questlove shots at hov?

[The_King_of_Everything]

Questlove is overthinking this shyt and fails to realize that Hip Hop from its inception always has maintained as in hia words a hierarchy of HAVES and HAVE NOTS...

The Harlem urban disco scene ran by the likes of hip hop pipneers such as DJ Hollywod..Eddie Cheba and Dj Pete Jones and Lovebug starski were all about maintaining the status quo symbolized by bottles of Moet Champagne....Gator Shoes ....flashy silk suits and slacks and fly rentals

While the less privileged and younger B boys from the bronx such as Kool Herc..Flash...the Rock Steady Crew were stuck having to entertain themselves with the parks sipping on 40s and smoking dirt weed while spinning on the floor

so wtf is questlove talking about?!?!

He act as.if HIP HOP originated as a SOCIAL MOVEMENT for the underclass which is false

he refrences Lil Boosie counting money out on the pavement as such an obscene gesture...

when i recall BUSY BEE counting out a bundle of cash at a hotel room as if he.just hit a lick in the 1982 movieWILD STYLE ....

i also recall LL COOL J saying on ROCK THE BELLS....

"Some girls like me
and some girls don't
Cause i make a lot of MONEY
and thier boyfriends dont"!

So why is questllove acting like this is a new concept'?!

HipHop unfortunatly has ALWAYS been a.capitilist tool

and at its base level living in a.capitilist society has always been about pbtaining things from a.classist perspectivw

thats why his analogy of the ADIDAS SHOE being embraced by Run Dmc.as a sign of comnection between the artists and fans is bullshyt.

because even the Adidas shoe at that time WAS A STATUS SYMBOL to many POOR KIDS such as.myself growing up during the Golden Era of the 80s

Only cats that i knew that had the shell toe adidas at that time were the older cats who had jobs or the d boy crack dealers

old school group DIVINE SOUNDS said it best;

"50 Dollar sneakers and you got NO JOB
TELL ME HOW U DO IT WHEN TIMES ARE HARD?"

and thats feom thier hit track "WHAT PEOPLE DO FOR.MONEY!"

So questlove needs to wake up outta that psuedo hip hop purist.mindstate and.realize

HIP HOP has always been about money and status along with elements of social awareness and personal responsibility

its about balance..unfortinatly the scales have been tipped to the money side cause HIP HOP is now CORPORATE

And Questlove is part od that corporate problem too

because them NBC checks are capable of having him do some strange questionable things

One shot one kill GotdamnyamanTheHONORABLESKJ

 

[vaudevillevillain]

"You gotta believe I think like an artist but my bills through the roof, can't do numbers like The Roots"

 

[W.I.Z.E.]

He act as.if HIP HOP originated as a SOCIAL MOVEMENT for the underclass which is false

Here's the first point you made that I disputed.


"Along with the low expense and the demise of other forms of popular music, social and political events further accelerated the rise of hip hop."

origins of hip hop - Hip Hop Galaxy

From society’s periphery, a generation created a cultural medium, hip hop, that served as both an expression of and an alternative to urban woes plaguing their lives, namely underemployment, poverty, and racial discrimination.

by know means am I saying this was that it was ONLY a social movement. But deny the social movement aspect of Hip Hop is just false.

Rise Up Hip Hop Nation: From Deconstructing Racial Politics to Building Positive Solutions | Socialism and Democracy

Dude DID U EVEN READ.MY POSTS??

I never said it was STRICTLY MATERALISTIC

HipHop unfortunatly has ALWAYS been a.capitilist tool

FIrst you tried to dispute my place in hip hop culture by and age on some ole

HOW OLD ARE YOU???..........and WERE YOU PRESENT DURING THOSE VITAL PERIODS WE SPEAK OF?

so I shut that down real quick. Then you tried to validate your point with how you part of the culture as if I don't have my own story to tell. See, unlike prolly most people on this site, you picked the wrong person. I lived it, hence why I pointed you to what I wrote weeks ago about my own history in hip hop. You prolly read that like :cracklupe:



Funny thing is, I was saying that we agree on many points. From what you've written, we grew up around the same time, hung around the same hoods but yet, you're stuck on your point so much that you're not seeing our commonalities.

Truth be told, neither your nor I truly was there for the origins. We were born AFTER hip hop was created. So although we experienced it as it grew, let's not pretend like either of us was in a baby stroller in the park watching cats start this culture and we're now recounting our crystal clear recollection of these events.

 

[Mike Otherz]

reading these questloves essays for nymagazine, made me think about whether the question itself is the correct question to ask. did we decide that it was hip hops job to save black america? isnt that just another strain of "black on black crime" or it up to black people to save themselves? doesnt that let the structural racism we have to overcome off the hook? its like how when trayvon is klled, media start talking about black on black crime, to distract from white supremacy? isnt questloves question more why didnt the roots blow up till we hit jimmy fallon? people just need music to help em get thru their day. wanting that music to save black america is kind of ridicolous dont you think?

as great as PE and Nas did they save black america? they might inspire you or help you get through a cathartic moment, but even 100 PE's wasnt gonna save black america.