "doing the impossible" should not be taking seriously.

nope, it's just my posting style. Check the history, I always post like this, regardless of if I'm agitated or not

Some things defy logic until they actually ARE taken seriously, breh.

 

[K.Dot]

Some things defy logic until they actually ARE taken seriously, breh.

Examples that are even remotely close to the situation that we are discussing?

 

[Black Panther]

Examples that are even remotely close to the situation that we are discussing?

It defied logic for many years for many scientists that our universe had a definite beginning, until the Big Bang theory and the Borde-Guth-Vilenkin theory came along.

 

[2CT]

Saint Nicholas was a real person breh. Santa claus is literally just a b*stardized version of his name.

i fail to see how that's in the same category as Jesus of Nazareth who had devoted followers documenting his moves, you woulda been better off making a Mother Theresa comparison which would still prove my original point in the OP

 

[K.Dot]

It defied logic for many years for many scientists that our universe had a definite beginning, until the Big Bang theory and the Borde-Guth-Vilenkin theory came along.

Now give me an extensive scientific theory for Jesus being a super hero. We got extensive theories for things much more far-fetched so the scientific community should have no problem coming up with one for ol' boy.

 

[serial]

Nobody is gonna follow a man to the death like early Christians did if he did not exist.

Jesus real name was Yeshua...

And there is no descendants and gravesite for Homer or Alexander the Great...

If people found out how historians find out who was "real" and who "existed"...they would be shocked on how little evidence there is of the past...

The fact that we have to say Jesus real name was anything is the issue.

 

[Mensch Fontana]

OP as much as I respect superman for saving the world

 

[calixprynce]

The vast majority of scholars who study that period/early religion etc agree that Jesus Christ, the man, existed. I'm an atheist but I wouldn't argue that breh didn't exist. Did he do all the miracles and shyt? Nah prolly not, but as an actual human it's widely acknowledged that the man existed

I don't give a fukk about what some "scholars" say. Scholars say you a monkey too.
I need hard evidence, not no faith "just believe them" type shyt.