Race Realist - Jared Taylor Discussing Racial Separatism w/ Black Audience: Coli What Are Your Thoughts?

[Uachet]

Yeah, I am not wasting my time watching that or listening to the commentary of it. I have lived it already, and know how they roll. I know how they try to dress up their actions as something positive, when in fact what they are doing is absolutely evil. I will leave those sort of videos for you young ones to consume to teach you of how the "devils" think.

 

[Chip Skylark]

Anybody who straight posts white degenerate babble should be banned!

 

[bnew]

WS has some kind of hold on non-whites.....they continually listen to these demons like have anything of substance to say about anything. Two fukking mins in and this cac has been lying non-stop. They'll tell you in your face what they're about and yet s will go on like "How can I use their hatred of me to an advantage." We are watching the death throes of ws and y'all want to work with them? The biggest threat to these ppls existence is that their women don't want to fukk them.

You can't nikka. They're first and last goal is to subjugate people with melanin. In what world do thriving animals negotiate with starving scavengers?

Truth is nothing is stopping them from moving away and not dealing with whoever.. but then would they have to blame for problems of their own making? They want others around but only if it’s on their own terms and if they can take credit for what others do or fixing “them”.. you’re dealing with a collective race of narcissists that rather overtly lie to themselves than ever admit they have always been the problem

 

[invalid]

white people of his ilk have demonstrated that they only view Black people in terms of labor and resources to exploit for their benefit.

i view this as the reality of whiteness in 2025. so it hints at an enduring permanence that will not change.

so if we were to map out this idea of race as permanence against black thought it would look something like this:

i'm specifically looking at race within this construct:

1. frame
2. locus
3. permanence
4. possibility of change
5. teleology

jared taylor

1. frame: race realism
2. locus: race is biological
3. permanence: absolute
4. possibility of change: none
5. teleology: preservation of hierarchy

frank b. wilderson

1. frame: afropessimism
2. locus: race is ontological
3. permanence: absolute
4. possibility of change: none and/or only at world's end
5. teleology: abolition of existing order

marcus garvey

1. frame: nationalist/providential
2. locus: race is political/spiritual
3. permanence: semi-permanent
4. possibility of change: through self-determination
5. teleology: nationhood and dignity

neeley fuller/frances cress welsing

1. frame: genetic/psychological/systemic
2. locus: behavioral/psychogenic
3. permanence: semi-permanent
4. possibility of change: through code change + therapy
5. teleology: conscious agency

booker t. washington

1. frame: socio-economic pragmatism
2. locus: material condition
3. permanence: temporary
4. possibility of change: through industry and virtue
5. teleology: economic agency

w.e.b. dubois

1. frame: pycho-social-historical
2. locus: double consciousness/color line
3. permanence: durable but historical
4. possibility of change: through knowledge, struggle, art, and solidarity
5. teleology: universal humanism enriched by difference

cheikh anta diop

1. frame: ecological
2. locus: civilizational
3. permanence: contingent
4. possibility of change: through intercultural balance
5. teleology: historical agency

noi (early) malcolm x

1. frame: theological
2. locus: moral theology
3. permanence: conditional
4. possibility of change: through sovereignty + divine justice
5. teleology: moral agency

frederick douglas + martin luther king jr.

1. frame: moral humanism
2. locus: ethical + spiritual
3. permanence: transient illusion
4. possibility of change: through love + law
5. teleology: moral agency

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all acknowledge a "race realism" but the locuses are different.

locus - thinker
biological - taylor
ontological - wilderson
political/providential - garvey
systemic/psychological - neeley, welsing
socio-economic - washington
psycho-social (consciousness) - dubois
cultural/ecological - diop
theological/moral - douglass, king, noi

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so if there is an acknowledgment of race realism (although within the paradigm of black thought not taylor's) how would they all view taylor's prescriptive "separation" as solution?

thinker - view - reason
wilderson - irrelevant/meaningless - anti-blackness transcends geography/no refuge

garvey - endorse - separation valid for black sovereign empowerment, not for white retreat

neeley, welsing - partial diagnostic agreement but rejects prescription - separation reflects white fear neurosis, not cure

washington - partially endorse - cooperation and uplift - not fixed division or fixed inequality

dubois - reject - race is historical and mental, not fixed by borders

diop - reject - balance between civilizations, not physical partition

noi (early) malcolm x - accept reparative separation - justified if reparation and sovereignty accompany it

douglas/king - reject - morally wrong, unity and justice are divine ends

so it would seem garvey, washington, noi (early) malcolm x would have no problem endorsing taylor's prescription. and most likely the likes of tariq nasheed and jason black (which is why this is on his channel).

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with all this said, where are we going as a people? what is the end?

a. separation with independence and autonomy
b. integration with independence
c. total assimilation
d. blow the whole system up

if there is a degree of permanence, do we work within the system?

if it's not, what is the solution considering the various loci of race realism?

is the problem too complex for solutions, so do we add inertia to the demise of the current system?

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what good is separation without tackling capitalism? what good is tackling capitalism without tackling the fear of white genetic annihilation? as @HarlemHottie suggested, they will just invent a new system. what good is any of this if anti-blackness is global and ontological?

what are the solutions, how do we move forward?

apologies, this was a long post.

 

[Tair]

They don't believe in separation. They just want to separate us from them, but use us for their continual gain while we reap very little or close to nothing from our work.

White folk had every opportunity to separate, yet they didn't and they constantly force themselves into non-white spaces/area/nations, and they will continue to do that.

All of that segregation talk is dumb and not ever happening in a world as interconnected as this one.

 

[The Plug]

how would jason black, tariq nasheed, republik of new afrika, and garveyite thought think about this conclusion?

He's debated Tariq before, we had a thread about it and it wasn't Tariq's best moment but you can probably find what he thinks about this conclusion.

I'm also certain either Jason black or the black authority went to his house to interview him too.

 

[invalid]

@Tair see my post above yours.

 

[invalid]

He's debated Tariq before, we had a thread about it and it wasn't Tariq's best moment but you can probably find what he thinks about this conclusion.

I'm also certain either Jason black or the black authority went to his house to interview him too.

thanks. didn't know.
i see tariq kowtowed.
and some of his responses echoes others in this thread.

What I said was that tariq's aim appears not to "fight white supremacy" but use the appearance of combatting it for content. So, even while debating an open white supremacist...."white supremacists as the smartest people on earth " and the kicker at the end "white people would never exterminate Black people, because they need people around to mistreat"
and "what's the solution to race issues/white supremacy,tariq?"
"THERE IS NO SOLUTION !"

Clown shyt.

White supremacy/dominance is about control of resources and institutions. You gain access to resources and control your own institutions, you lessen the grip of outside dominance . Person who is not promoting that as a way to combat white supremacy, and throwing his hands up like" it's hopeless...WS is too dominant" is hustling people.

nets - how do we deal with the issue of capitalism as a tool of white supremacy or do you view it as such? is it helpful considering the grip it has on the current global social order to view it that way?

 

[Soldier]

They don't believe in separation. They just want to separate us from them, but use us for their continual gain while we reap very little or close to nothing from our work.

White folk had every opportunity to separate, yet they didn't and they constantly force themselves into non-white spaces/area/nations, and they will continue to do that.

All of that segregation talk is dumb and not ever happening in a world as interconnected as this one.

Their ideal desire when it comes to race relations between blacks and whites, :

social, genetic, residential, technological, physical, racial/ethnic, biological and sexual separation but not political, financial, cultural and economical segregation. They want to disfranchise us and dominate us politically, they want to exploit us financially and economically and they want to culturally appropriate from us. They want to keep away from us on a social and physical basis but otherwise they don’t want to Completely segregate from us because they need the parasitical exploitation of black folks to maintain their power and dominance.

When the wizard of Tuskegee, Booker T. Washington said during his 1895 speech in Atlanta.

“In all things purely social, we can be as separate as the five fingers, and yet one as the hand in all things essential to mutual progress”

These words explain exactly what Jared Taylor really wants for both races in America.

Despite Jim Crow laws already existing in the country by social custom and by law in the decades after the civil war, That Atlanta compromise speech that sanctioned segregation and the 1896 plessy versus Ferguson Supreme Court ruling decision officially inaugurated the Jim Crow separate but equal era that lasted until 1965.

Underneath his gentlemanly intellectual facade, even though he’s trying to come off as reasonable, empathetic and enlightened, Jared Taylor is a dishonest and reactionary racist demagogue who is just trying to bring back Jim Crow with a modern twist. In his ideal society, both races would remain socially, racially, sexually and physically segregated but would ‘’cooperate” with each other on cultural and economic matters to achieve “progress” for both races. I insist on Cultural matters Because the modern entertainment/sports/music industry, pop culture and true/original American culture ( traditions, customs, music, food, slang, etc) comes from black folks. It would be a one-sided cultural exchange in favour of the whites. Deep down white supremacists reluctantly realize and recognize this fact even though they would never admit it in public.

Nothing new under the sun. What’s old become new again. Trends die and resurrect later in different forms. Old method of racial exploitation and dominance under a new term. That’s why you don’t need to listen to him and debate with him. Dialogue with him is impossible and useless because any intelligent black man or woman who is racially aware, culturally/socially conscious and with deep knowledge of history, psychology and sociology can see through him and know what he’s really up to. Read between the lines and you will easily figure out his true intentions and desires.

2 Corinthians 11:14​

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King James Version​

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14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.​

I’m not fooled by him.
@invalid

 

[cole phelps]

They don't believe in separation. They just want to separate us from them, but use us for their continual gain while we reap very little or close to nothing from our work.

White folk had every opportunity to separate, yet they didn't and they constantly force themselves into non-white spaces/area/nations, and they will continue to do that.

All of that segregation talk is dumb and not ever happening in a world as interconnected as this one.

Yep cacs are truly a parasitic race they talk a good game about separation but when it actually happens they crash and burn without their non white labor/resources

 

[Scustin Bieburr]

Adopting his preferred framing "race realism" instead of describing him for what he is(a nazi) tells me everything I need to know about the OP and the intent behind this thread.

1 star

 

[get these nets]

nets - how do we deal with the issue of capitalism as a tool of white supremacy or do you view it as such? is it helpful considering the grip it has on the current global social order to view it that way?

I view it as a reality that we have to adapt to and navigate, as individuals, families, and as ethnic, racial, and national groups.

If people view it as a tool, it would behoove them to understand it, & learn how to use it to the benefit of them and their group.

 

[HarlemHottie]

Anybody who straight posts white degenerate babble should be banned!

Yeah, I am not wasting my time watching that or listening to the commentary of it. I have lived it already, and know how they roll. I know how they try to dress up their actions as something positive, when in fact what they are doing is absolutely evil. I will leave those sort of videos for you young ones to consume to teach you of how the "devils" think.

Ftr, the venue at which this interview was held was the after-screening discussion for Jason Black's 'Race War,' where he documents the continued effects of the white race's war against us. Jared Taylor was his example of the new, insidious, 'dark MAGA' style racism, questioned in depth for a black audience, so we'd understand what we were dealing with.

Without context it seems weird, but it was for a good cause which is why I participated in the crowd funding used only for advertisement of a film he made out of his own pocket. I 'put something on it' as I always do for good works. If yall don't know, Jason Black is the type to put up billboards on 125th st. I saw one for the film before this one, '7 am' iirc right around the same time the algo rec'd his channel.