Rank young QBs in the league

[Professor Emeritus]

I'm pleasantly surprised, thought Mariota was gonna get more disrespect but he's probably about where he belongs.

I still argue he'd be up there with Mahomes/Wentz/Goff in the right situation though. If he hadn't had those injury issues and got the kind of personnel around him that Goff got, instead of useless RBs, an often deteriorating o-line, and only the occasional useful WR, he'd be considered a top-tier QB in the league.

Dak ain't good but he's better than his reputation on the coli. In terms of what he does for his team I think he'll end up a taller Russell Wilson. Just has to not say stupid stuff.

 

[Swagnificent]

@Swagnificent can you make a list? I’m interested in your opinion

1. Josh Dobbs
2. Josh Allen
3. Carson Wentz
4. Lamar Jackson
5 (tie). Patrick Mahomes
5 (tie). Deshaun Watson (if he can stay healthy)

The rest are irrelevant.

 

[Swagnificent]

I'm not ready to concede that Mahomes is better than Wentz

He's not. People are just prisoner of the moment. They can't remember past a few days ago. Carson Wentz is way better than Mahomes. Only Josh Allen and Josh Dobbs are more talented. And possibly Lamar Jackson.

 

[Swagnificent]

Rosen is going to be in the top 3 by the end of the season.

That boy is nice 6

No he isn't. He lacks the elite physical attributes required to be a great QB in situations outside the scheme. Give Rosen the weapons and scheme of the LA Rams and he's better than Jared Goff. But that ain't saying much. Goff is trash. However, with a team that lacks weapons and has a bad o-line, Rosen is nothing.

To me, the best QB are scheme independent. They can also carry a team with subpar skill position players and a bad offensive line. That is why I have guys like Dobbs, Allen, Wentz, and Lamar Jackson on top. Those guys have the elite physical tools to be great in any scheme and to also carry bad teams on their back.

 

[YOGEBEAR09]

No he isn't. He lacks the elite physical attributes required to be a great QB in situations outside the scheme. Give Rosen the weapons and scheme of the LA Rams and he's better than Jared Goff. But that ain't saying much. Goff is trash. However, with a team that lacks weapons and has a bad o-line, Rosen is nothing.

To me, the best QB are scheme independent. They can also carry a team with subpar skill position players and a bad offensive line. That is why I have guys like Dobbs, Allen, Wentz, and Lamar Jackson on top. Those guys have the elite physical tools to be great in any scheme and to also carry bad teams on their back.

Goff is trash but you keep bringing Josh Dobbs and Josh Allen dudes that's certified trash. Yea you gotta be retarded to the fullest degree

 

[Jparker]

1. Josh Dobbs
2. Josh Allen
3. Carson Wentz
4. Lamar Jackson
5 (tie). Patrick Mahomes
5 (tie). Deshaun Watson (if he can stay healthy)

The rest are irrelevant.

Never change swag

 

[GOAT]

He's not. People are just prisoner of the moment. They can't remember past a few days ago. Carson Wentz is way better than Mahomes. Only Josh Allen and Josh Dobbs are more talented. And possibly Lamar Jackson.

Come on bro. What Mahomes is doing is undeniable.

 

[Swagnificent]

Goff is trash but you keep bringing Josh Dobbs and Josh Allen dudes that's certified trash. Yea you gotta be retarded to the fullest degree

Goff is a product of McVay's system and the talent around him.

You could put 20 other QBs in his spot right now and they would have similar or better production.

I don't respect system QBs.

 

[Swagnificent]

Come on bro. What Mahomes is doing is undeniable.

His body is too sloppy and we all know Andy Reid is a beast early in the season with his schemes.

We're already seeing Mahomes coming back to earth the last 2 weeks.

Mahomes is good but not as great as the current hype.

 

[FabTrey]

Goff is a product of McVay's system and the talent around him.

You could put 20 other QBs in his spot right now and they would have similar or better production.

I don't respect system QBs.

system QB don't go #1 in the draft no matter how overrated he is




oh by the way you keep claiming brady is the system QB, and yes he is. he is the system.
only QB who consistently wins when he throws for more 50 passes. brady is 19-9 when throwing 50 or more passes.

rodgers had 4 games in his career with 50 or more passes.

manning is 4-13




The Patriots Are 19-9 When Tom Brady Throws 50+ Times

A few months ago on Reddit, I saw this remarkable stat: including the postseason, Tom Brady is 19-9 in games where he throws at least 50 passes.

How remarkable is that? All quarterbacks have a 0.230 winning percentage in games where they have thrown 50+ passes, which means you’d expect a quarterback with 28 such games to win 6.4 of them, not 19 of them. Drew Brees, Peyton Manning, Dan Marino, Brett Favre, Joe Montana, and Aaron Rodgers have won 19 games when throwing 50+ passes…. but have lost 54 times, a 0.260 winning percentage.

Brady’s success in these games is so remarkable that it might be too remarkable. What I mean by that is that if the average quarterback wins 23% of the time, and the greatest quarterbacks in the game win 26% of the time, seeing Brady win 68% of the time probably isn’t evidence that he’s the greatest quarterback ever — unless he’s about ten times better than every other great quarterback. I’ll let you speculate in the comments as to why the Patriots record is so incredible in these games. The table below shows the records of all quarterbacks in 50+ attempt games (minimum 4 such games), sorted by wins over expectation of a 0.230 winning percentage:

and this system has yet to be replicated

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

People are just prisoner of the moment. They can't remember past a few days ago.

You forgot to put up a mirror when making this post.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Goff is a product of McVay's system and the talent around him.

You could put 20 other QBs in his spot right now and they would have similar or better production.

I don't respect system QBs.

Is it Oochie Wally Wally?

8-17 62 yds 1 INT and it's the fourth quarter

@Swagnificent takes another huge L

2-2 as a starter.

Most wins and best win % of any rookie QB.

The game is about wins and losses.

Or is it One Mic?


p.s. Goff is now 5-0 to start the season.

 

[feelosofer]

Let's say 25 or younger.

1. Mahomes
2. Goff
3. Wentz
4. Watson
5. Mariota
6. Baker
7. Jameis
8. Dak
9. Trubisky
10. Rosen

Edit: Forgot Dak

From Best to Worst

1. Wentz
2. Mahomes
3. Goff
4. Watson
5. Trubisky
6. Baker
7. Dak
8. Rosen
9. Darnold
10. Mariota
11. Jameis

 

[TrebleMan]

I think Goff is the best right now. I can't ignore the consistency.

 

[King Crimson]

You not gonna disrespect young Rocky Dennis aka Sam Darnold.