Rakim, Kool G. Rap, Big Daddy Kane vs. Biggie, Jay-Z and Nas

[the rhyme king]

So what, I'm a microphone fiend, addicted soon as I sing
One of these four emcees so they don't have to scream
I couldn't wait to take the mic, blow into it to test
Then let my melody play, then the record suggest
That I'm dropping bombs, but I stay peace and calm
Any emcee that disagree with me, wave your arm
And I'll break, when I'm through breaking, I'll leave you broke
Drop the mic when I'm finished and watch it smoke
So stand back, you wanna rap, all of that can wait
I won't push, I won't beat around the bush
I wanna break upon those who are not supposed to
You might try but you can't get close to
Because I'm number one, competition is none
I'm measured with the heat that's made by sun
Whether playing ball or bobbing in the hall
Or just writing my name in graffiti on the wall
They shouldn't have told me you said you control me

 

[ManBearPig]

Nas

 

[ManBearPig]

question:

how are biggie, nas, and jay's music better overall.
when, they are nowhere near the original skill rubrick of g rap, kane, and rakim.
plus, came after g rap, ra, and kane.
already, etched out the new school way of thought's mold artistically as emcee till the end of time.
on top of not having a solid enough discography, skillwise or culturally.
to match kane, g rap, and rakim.
even given kane's fall off, and the fact he came back.
plus, raps as good if not infinitely better than nas and jay right now.
plus, ra and g rap never fell off and have continued to showcase.
why argueably, they are in a three way conversation as the real goats.
with the real goat, krs.

plus, ra, g rap and kane would put out and have put out.
better recent projects, than nas and jayz have dropped, as well.
g rap has put out as high.
if not, higher quality material in the past fifteen years.
on all fronts better than nas and jay combined.
with no lackluster low skill based showings...

nas and jay have just for starters,....
one of the worst collabs of all time on mchg.
whereas g rap outside of busta....
has argueably been the most technically skill proficient emcee on features in the past fifteen years as well.




art barr

Nas, Biggie, and Hov raps are more appealing.

 

[UserNameless]

• Re-watch that video of DMX and Jay rapping with Jay in an Adrian Murrell jersey. Jay's rap was worse than Murrells career and he got bodied by the random security guard.

Excellent post all the way around. But this stood out... yeah, that security guard did body him...

Reminds me of how battle ready X is, too. Just saw some random vid someone posted captioned, "X: Got then, Got it Now."

He spit a recent battle freestyle that had me like ... Like, "This nicca X really do this shyt...for real."

 

[JustCKing]

your point is all based in fallacy.
just like you mentioning, I gave you power.
Just like you don't know anything attached to the record , I gave you power.
is indicative of you not knowing anything, in regards to emcee'n.
let alone this culture,...
stop fronting for the camera and letting another poster gas you up to get tabled't the fukk up.

you are a toy, breh.
you don't know shyt about emcee'n like that.
it is obvious from your posts and your responses.
you not fooling anyone who is a real bboy, and I am the realest bboy on earth.


Art Barr

You do realize your repeated insults say more about you than they do about me. If I, according to you know nothing, why are you wasting your time and energy with these long posts responding to me? As I recall, you quoted me first. Yet, according to you, I supposedly don't know anything.

Furthermore, if anyone's fronting for the camera, it's you. If anyone is letting other posters gas them up, it's you. You come off as an elitist who thinks his opinion is fact and dismiss anyone that disagrees as someone who lacks knowledge. I think you did a great job at describing yourself.

In terms of fallacy, all of your responses to mine are rooted in fallacy.

 

[Art Barr]

You do realize your repeated insults say more about you than they do about me. If I, according to you know nothing, why are you wasting your time and energy with these long posts responding to me? As I recall, you quoted me first. Yet, according to you, I supposedly don't know anything.

Furthermore, if anyone's fronting for the camera, it's you. If anyone is letting other posters gas them up, it's you. You come off as an elitist who thinks his opinion is fact and dismiss anyone that disagrees as someone who lacks knowledge. I think you did a great job at describing yourself.

In terms of fallacy, all of your responses to mine are rooted in fallacy.

the funniest thing is,....
I am actually the elite, from a cultural perspective.
while, you are a never was that never did shyt, and will never do shyt.
your posts in this thread.
after being confronted with the fact.
someone, can spot a bullshyt artist like you.
is clearly evident when your post all go the way of deflection and not one talk of the principles skills in sight.
now, please deflect your lack of knowledge on to me.
as, I have a whole actual draw based on tablin' fools.
who make the discussion about me and not about the culture.
you won't spike any ratings worth a damn for me.
yet, in my case.
I am always game for dispensing a tabling.
so, keep selling all those wolf tickets.
so, I can table you the fukk up, and turn all those wolf tickets into jibba jabba amoung a wreckage of tables.



Art Barr

 

[Art Barr]

You do realize your repeated insults say more about you than they do about me. If I, according to you know nothing, why are you wasting your time and energy with these long posts responding to me? As I recall, you quoted me first. Yet, according to you, I supposedly don't know anything.

Furthermore, if anyone's fronting for the camera, it's you. If anyone is letting other posters gas them up, it's you. You come off as an elitist who thinks his opinion is fact and dismiss anyone that disagrees as someone who lacks knowledge. I think you did a great job at describing yourself.

In terms of fallacy, all of your responses to mine are rooted in fallacy.

the funniest thing is,....
I am actually the elite, from a cultural perspective.
while, you are a never was that never did shyt, and will never do shyt.
your posts in this thread.
after being confronted with the fact.
someone, can spot a bullshyt artist like you.
is clearly evident when your post all go the way of deflection and not one talk of the principles skills in sight.
now, please deflect your lack of knowledge on to me.
as, I have a whole actual draw based on tablin' fools.
who make the discussion about me and not about the culture.
you won't spike any ratings worth a damn for me.
yet, in my case.
I am always game for dispensing a tabling.
so, keep selling all those wolf tickets.
so, I can table you the fukk up, and turn all those wolf tickets into jibba jabba amoung a wreckage of tables.



Art Barr

 

[Art Barr]

Nas, Biggie, and Hov raps are more appealing.

rap would never have been pioneered to day time radio.
if it was up to NAS, jay, and big to usher in day time radio airplay.
as all three had to sellout their entire culture.
plus, switch up their entire style to a way of thought all three never embraced originally.
so, how are NAS, jay, and big's rhymes more appealing.
when, they had to switch up, sellout, and align themselves completely with others to make an impact to sell.
as oppossed to Kane, who had already created daytime spins, as early as ain't no half stepping.
way before he soldout, with teddy Riley.
rakim, was on daytime radio being himself as early as his his first and second singles.
plus, with krs create the newschool way of thoughts definitive word of mouth draws as emcees.
g rap, without switching up.
was already the next highest draw in the juice crew.
plus, was the only eastcoast guy to dominate westcoast gangsta rap, as a skilled emcee.
in and own their own style of Sonics, from pooh.
who at the time, was one of the premiere west coast producers.
so, how are NAS, biggie, and jay more appealing when it took them longer in timeline form to get a record deal.
plus, had to continually sellout, past their original incarnation to the ultimate to draw.
if , big, NAS and jay had more appealing rhymes.
they would have never had to sellout, or go to the lengths they went to.
to become a pop culture draw.
while, alternatively Kane and rakim almost singlehandidly with krs and heavy d.
immediately, began taking hiphop out of the dark ages on their very first projects/singles.
in regards to g rap, if not for g rap being who he was.
NAS, jay, and big would have had no discernible direction.
as a draw welled in the street aesthetic.
where both coasts knew to check for street based content.
if not, for g rap making live and let die.
plus, out rapping every legendary westcoast gangsta rapper in their own element.
including Kane on one album, nobody would have known to give NAS, jay, big a chance as a street content based draw.



Art Barr

 

[Art Barr]

Nas, Biggie, and Hov raps are more appealing.

rap would never have been pioneered to day time radio.
if it was up to NAS, jay, and big to usher in day time radio airplay.
as all three had to sellout their entire culture.
plus, switch up their entire style to a way of thought all three never embraced originally.
so, how are NAS, jay, and big's rhymes more appealing.
when, they had to switch up, sellout, and align themselves completely with others to make an impact to sell.
as oppossed to Kane, who had already created daytime spins, as early as ain't no half stepping.
way before he soldout, with teddy Riley.
rakim, was on daytime radio being himself as early as his his first and second singles.
plus, with krs create the newschool way of thoughts definitive word of mouth draws as emcees.
g rap, without switching up.
was already the next highest draw in the juice crew.
plus, was the only eastcoast guy to dominate westcoast gangsta rap, as a skilled emcee.
in and own their own style of Sonics, from pooh.
who at the time, was one of the premiere west coast producers.
so, how are NAS, biggie, and jay more appealing when it took them longer in timeline form to get a record deal.
plus, had to continually sellout, past their original incarnation to the ultimate to draw.
if , big, NAS and jay had more appealing rhymes.
they would have never had to sellout, or go to the lengths they went to.
to become a pop culture draw.
while, alternatively Kane and rakim almost singlehandidly with krs and heavy d.
immediately, began taking hiphop out of the dark ages on their very first projects/singles.
in regards to g rap, if not for g rap being who he was.
NAS, jay, and big would have had no discernible direction.
as a draw welled in the street aesthetic.
where both coasts knew to check for street based content.
if not, for g rap making live and let die.
plus, out rapping every legendary westcoast gangsta rapper in their own element.
including Kane on one album, nobody would have known to give NAS, jay, big a chance as a street content based draw.



Art Barr

 

[JustCKing]

the funniest thing is,....
I am actually the elite, from a cultural perspective.
while, you are a never was that never did shyt, and will never do shyt.
your posts in this thread.
after being confronted with the fact.
someone, can spot a bullshyt artist like you.
is clearly evident when your post all go the way of deflection and not one talk of the principles skills in sight.
now, please deflect your lack of knowledge on to me.
as, I have a whole actual draw based on tablin' fools.
who make the discussion about me and not about the culture.
you won't spike any ratings worth a damn for me.
yet, in my case.
I am always game for dispensing a tabling.
so, keep selling all those wolf tickets.
so, I can table you the fukk up, and turn all those wolf tickets into jibba jabba amoung a wreckage of tables.



Art Barr

I didn't deflect. If anyone's been deflecting, it's you. You went from addressing my post about Nas, Jay and Biggie being better songwriters to talking about rhyme skills as if I discredited Ra, Kane, or G. Rap. Then you started babbling about knowledge. From there, you started with the insults.

We're on an Internet message board and you're going out of your way to show and prove something that nobody even asked for. You don't even know me and you're clearly taking this far more serious than it is. It's now to the point where you aren't even discussing the topic anymore. I'm just going to remove myself from this argument because now it's getting weird.