Rapper Loon - "Who is Jesus Praying to?"

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The story only makes sense (lol@ religion making sense) in this particular instance if Jesus is not God tho.


If u are a christian who believes that Jesus was God himself then it does not make sense bro

...which he is not...which is also stated numerous times in The Bible.

If you are a Christian who believes that Jesus was God himself, then you have not read/researched The Bible.

...all the more reason you should do this for yourself.
 

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...which he is not...which is also stated numerous times in The Bible.

If you are a Christian who believes that Jesus was God himself, then you have not read/researched The Bible.

...all the more reason you should do this for yourself.

fuk what the bible says, I know what it says... I grew up on those fairy tales.


fact remains that millions of people pray to Jesus and believe he was God bro........


If everyone else felt the same way you did about Jesus they'd be muslims


:mindblown:
 

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Jesus, God and The Holy Ghost are all the same but at the same time different.

Look at it like Time there's past present and future you can rationalize all three without it being confusing that they are all still the same, Time.
 

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Apparently, you don't. lol



...and they're wrong; which they would see if they took a few minutes to read The Bible (as would you).

Why do u continuously imply that I haven't read the bible, that sh1t is literally everywhere and isn't some unique rare piece of literature that only a select few people have access to bro (I read all religious text for educational purposes and because I like sci fi, do you? Don't limit yourself to just one fairy tale book bro, explore them all)

:comeon:


again, fuk what the text says (you can take one line from any verse and literally get 100 different interpretations of what was said...and all of them will be claiming its the correct interpretation)


Every Christian I know and church I've been to refers to Jesus Christ as their LORD AND SAVIOR



"JESUS CHRIST IS MY PERSONAL LORD AND SAVIOR".... is what these n1ggas say.


Regardless of the text, you're in the minority compared to the rest of the bible thumpers b. You acknowledge this right?


:dwillhuh:
 

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Why do u continuously imply that I haven't read the bible, that sh1t is literally everywhere and isn't some unique rare piece of literature that only a select few people have access to bro (I read all religious text for educational purposes and because I like sci fi, do you? Don't limit yourself to just one fairy tale book bro, explore them all)

:comeon:


again, fuk what the text says (you can take one line from any verse and literally get 100 different interpretations of what was said...and all of them will be claiming its the correct interpretation)


Every Christian I know and church I've been to refers to Jesus Christ as their LORD AND SAVIOR



"JESUS CHRIST IS MY PERSONAL LORD AND SAVIOR".... is what these n1ggas say.


Regardless of the text, you're in the minority compared to the rest of the bible thumpers b. You acknowledge this right?


:dwillhuh:

If you've read The Bible like you say you have, you would have seen:

- the many times Jesus refers to "The Father" as being greater than he is
- Jesus being referred to as "The Firstborn" of all creation, whereas God was not "born"
- Jesus saying he always does "The Father's" will and he "does nothing of his own initiative".

Jesus is still a "lord" and "savior"...but those are relative terms.

There is no "regardless of the text" here, so you can get off that. Because, if you're a Christian, you're fidelity isn't to what other "Christians" say or think, you follow what Jesus said and think, which is in Scripture.
 
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Jehovah witnesses don't believe Jesus is God...Mesiahnic Jews don't believe Jesus is God...

Loon went from one stupidity to another...Islam is just as stupid as Christianity...

Muhammad already co-signed The Bible, and Muhammad co-signed the "virgin birth"...

Loon actually believes an illiterate man went to a cave in the mountain, and an angel of God whispered utter non-sense in his ears...

Today, we don't call people who make such claims prophets...We call them schizophrenics...
 

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If you've read The Bible like you say you have, you would have seen:

- the many times Jesus refers to "The Father" as being greater than he is
- Jesus being referred to as "The Firstborn" of all creation, whereas God was not "born"
- Jesus saying he always does "The Father's" will and he "does nothing of his own initiative".

Jesus is still a "lord" and "savior"...but those are relative terms.

There is no "regardless of the text" here, so you can get off that. Because, if you're a Christian, you're fidelity isn't to what other "Christians" say or think, you follow what Jesus said and think, which is in Scripture.

You're in the minority bro, that's the funny thing about religion for every verse saying one thing there's about a dozen saying the exact opposite, but whatever bro, I'm an atheist and don't really give a sh1t. I just find it all interesting......I'm not gonna sit and argue with someone because they prefer Spock over Captain Kirk, rather just sit back and enjoy the philosophy/history/story etc.

but the fact remains that pretty much all orthodox Christians believe he was God in human form, whether u like it or not


:manny:


Below is bunch of verses contradicting ur statement, that I put in spoilers because this entire mini debate is of little importance to me. I have no stake in the debate, the only flag I bear is the one that states we evolved and that religion is man made.

:shaq2:

Following are verses used to show that Jesus is God in flesh. The scriptures used here are from the New American Standard Bible.

John 1:1 - "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."

John 1:14 - "And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth."

John 5:18 - "For this cause therefore the Jews were seeking all the more to kill Him, because He not only was breaking the Sabbath, but also was calling God His own Father, making Himself equal with God."

John 8:24 - "I said therefore to you, that you shall die in your sins; for unless you believe that I am He, you shall die in your sins."

Note: In the Greek, "He" is not there.

John 8:58 - "Jesus said to them, 'Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was born, I am.'"

Exodus 3:14 - "And God said to Moses, 'I AM WHO I AM'; and He said, Thus you shall say to the sons of Israel, ‘I AM has sent me to you.’"

John 10:30-33 - "I and the Father are one." 31The Jews took up stones again to stone Him. 32Jesus answered them, "I showed you many good works from the Father; for which of them are you stoning Me?" 33The Jews answered Him, "For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy; and because You, being a man, make Yourself out to be God."

John 20:28 - "Thomas answered and said to Him, "My Lord and my God!"

Col. 2:9 - "For in Him all the fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form."

Phil. 2:5-8 - "Have this attitude in yourselves which was also in Christ Jesus, 6who, although He existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped, 7but emptied Himself, taking the form of a bond-servant, and being made in the likeness of men. 8And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross. 9Therefore also God highly exalted Him, and bestowed on Him the name which is above every name, 10that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those who are in heaven, and on earth, and under the earth, 11and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father."

Heb. 1:8 - "But of the Son He says, "Thy throne, O God, is forever and ever, and the righteous scepter is the scepter of His kingdom."

Quoted from Psalm 45:6, "Thy throne, O God, is forever and ever; a scepter of uprightness is the scepter of Thy kingdom."
 

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You're in the minority bro, that's the funny thing about religion for every verse saying one thing there's about a dozen saying the exact opposite, but whatever bro, I'm an atheist and don't really give a sh1t. I just find it all interesting......I'm not gonna sit and argue with someone because they prefer Spock over Captain Kirk, rather just sit back and enjoy the philosophy/history/story etc.

but the fact remains that pretty much all orthodox Christians believe he was God in human form, whether u like it or not

Again - being in the minority is irrelevant. Even the scriptures say that, as the book of Matthew 7:13, 14 says that those on the wrong road are many and those on the right road are few.

Below is bunch of verses contradicting ur statement, that I put in spoilers because this entire mini debate is of little importance to me. I have no stake in the debate, the only flag I bear is the one that states we evolved and religion is man made.

I'll get to these scriptures in a minute, but know this: this is not a "debate". This is me telling you what's in The Bible, and you being wrong. Now...

John 1:1 - "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."

The language this verse was written in didn't use articles, so the "a" was left out of many translations. This should read "...the Word was a God".

John 1:14 - "And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth."

Glory was "as of THE ONLY BEGOTTEN from the Father", not "The Glory of the Father" himself.

John 5:18 - "For this cause therefore the Jews were seeking all the more to kill Him, because He not only was breaking the Sabbath, but also was calling God His own Father, making Himself equal with God."

This was what The Religious leaders understanding was of the situation. Jesus himself was "calling God his own Father", so to them he was blaspheming. To "blaspheme" is to dishonor God by asserting you are equal to him. This is not saying that Jesus was alleging both those statements.

John 8:24 - "I said therefore to you, that you shall die in your sins; for unless you believe that I am He, you shall die in your sins."

Note: In the Greek, "He" is not there.

Again, in the Koine Greek, they did not use articles such as "he". You see how important that is? Also, not that the "Am" is not capitalized, so Jesus is not the "I Am" of The Scriptures.

John 8:58 - "Jesus said to them, 'Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was born, I am.'"

He was before Abraham. Again, not that the "Am" is not capitalized.

Exodus 3:14 - "And God said to Moses, 'I AM WHO I AM'; and He said, Thus you shall say to the sons of Israel, ‘I AM has sent me to you.’"

Now...we see the capital "Am" is God. Jesus was not the big "I Am". When Jesus said "I am", he was just comfirming his existence - just as anyone today would.

John 10:30-33 - "I and the Father are one." 31The Jews took up stones again to stone Him. 32Jesus answered them, "I showed you many good works from the Father; for which of them are you stoning Me?" 33The Jews answered Him, "For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy; and because You, being a man, make Yourself out to be God."

Jesus said this in the way that he and The Father were united in purpose. The Jews of that day didn't understand it, and apparently neither do you.

John 20:28 - "Thomas answered and said to Him, "My Lord and my God!"

Again, Jesus is still a "lord" and "god", but those are relative titles.

Col. 2:9 - "For in Him all the fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form."

Jesus was given this "fullness" by the Supreme Deity. How do we know this doesn't mean he is God? Because in the VERY NEXT VERSE Paul speaks of other humans being given this same "fullness"!

Phil. 2:5-8 - "Have this attitude in yourselves which was also in Christ Jesus, 6who, although He existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped, 7but emptied Himself, taking the form of a bond-servant, and being made in the likeness of men. 8And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross. 9Therefore also God highly exalted Him, and bestowed on Him the name which is above every name, 10that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those who are in heaven, and on earth, and under the earth, 11and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father."

Yeah, the bolded parts should tell you why this doesn't belong.




You need to study up.

Good night.


Heb. 1:8 - "But of the Son He says, "Thy throne, O God, is forever and ever, and the righteous scepter is the scepter of His kingdom."

Quoted from Psalm 45:6, "Thy throne, O God, is forever and ever; a scepter of uprightness is the scepter of Thy kingdom."[/QUOTE]
 

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