R.I.P. Prince Be Of PM Dawn

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I dont remember knowing one head who knew twenty other heads that bumped their music during those years. That said, you cant blame anyone for thinking of anything but that moment when the name PM Dawn is mentioned. It is what it is, especially if you're from that time frame. RIP to that man, but these things happen.


I knew plenty of people that liked them. but then again, they didn't just listen to rap.

I never really looked at them as a rap group. I always looked at them as r&b with heavy hip-hop influence. like bell biv devoe & pretty ricky.
 

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I knew plenty of people that liked them. but then again, they didn't just listen to rap.

I never really looked at them as a rap group. I always looked at them as r&b with heavy hip-hop influence. like bell biv devoe & pretty ricky.

Was gonna say earlier, like others mentioned they were ahead of their time but not just musically, but visually as well. Granted, to appear hard wasnt mandatory back then as you had humorous artists, you had afro centric artists, party artists, but PM Dawn was on some other sh!t. At that age I thought their imagery was disturbing with homosexual connotations. I couldnt even humanize them until seeing the Down With the King video.

Musically, like you said they werent really a rap group, but the lane they were paving was included spins on Yo Mtv and Rap City, and so for their video to play right after an artist more traditional, made them difficult to accept. Many of us were truly not ready to accept that kind of artistry at the time.

Edit post: I like how Quest put it, "we did Prince Be dirty."

 
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It's a sub genre called hip house..popular in the early 90s when hip hop was free and so diverse. it was common to have house remixes to regular tracks..


Yo..... I remember hearing this joint played at Palladium back in the day when I was heavy in the club scene back in NY... You right, hip house was the sure shot back then.
 

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Yo..... I remember hearing this joint played at Palladium back in the day when I was heavy in the club scene back in NY... You right, hip house was the sure shot back then.

There was a time when all sub genres of hip hop had their own lane, and were respected. From Hip house to horrorcore.
Now we are all supposed to get down to Future's type of sound and everything else ridiculed.
 

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Was gonna say earlier, like others mentioned they were ahead of their time but not just musically, but visually as well. Granted, to appear hard wasnt mandatory back then as you had humorous artists, you had afro centric artists, party artists, but PM Dawn was on some other sh!t. At that age I thought their imagery was disturbing with homosexual connotations. I couldnt even humanize them until seeing the Down With the King video.

Musically, like you said they werent really a rap group, but the lane they were paving was included spins on Yo Mtv and Rap City, and so for their video to play right after an artist more traditional, made them difficult to accept. Many of us were truly not ready to accept that kind of artistry at the time.

Edit post: I like how Quest put it, "we did Prince Be dirty."




:ehh:

Probably wanna of the few times I've mostly agreed with ?uest.


PM Dawn was ahead of its time. Came up during the zero tolerance era, so he wasn't going to be embraced like that.

He'd outsell Drake today.





There was a time when all sub genres of hip hop had their own lane, and were respected. From Hip house to horrorcore.
Now we are all supposed to get down to Future's type of sound and everything else ridiculed.

Ehhh... but it still had to have an edge to be respected and/or spearheaded by a respected rapper who was switching lanes.


PM Dawn was neither.

Folks weren't really respecting Kid n Play and Will Smith like that during that time, and those were legendary groups.

the difference is that there was a platform for them to be heard just as equally as a traditional boom bap rapper.
 
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Musically, like you said they werent really a rap group, but the lane they were paving was included spins on Yo Mtv and Rap City, and so for their video to play right after an artist more traditional, made them difficult to accept. Many of us were truly not ready to accept that kind of artistry at the time.


good point.

they should've stayed off of the rap video circuit.
 

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:ehh:

Probably wanna of the few times I've mostly agreed with ?uest.


PM Dawn was ahead of its time. Came up during the zero tolerance era, so he wasn't going to be embraced like that.

He'd outsell Drake today.







Ehhh... but it still had to have an edge to be respected and/or spearheaded by a respected rapper who was switching lanes.


PM Dawn was neither.

Folks weren't really respecting Kid n Play and Will Smith like that during that time, and those were legendary groups.

the difference is that there was a platform for them to be heard just as equally as a traditional boom bap rapper.

We were made to feel guilty for liking Pm Dawn music and imagery..
It's like how Redman made us feel about Mc Hammer, though Mc Hammer was overall the better artist and man in hindsight arguably.
 

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I'm with you on the first part... can't comment on the underlined because I don't know either of them as men.

Like I said, its arguable. Redman is only just a very good rapper, thats where it begins and ends. I'm also a fan of his so I'm looking at him objectively.
People say he's a ghost producer, but who knows.
Hammer is an all round entertainer, so he gets more points. As men, I know Hammer went all out and damn near broke trying to bring up his people. As for Red, who knows. Yes, Red is the better 'spitter', no doubt about that. What I have a problem with, is rappers saying PM Dawn etc are soft and selling out, but all those rappers who said that then have all sold out today. Its hypocrisy.
 
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