Rand Paul Dismisses Concerns About Income Inequality, Says Some People Just ‘Work Harder’

[DEAD7]

You people are fukking morons, none of the gpd damn bullshyt you fukking spew has any fukking basis on anything. No one tries your shyt cause its shyt. Meanwhile socialism has like 20 countries right now at the top.

 

[Billy Hoyle]

I'd argue that these things are overcome quicker in a free market or competitive(libertarian) market, but we have no real socialist model to compare it too.

I'd also argue that the wealth generated by capitalism puts us in a position to do more good, but there again, compared to what?

I think capitalism is a fantastic concept and it's not going anywhere.

I just believe that for sustainable capitalism to exist, there must be rules in place to keep a level playing field. A monopoly builds just as much complacency as socialism because the same "what's it matter if I give my all to this?" mindset exists when there's no chance to break into the industry.

I also think capitalism is a really shytty way to manage essentials like health care and things that cannot operate with bias, like justice. Libertarianism automatically slants in the favor of the people with the most resources, and that can't happen when it comes to things like public roads, the internet, and environmental policies that effect all of us.

 

[Billy Hoyle]

I disagree, at least philosophically, I only think any form of socialism or left anarchism is only possible in a post scarcity society. Which we are nearing if we aren't already there,

 

[DEAD7]

I think capitalism is a fantastic concept and it's not going anywhere.

I just believe that for sustainable capitalism to exist, there must be rules in place to keep a level playing field. A monopoly builds just as much complacency as socialism because the same "what's it matter if I give my all to this?" mindset exists when there's no chance to break into the industry.

I also think capitalism is a really shytty way to manage essentials like health care and things that cannot operate with bias, like justice. Libertarianism automatically slants in the favor of the people with the most resources, and that can't happen when it comes to things like public roads, the internet, and environmental policies that effect all of us.

To be fair its been corporatism/fascism/crony capitalism, that has managed these things and run them like shyt. "free market capitalism" just gets the blame.





"sustainable capitalism" is an interesting concept though and another discussion altogether...

 

[Billy Hoyle]

Capitalism can still exist in a society without scarcity, but the scarcity will exist as ideas, concepts, technologies, and services. The music in Kanye's head is scarce. The ideas Steinbeck used to create Grapes of Wrath are scarce. People will still need your computer skills in the future. If you make important contributions, you will still be compensated for them.

But hopefully one day things such as food, water, electricity, plumbing, internet etc. will not be capitalistic ventures.

 

[JahFocus CS]

You people are fukking morons, none of the gpd damn bullshyt you fukking spew has any fukking basis on anything. No one tries your shyt cause its shyt. Meanwhile socialism has like 20 countries right now at the top.

I agree with your characterization of their views (), but where are these places where the working class owns and operates the means of production (i.e., socialism)?

 

[Mook]

I agree with your characterization of their views (), but where are these places where the working class owns and operates the means of production (i.e., socialism)?

You fakkits know what I mean

lol @ thinking we just gonna live in a commune where everyone shares everything 50/50.

Wasnt the USA pretty much libertarian in the 1800s. They were the biggest piece of shyt country too

 

[DEAD7]

You fakkits know what I mean

lol @ thinking we just gonna live in a commune where everyone shares everything 50/50.

Wasnt the USA pretty much libertarian in the 1800s. They were the biggest piece of shyt country too

 

[CHL]

 

[Truth200]

The Forbes World's Billionaires list is the definitive list of the world's wealthiest people, profiling and ranking billionaires from 70 countries by their estimated net worth.

How could i forget to post the forbes top 100 billionaires list, these good people work so hard.

 

[CHL]

I disagree, at least philosophically, I only think any form of socialism or left anarchism is only possible in a post scarcity society. Which we are nearing if we aren't already there,

QFT

 

[duckbutta]

Most people are not even surprised any more when they hear about someone who came here from Korea or Vietnam with very little money, and very little knowledge of English, who nevertheless persevered and rose in American society. Nor are we surprised when their children excel in school and go on to professional careers.
Yet the 'economic mobility is dead' argument remains alive and well... go figure.

The problem is that these people play by such a hilariously different subset of rules that it is much easier for them to become "economically mobile"

The easiest way to get your foot in any professional or educational door is to allow yourself to be exploited...and nobody allows themselves to be exploited more than foreigners...

 

[ADevilYouKhow]

They use to tar and feather guys like Rand Paul

 

[DEAD7]

The problem is that these people play by such a hilariously different subset of rules that it is much easier for them to become "economically mobile"

The easiest way to get your foot in any professional or educational door is to allow yourself to be exploited...and nobody allows themselves to be exploited more than foreigners...

Cost: being exploited
Benefit: being successful

 

[duckbutta]

Cost: being exploited
Benefit: being successful

Except the vast majority or not successful...so?

Like in IT how the media tells you that foreign IT workers are so smart and so talented and work so hard and they get these jobs at all these high ranking companies and make a difference...

Where in real life the vast majority only ever get their foot in the door because they will work for well below what a sys admin, network admin, database admin, position requires and even by doing this the second whatever project they are working on is over they are shipped back to wherever they came from, because the entire point of said project was not to do it right, but to do it cheap with a work force that you can get rid of overnight if need be...