Question for yall cats who hate cops, but still call them when you need help

Big Boda

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You sound foolish.

The man sitting right next to you is far more likely to rob you and kill you before any officer does.

Give you a choice, live in a place with zero police presence verses one where there is, put you in a few neighborhoods to compare the two I bet you you'll sing another tune.


I am a young black man who lives amongst the NYPD.
So miss me with the evil cop talk cause I know it. But I also have common sense and reasoning to properly divide the evil from the good.
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American history shows black people have self policed more effectively during segregation with far less murders. The point has already been proven that we are better off left to our own devices than policed by cops who shoot first and ask questions later. Everyone isn't going to share the same assimilated law and order mindset as you. You sound foolish. There is no dividing evil from good when your only choices are the lesser of two evils.

Even the cops who you call good have to be abide by the blue line policy of not interfering with cops who are doing dirt to poor communities of color.
 
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I guess you got some good cops...that day.

Are most cops good cops.

No

like every other profession, there are good ones and bad ones. however, it seems to be more than a coincidence that folks who are all on that :ucku: the police seem to be up to some shady shenanigans more often than not.
 

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like every other profession, there are good ones and bad ones. however, it seems to be more than a coincidence that folks who are all on that :ucku: the police seem to be up to some shady shenanigans more often than not.
So most victims of police brutality and injustice probably deserved it right.

It's hard to explain stuff like this to someone from chicago. The government has all but stripped citizens of their rights to defend themselves while arming ignorant children to the teeth with firepower while and at the same time doing nothing to stop the violence while telling black people to fix their own neighborhoods. You look to police as your only savior from this madness so you probably don't mind when they comit acts of violence against black people and with your cosign along with the cosign from the elders they will see no issue carrying out injustice against black youth and other random.....isolated incidents you just shrug off as collateral damage
 

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Police have won dozens of lawsuits for not arriving fast enough to save people from being burglarized and assaulted. They have repeatedly said that they are not bodyguards for the public. This means that it is the individuals responsibility to protect themselves, their property and their family without relying solely on police assistance. There are plenty of cases where black people especially black males have called for police assistance and when the police arrive they treat the caller like the criminal.
 
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American history shows black people have self policed more effectively during segregation with far less murders. The point has already been proven that we are better off left to our own devices than policed by cops who shoot first and ask questions later. Everyone isn't going to share the same assimilated law and order mindset as you. You sound foolish. There is no dividing evil from good when your only choices are the lesser of two evils.

Even the cops who you call good have to be abide by the blue line policy of not interfering with cops who are doing dirt to poor communities of color.


What you're suggesting is a community oriented system of policing. Which I agree.

Being "left to your own devices" does nothing but plunge a community into chaos and he who holds the most criminal power ends up being the "police/authority" in that community.

But policing your own community by those who live and relate to the community is a realistic option than fukk the police.

Even in the unofficial versions like the Panthers etc, it remains that it's a system of policing. And properly developed that's the exact definition of law enforcement.

Crime will exist. Bottom line. Police are needed to put a level of pressure upon it. The problem is we have racist cacs policing urban blacks, which opens the door to abuse.

What we need is people of the community, who relate to the community, to police the community.


That's a realistic conversation than fukk all cops I hate all cops, we don't need cops
 
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What you're suggesting is a community oriented system of policing. Which I agree.

Being "left to your own devices" does nothing but plunge a community into chaos and he who holds the most criminal power ends up being the "police/authority" in that community.

But policing your own community by those who live and relate to the community is a realistic option than fukk the police.

Even in the unofficial versions like the Panthers etc, it remains that it's a system of policing. And properly developed that's the exact definition of law enforcement.

Crime will exist. Bottom line. Police are needed to put a level of pressure upon it. The problem is we have racist cacs policing urban blacks, which opens the door to abuse.

What we need is people of the community, who relate to the community, to police the community.


That's a realistic conversation than fukk all cops I hate all cops, we don't need cops

The wealthy black communities that sprang forth during segregation are a prime example of what happens when we are "left to our own devices" and don't have white supremacist officers breathing down our necks. Instead of a chaotic planet of the apes scenario like you suggest would happen, we had black wallstreet, rosewood and other prosperous communities before white POLICE and lynchmobs came to destroy them.

You are arguing semantics which is a dated troll tactic. America's current system of policing is showing itself to be organized brutality for some and community protection for others. The people in those pictures were not panthers those were Deacons For Defense. read up on it, kid.

You're also choosing the wrong context in which people say "fukk the police" they aren't saying fukk policing. they are saying "fukk these killers who get away with harming us for no reason other than our skin. "
 

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I absolutely loathe cops and have never called them for anything other an insurance requirement. I've been robbed, didn't call. I've been jumped, didn't call. I've been stabbed, didn't call. What I do is find the direct number to whatever Fire Dept is nearest me for EMS (especially because 911 can be slow as fukk) but I have never called nor will I for my own benefit (except insurance). I grew up in LA, NY, Atlanta and Memphis, I know how worthless and ballistically deserving they are of a hollowpoint. Anytime I see an officer gets offed, I think "He was dirty anyway." I didn't give a shyt about cops from my personal experience growing up, but I didn't wish death on them universally until what happened in 2007. So fukk'Em.
 
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The wealthy black communities that sprang forth during segregation are a prime example of what happens when we are "left to our own devices" and don't have white supremacist officers breathing down our necks. Instead of a chaotic planet of the apes scenario like you suggest would happen, we had black wallstreet, rosewood and other prosperous communities before white POLICE and lynchmobs came to destroy them.

You are arguing semantics which is a dated troll tactic. America's current system of policing is showing itself to be organized brutality for some and community protection for others. The people in those pictures were not panthers those were Deacons For Defense. read up on it, kid.

You're also choosing the wrong context in which people say "fukk the police" they aren't saying fukk policing. they are saying "fukk these killers who get away with harming us for no reason other than our skin. "

1. I never said they were Panthers.



Breh I'm not going to go back and forth with you, we're nearly saying the same thing but you're arguing semantics.

And to settle the semantics; you live in the United States. As long as you are here you are under United States law. Community policing like the Jews have here in NY is a supplement to the already existing police force. They operate under the laws of citizens arrest and work in conjunction with the NYPD.

Suggest realistic scenerios.

No government with an ounce of common sense would allow a community to have an armed force independent of existing law enforcement and not be parallel to the existing force. Not gunna happen. Governments call that domestic terrorism.

Further, any form of policing needs backing by a more powerful force.

History has proven that at times there rises an organized criminal who has the firepower and manpower to back down the local police departments we have today. how much worse can a local drug lord do to a community police force.

Finally, let's not act like an independent community police force would be immune to corruption, favoritism, and abuse of power:mjlol:, please don't.



All of what you're saying, sounds good on paper. But you must deal in reality.

Its laughable to think an independent police of themselves would be better and be more effective than a 'NYPD' that has black males from Brooklyn policing black neighborhoods in Brooklyn. That's a realistic scenerio that can actually happen that you should be asking for.

It's really hilarious to think some brehs with even less training than our current police, running around with shotguns can do anything to curb a drug lord who wants to violently take over the neighborhood and flood it with crack-cocaine.

Start to understand the level of criminal that exists past your petty ham-burglar then you'll begin to understand what I'm trying to teach you, kid.
 
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I said this same thing in that sacramento thread.Got negged by 6-8 people and 2 people said they've never needed a cop ever
 

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A lot of nikkaz in here lyin they ass off in here. Somebody breaks in your crib, you would be on that phone so gatdamn fast callin the po po's as u hid in the closet :pachaha:


nikkaz in here talkin about insurance :mjlol:
Right :laff:

What df insurance gotta do with shyt anyways lmao.
In my state if u get into a car accident, calling the police makes no difference in your case or not. If your house gets robbed, calling the police makes no difference in that too.
These nikkas just rats.
 
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