Rand Paul Is Not A Libertarian

[theworldismine13]

Tell me how poor people can magically gain capital over a time period that isn't decades-centuries.

i dont know how poor people do it, im just discussing black people, and what black people need to do is we will have to change our culture to be more capitalistic, and more academically oriented

Black businesses are competing against massive corporations. Tax cuts aren't automatically making them competitive when the corporations are getting the exact same tax cuts. All tax cuts do is take money out of the community. I'd love to believe in this fairy tale that tax cuts = job growth but time and time again it's been proven not to be true. They just take the money and put it in the bank.

i didn't say all that, you asked if tax cuts are good and i said yeah, but like claude anderson explained the main purpose of politics is to protect our economic interests

And on your last point, rivers and underground water reservoirs don't give a fukk about manmade property lines. Not to mention the air.

actually private property lines do give a fuk about rivers and undergrounds reservoirs

 

[Billy Hoyle]

i dont know how poor people do it, im just discussing black people, and what black people need to do is we will have to change our culture to be more capitalistic, and more academically oriented



i didn't say all that, you asked if tax cuts are good and i said yeah, but like claude anderson explained the main purpose of politics is to protect our economic interests



actually private property lines do give a fuk about rivers and undergrounds reservoirs

I'm all for funding education, which is a huge part of making black people more academically oriented. I don't see how that's gonna happen without taxes. I think the black culture is capitalistic. The problem is the lack of fukking capital to start the venture.

Private property lines can care about rivers all they want but the rivers aren't stopping because of some imaginary line we made up. There's a paper mill upstream from my father in law's house, you think the chemicals they dump in that river are just gonna stop when that part of the river becomes "his property?"

 

[theworldismine13]

I'm all for funding education, which is a huge part of making black people more academically oriented. I don't see how that's gonna happen without taxes. I think the black culture is capitalistic. The problem is the lack of fukking capital to start the venture.

Private property lines can care about rivers all they want but the rivers aren't stopping because of some imaginary line we made up. There's a paper mill upstream from my father in law's house, you think the chemicals they dump in that river are just gonna stop when that part of the river becomes "his property?"

im for funding education but im also for eliminating public schools and replacing them with charters and vouchers, giving black parents full choice as to what school their children go to is part of changing the culture

black people are not capitalistic at all, capitalism means banks, loans and credit, all of which we are lacking relatively speaking, we would own the stores in our own neighborhoods if we were a capitalistic people

if the pollution comes through the river from the factory then the paper mill has violated your property rights and the property rights of all those whose properties are polluted by the river, and they should be held liable in court for that, thats how strong property rights work

 

[Billy Hoyle]

im for funding education but i also for eliminating public schools and replacing them with charters and vouchers, giving black parents full choice as to what school their children go to is part of changing the culture

black people are not capitalistic at all, capitalism means banks, loans and credit, all of which we are lacking relatively speaking, we would own the stores in our own neighborhoods if we were a capitalistic people

if the pollution comes through the river from the factory then the paper mill has violated your property rights and the property rights of all those whose properties are polluted by the river, and they should be held liable in court for that, thats how strong property rights work

To the last point, strong property rights are big government. The opposite of libertarianism. Libertarianism is "you do you, i'll do me, if shyt overlaps then we'll figure it out then" which usually means rich people can do whatever the hell they want since they'll get a much better lawyer a poor person.

I don't know what to say about the stores re: Indian and other foreign people running gas stations. That shyt is weird as hell and I don't understand it at all.

Who is going to pay for a poor child to go to a better school unless they are incredibly bright? Charter schools are working because they're picking the cream of the crop. If charter schools were the norm there would be even worse segregation between down economic lines unless you're good at sports or smart as hell.

 

[theworldismine13]

To the last point, strong property rights are big government. The opposite of libertarianism. Libertarianism is "you do you, i'll do me, if shyt overlaps then we'll figure it out then" which usually means rich people can do whatever the hell they want since they'll get a much better lawyer a poor person.

so you're against strong property rights?

I don't know what to say about the stores re: Indian and other foreign people running gas stations. That shyt is weird as hell and I don't understand it at all.

well imo getting to the bottom of why we dont own the stores in our own neighborhood means you are getting to the bottom of the real problem

you, the democratic party and the bulk of black democratic party leaders dont have anything to say about it either and neither does hillary, so they arent addressing real issues

so i dont really think its either there or here if the democrats lose power

Who is going to pay for a poor child to go to a better school unless they are incredibly bright? Charter schools are working because they're picking the cream of the crop. If charter schools were the norm there would be even worse segregation between down economic lines unless you're good at sports or smart as hell.

thats just a myth that charter schools work because they take top students, if charter schools were the norm than black people could open up our own schools and put them in whatever schools a parent wants to, its neither here nor there whether the schools are segregated, what does that have to do with anything?[/QUOTE]

 

[ghostwriterx]

what is that article suppose to show? looks like business need to increase their wages to attract more legal employees, that article just proves why republicans are better when it comes to dealing with illegal immgration

Yes, I'm sure those factories are thrilled with recent events as their labor costs will now go up or they will go out of business.

im not sure why you are inserting the word "suddenly" but amnesty would allow an illegal alien to go to college and/or work their way up their same way anybody else does, what you will have is a flood of workers trying for new positions

You do realize there are thousands of undocumented immigrants currently enrolled in college right? I don't see how amnesty is going to increase that number. I'm guessing the most skilled and educated undocumented immigrants come from Europe/Canada etc., but somehow I don't think repubs are too worried about them.

 

[Berniewood Hogan]

There's a reason you chose to be a banker in the Oregon Trail instead of being a farmer.

THE BEST MOVE WAS TO BE A DOCTOR, BROTHER!

 

[theworldismine13]

Yes, I'm sure those factories are thrilled with recent events as their labor costs will now go up or they will go out of business.

shyt happens

You do realize there are thousands of undocumented immigrants currently enrolled in college right? I don't see how amnesty is going to increase that number. I'm guessing the most skilled and educated undocumented immigrants come from Europe/Canada etc., but somehow I don't think repubs are too worried about them.

yeah there are illegal immigrants in college, whats your point? if you give amnesty obviously more will apply, im not understanding what is so hard to understand about that, but i wouldn't belabor that point, i respect anybody that goes to college and that isnt the real issue as far as immigration is concerned

my main point is that the vast amount of workers that would go into the labor market, illegal people from europe and canada should be treated the same as anybody else and get deported

 

[Tha Sircus]

Which words?

The stuff about same sex Marriage, the defense spending and use of drones. those were all lies if you read the links

 

[88m3]

Horses mouth

Rand Paul: I'm just as much a "Reagan conservative" as a "libertarian"

 

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Horses mouth

Rand Paul: I'm just as much a "Reagan conservative" as a "libertarian"

And under Reagan black incarceration rates spiked...so if Paul considers himself a "Reagan Conservative", does he consider himself a "Reagan Conservative" on crime and punishment as well?

@theworldismine13



Think you might wanna give this guy the same trust and support as you would give any other candidate

 

[theworldismine13]

And under Reagan black incarceration rates spiked...so if Paul considers himself a "Reagan Conservative", does he consider himself a "Reagan Conservative" on crime and punishment as well?

@theworldismine13



Think you might wanna give this guy the same trust and support as you would give any other candidate

rand paul has gone further than hillary in discussing incarceration and the drug war, and it was hillary's husband that was part of creating the prison industrial complex

 

[ghostwriterx]

rand paul has gone further than hillary in discussing incarceration and the drug war, and it was hillary's husband that was part of creating the prison industrial complex

Prison Industrial Complex predates Clinton

 

[ghostwriterx]

A policy intended to improve the economy has the opposite effect. Your reaction is

shyt happens

Let's do it again on a larger scale.

yeah there are illegal immigrants in college, whats your point? if you give amnesty obviously more will apply, im not understanding what is so hard to understand about that, but i wouldn't belabor that point, i respect anybody that goes to college and that isnt the real issue as far as immigration is concerned

My point is I believe other factors are more of a deterrent to undocumented immigrants attending college than amnesty and if its not a "real issue" with immigration than why bring it up?

my main point is that the vast amount of workers that would go into the labor market, illegal people from europe and canada should be treated the same as anybody else and get deported

My point is those workers are already in the labor market and will remain there, unless we're talking mass deportation which nobody seems to be interested in.

 

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