Random NBA Observations 2015 - 2016

[Gravity]

Cleveland overpaid for everybody so it really don't matter. Lebron was looking short term, not long term. Wiggins is a long term project.

It does matter though because Love is the one that they overpaid the most. Lebron made a mistake. Wiggins doesn't need to be in his prime to be more of a contributor to ths team than Love. As of right now, Wiggins would be more of an asset to the Cavs coming off of the bench than Love.

 

[pete clemenza]

We might not can grab the 3rd seed from OKC. Doc is back at forcing Austin into the mix of things again

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Damn sure not $100 million dollar useful.

Kyrie is a stud he's just not there as a point guard or someone who can orchestrate on a championship level.

99.9% of PGs at 23 can't orchestrate an offense on a championship level, let alone a 23yo PG who's been surrounded by inept coaching and horrible talent for most of his career.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Born has looked great the last couple of games playing the 4 which only illustrates how stupid that trade for Love was. They don't need Love. In this small-ball league Lebron is probably better at the 4 which would allow Kyrie more freedom in the perimeter/wing and allow Bron to run point-pf similar to how Green does for the Warriors. The Cavs would be clearly a better team with Wiggins instead of Love.

It does matter though because Love is the one that they overpaid the most. Lebron made a mistake. Wiggins doesn't need to be in his prime to be more of a contributor to ths team than Love. As of right now, Wiggins would be more of an asset to the Cavs coming off of the bench than Love.

No they wouldn't, and I question as to if have you've actually watched either Wiggins or the Cavs play. LeBron needs spacing and shooters in order to be effective, and Wiggins needs the ball to be effective (more than Love does). You take Love off that team and there's only Kyrie and JR there to stretch the floor. It's half the reason they went out and signed Frye, not only to provide more spacing when Love is off the court, but in case of him getting injured. You replace Love with Wiggins (Frye signing aside) and there'd be nobody in the frontcourt who can shoot. You can't expect to be a contender in today's league without one frontcourt option who can shoot. That's not even getting into the fact that Wiggins would be getting less touches than Love is now, and he'd be near useless except for on the fastbreak and the odd occasion in the post.

 

[Gravity]

99.9% of PGs at 23 can't orchestrate an offense on a championship level, let alone a 23yo PG who's been surrounded by inept coaching and horrible talent for most of his career.

Ok and?

No they wouldn't, and I question as to if have you've actually watched either Wiggins or the Cavs play.

If only you realized that you fukk up the tone of whatever discussion you jump in with sassy comments like this.

LeBron needs spacing and shooters in order to be effective, and Wiggins needs the ball to be effective (more than Love does). You take Love off that team and there's only Kyrie and JR there to stretch the floor. It's half the reason they went out and signed Frye, not only to provide more spacing when Love is off the court, but in case of him getting injured. You replace Love with Wiggins (Frye signing aside) and there'd be nobody in the frontcourt who can shoot. You can't expect to be a contender in today's league without one frontcourt option who can shoot. That's not even getting into the fact that Wiggins would be getting less touches than Love is now, and he'd be near useless except for on the fastbreak and the odd occasion in the post.[/QUOTE]Looks as if you didn't even read what I said. I was talking about playing Lebron at the 4 and starting a small ball lineup bringing Wiggins in off of the bench. He's a rookie, you teach him how to play without the ball while letting him get shots up/touches on the second team. You start JR and Shump and rotate the bigs. The court would be plenty spread for Lebron who will have an even more of an advantage playing in a faster pace in a Draymond Green type position.

You need to stop pretending as if Love is some essential piece that the Cavs can't win without. Especially when they basically got to the came within 2 wins of winning a ring last year without him. He doesn't add anything to that team that can't be easily replaced.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Ok and?.

And it's silly for you to judge a 23yo PG who's had minimal guidance and poor support based on whether he can run an offense on a championship level or not.

Looks as if you didn't even read what I said. I was talking about playing Lebron at the 4 and starting a small ball lineup bringing Wiggins in off of the bench. He's a rookie, you teach him how to play without the ball while letting him get shots up/touches on the second team. You start JR and Shump and rotate the bigs. The court would be plenty spread for Lebron who will have an even more of an advantage playing in a faster pace in a Draymond Green type position.

Playing LeBron at the 4?

He's had enough wear and tear on his body to not go back there full-time - which he would need to d since they can't afford to put two bigs out there who can't shoot. There's no way LeBron would last an entire season, at this stage of his career playing a similar role to Draymond. Just think about all the shyt he would need to do on the defensive end when playing at the 4.

You need to stop pretending as if Love is some essential piece that the Cavs can't win without. Especially when they basically got to the came within 2 wins of winning a ring last year without him. He doesn't add anything to that team that can't be easily replaced.

What Love does on the team can be replaced, but Wiggins certainly isn't the player. It can only be done with a stretch 4.

 

[Gravity]

And it's silly for you to judge a 23yo PG who's had minimal guidance and poor support based on whether he can run an offense on a championship level or not.

I'm speaking about right now not the future. Kyrie isn't a championship level point guard right now. Whether he'll get there in the future remains to be seen. If the Cavs want to win a ring this year tho then Lebron will have to be the main playmaker/orchestrator of the offense.

Playing LeBron at the 4?

He's had enough wear and tear on his body to not go back there full-time - which he would need to d since they can't afford to put two bigs out there who can't shoot. There's no way LeBron would last an entire season, at this stage of his career playing a similar role to Draymond. Just think about all the shyt he would need to do on the defensive end when playing at the 4.

You typed all of these words and didn't say a gotdamn thing. Lebron couldn't play the 4 in today's NBA because it'll be too much wear and tear on his body? Who are all of these dominant post play 4s that are going to ou all of this wear and tear on his body? Lebron couldn't do what Draymond does on defense yet he's bigger stronger and more athletic?

What Love does on the team can be replaced, but Wiggins certainly isn't the player. It can only be done with a stretch 4.

What Love brings to the table really won't be missed and hasn't been missed when he's sat out. Wiggins on the team would've given the Cavs more money to play with this year, another dimension, and a permanent building block.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

You typed all of these words and didn't say a gotdamn thing. Lebron couldn't play the 4 in today's NBA because it'll be too much wear and tear on his body? Who are all of these dominant post play 4s that are going to ou all of this wear and tear on his body? Lebron couldn't do what Draymond does on defense yet he's bigger stronger and more athletic?

The lack of understanding is hilarious. If you seriously think LeBron can do what Draymond does on defense at this stage of his career, I think it's time for you to be watching more Warriors games. Stop thinking "wear and tear" only comes from guarding dominant post play - just because you don't think there isn't any dominant post play 4s in the league doesn't mean he wouldn't be needing to guard and exert energy in the post. Furthermore if he was playing the 4 he would need to be the most active player on defense as he'd need to help on PnRs, running 4s off the 3-pt line, providing help defense all over the court and generally banging bodies with bigs in the paint. LeBron doesn't want to do all that extra shyt with all his mileage, and you can't really blame him since he's trying to extend his career as much as he possibly can.

Half the reason he went back to Cleveland is because he didn't want to all that dirty shyt anymore.

What Love brings to the table really won't be missed and hasn't been missed when he's sat out. Wiggins on the team would've given the Cavs more money to play with this year, another dimension, and a permanent building block.

Oh yeah because they certainly looked good in the Finals last season when they didn't have a big to stretch the floor.

 

[tremonthustler1]

Born has looked great the last couple of games playing the 4 which only illustrates how stupid that trade for Love was. They don't need Love. In this small-ball league Lebron is probably better at the 4 which would allow Kyrie more freedom in the perimeter/wing and allow Bron to run point-pf similar to how Green does for the Warriors. The Cavs would be clearly a better team with Wiggins instead of Love.

It wouldn't make a difference. Can't stress this enough.

 

[Gravity]

The lack of understanding is hilarious. If you seriously think LeBron can do what Draymond does on defense at this stage of his career, I think it's time for you to be watching more Warriors games. Stop thinking "wear and tear" only comes from guarding dominant post play - just because you don't think there isn't any dominant post play 4s in the league doesn't mean he wouldn't be needing to guard and exert energy in the post. Furthermore if he was playing the 4 he would need to be the most active player on defense as he'd need to help on PnRs, running 4s off the 3-pt line, providing help defense all over the court and generally banging bodies with bigs in the paint. LeBron doesn't want to do all that extra shyt with all his mileage, and you can't really blame him since he's trying to extend his career as much as he possibly can.

Half the reason he went back to Cleveland is because he didn't want to all that dirty shyt anymore.

Again, a bunch of words not saying shyt. Small forward is probably the most stacked position in the league, yet Lebron would somehow have a harder time guarding 4s huh? You don't even think the dumb shyt that you say through. None of what you're saying makes sense no matter how many sassy comments you make. With Lebron at the 4 opposing teams wouldn't be so quick to put him in the pick n roll. You're actually trying to spin it like playing help defense is more grinding and taxing on one's body than playing one on one defense Bron would have it easier at the 4 in just about every way offense and defense.

yeah because they certainly looked good in the Finals last season when they didn't have a big to stretch the floor.

They were up 2-0 led most of the 3rd game and was a Lebron jumper at the end from going up 3-0 going 6-7 deep. If Lebron's jumper wasn't broken they would've won the series as they were. He completely controlled the tempo for the first 3 games from the post.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Absolutely clueless.

 

[Emoryal]

Again, a bunch of words not saying shyt. Small forward is probably the most stacked position in the league, yet Lebron would somehow have a harder time guarding 4s huh? You don't even think the dumb shyt that you say through. None of what you're saying makes sense no matter how many sassy comments you make. With Lebron at the 4 opposing teams wouldn't be so quick to put him in the pick n roll. You're actually trying to spin it like playing help defense is more grinding and taxing on one's body than playing one on one defense Bron would have it easier at the 4 in just about every way offense and defense.

They were up 2-0 led most of the 3rd game and was a Lebron jumper at the end from going up 3-0 going 6-7 deep. If Lebron's jumper wasn't broken they would've won the series as they were. He completely controlled the tempo for the first 3 games from the post.

PG is most stacked position. SF a close second though.

 

[Tunez]

This is real?

 

[Rich Spirit]

 

[Jaylen Tatum]

thunder 11 fg on 11 dimes