R.Truth got released??

[Shadow]

And still the only black NWA World Heavyweight Champion.

Anybody telling you Ron Killings doesn't have it is a damn liar.

Dude has had star power for over 20 years, plus charisma, mic skills and being solid in the ring.

Plenty of workers worse than him in these areas have been world champion in whatever company. There's no excuses beyond you as a booker seeing him in a certain role, and refusing to let him go past that role.

 

[Larry]

WWE about that bottom line these days. They don’t care about nothing but the financials


Realizing you’re just a spoke on a wheel at your company and can be swapped and replaced in a New York minute is a hard pill to swallow. I had to go through it multiple times

 

[Larry]

And still the only black NWA World Heavyweight Champion.

Anybody telling you Ron Killings doesn't have it is a damn liar.

Dude has had star power for over 20 years, plus charisma, mic skills and being solid in the ring.

Plenty of workers worse than him in these areas have been world champion in whatever company. There's no excuses beyond you as a booker seeing him in a certain role, and refusing to let him go past that role.

Lol I don’t look at Truth comedy stuff as a detriment

Finding something that sticks and connects with an audience is a good thing. Ron can do his truth character when he’s 60 and still pull in an audience without doing so much as an arm drag. That’s motion lol

 

[Shadow]

I still don't think people recognize how important it was for TNA to book him to win the NWA World Heavyweight title considering the history of the business and the title. They made that decision and nobody has before (Bobo Brazil's title reign wasn't recognized) and nobody has since.

They purposely decided to make history and book him to win the title twice. This is big, and it's important, but people don't recognize stuff until a person is dead and gone.

No other black man has done it. Ron Killings is a legend, even if the NWA World title isn't seen as important these days. He's done something that should be recognized and TNA should be applauded for having the bravery and foresight in Ron to even book the title change in the first place.

Because WWE purposely didn't bring this up about him it's been seen as nothing for years, but it's not nothing, it's an accomplishment. However, it starts to look funny when you purposely book a man like that into a comedy role for years. You decide purposely not to inform the audience how important that title is and how significant the accomplishment is.

Notice they mention the title when bringing up Ric Flair, Dusty Rhodes, and others though. No matter how you feel about the NWA when it was under TNA the title runs are in the history books. You can't erase the accomplishment.

 

[Shadow]

Lol I don’t look at Truth comedy stuff as a detriment

Finding something that sticks and connects with an audience is a good thing. Ron can do his truth character when he’s 60 and still pull in an audience without doing so much as an arm drag. That’s motion lol

I agree he's versatile. However, the majority have only seen him do the comedy over everything else.

 

[Larry]

I agree his versatile. However, the majority have only seen him do the comedy over everything else.

That’s true, and he was capable of a lot more too

I just don’t think we should look at his beloved goofy character like some grave suppression or something. It’s damn near disrespectful to him as a performer lol

I’d actually argue what he achieved with wrestling is damn near the blueprint of success. He’ll have packed out booths from now until eternity and will forever be able to make money, and didn’t have to put his body through hell to do it. I’d rather have his career than someone like Dolph Ziggler’s who won all the things but never connected the way Truth did


A guy like Dolph has to perform at a high level for anyone to care. Truth can go out there and say “my bad” and have an entire audience of 20k in his palm just like that lol

 

[Silkk]

That’s true, and he was capable of a lot more too

I just don’t think we should look at his beloved goofy character like some grave suppression or something. It’s damn near disrespectful to him as a performer lol

I’d actually argue what he achieved with wrestling is damn near the blueprint of success. He’ll have packed out booths from now until eternity and will forever be able to make money, and didn’t have to put his body through hell to do it. I’d rather have his career than someone like Dolph Ziggler’s who won all the things but never connected the way Truth did


A guy like Dolph has to perform at a high level for anyone to care. Truth can go out there and say “my bad” and have an entire audience of 20k in his palm just like that lol

I love them both as wrestlers/entertainers and don’t think this is a good comparison.

This would be the same as trying to compare Truth to Foley or Jeff Hardy.

Dolph Ziggler was WHITE HOT multiple times in WWE and they just dropped the ball.

 

[ClutchVon]

This is the same dude who released Bray and suspended Titus for touching him. Dummy acts like Vince never released anybody before

Also released 30+ people at the height of the pandemic

 

[Rell84shots]

How the fucck is Titus still employed?

Because he's a great ambassador, fukk kinda question is this?

 

[Silkk]

Because he's a great ambassador, fukk kinda question is this?

Because it's a wrestling company and he doesn't wrestle

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

It wasn't about cost saving and they know it. I can't stand the dumbass excuses anymore because there's no excuse. These lames are so desperate to defend everything this new regime does, that they overlook simple facts in the process. The bottom line is that TKO is greedy and HHH doesn't know how to properly book a legit wrestling show. If things continue down this path then one day Tony Khan might be producing a rise & fall of the WWE documentary.

The "cost cutting" narrative for R-Truth never made sense. It doesn't make any type of sense.

 

[Larry]

I love them both as wrestlers/entertainers and don’t think this is a good comparison.

This would be the same as trying to compare Truth to Foley or Jeff Hardy.

Dolph Ziggler was WHITE HOT multiple times in WWE and they just dropped the ball.

That’s kinda my point though. Ziggler’s white hotness was reliant on what he we doing as a performer. When his pushed stopped it got quiet for him


Truth can lose forever, not get a single push, and STILL be one of the most over acts on any show he’s apart of because the connection he has with the paying audience is that strong lol


When you have an act that’s over you’re set lol. It’s why I always say boogeyman the ultimate hustler lol.. he flipped like 2 years of employment into a lifetime of revenue just off his act connecting

 

[Silkk]

That’s kinda my point though. Ziggler’s white hotness was reliant on what he we doing as a performer. When his pushed stopped it got quiet for him


Truth can lose forever, not get a single push, and STILL be one of the most over acts on any show he’s apart of because the connection he has with the paying audience is that strong lol


When you have an act that’s over you’re set lol. It’s what I always say boogeyman the ultimate hustler lol.. he flopped like 2 years of employment into a lifetime of revenue just off his act connecting

Gotcha. Yeah R-Truth is one of those rare cases where wins & losses don’t really effect his popularity because of how charismatic and funny he is.