Rasheed Wallace on LeBron James playing in his era“I don’t think he would be as successful as he is"

[Dat916nigga]

didnt they blow up the team after that because they were too old?

Nah, Detroit made it to another ECF in 2008 but lost to Boston in 6

They started to blow up the team in 2009 when they traded Chauncey to Denver

 

[murksiderock]

Did you watch the videos

He didn't say Mike couldn't play in the 80s, Mike played in the 80s

He said the Bulls didn't have any competitive and was stacked team

he Predictable the NBA being an international league

and he said the Bulls had the two best American players, the Best player from Croatia, and the best Player from Austraila

the team was stacked

and Larry pointed out the expansion teams hurt the league by spreading out the talent so teams weren't as good,

the point was, Michael Jordan's championship era he had no competition

Michael Jordan was in his prime in the 80s, that's when he was air jordan, he would go off in games but the team would always lose early in the playoffs, he couldn't win shyt in his prime, becuase the 80s had a lot of good teams,but when they got old the league was different in the 90s

Jordan didn't have to face nowhere near the level of competition on his path to the rings, he beat the old ass lakers, that was the best team he beat in the finals

he was on by far the best team in the league, it wasn't even close and there was another team close that could compete, that was the point

I'm never one to say someone has no competition, because there are always competitors, there's always someone relatively "close" to the dominant team, the dominant teams just catch lucky bounces and breaks their way...

The Warriors dynasty didn't have zero competition. They had legimate challengers in San Antonio and Houston out west for most of that run, and Cleveland out east for at least the first two years, and Toronto that final year. They weren't unbeatable, as proven by two championship losses; its easy to look back and generalize them as having no real challengers but that isn't totally true...

I didn't see the Bulls dynasty but dynasties always have someone who challenges. All that said, the thing the '10s Dubs and '90s Bulls share in common..........

..........is relative to the rest of The League during the dynastic cycles, they were stacked. Period. Jordan apologists/Bron haters love talking about how many All-Stars he didn't play with relative to LeBron, but thats a see-thru false equivalency. Relative to that 90s period, Mike's Bulls were unquestionably and inarguably fukking loaded. Doesnt matter how you try to line it with what some guy or team I another era looked like, in his fukking championship era the Bulls were decked the fukk out compared to the competition...

Dudes who deflect from this are obviously agenda driven...

The only other GOAT candidate who won all his titles in an era of no parity where his team was head and shoulders superior to everyone else was Russell. That's not a normal or regular thing (winning all your rings on the clearly best team). And at least Russell won in a year he wasn't favored ('69). Mike never even made a Finals appearance in a season the Bulls weren't championship favorites...

Mike's competition during his chip runs was undoubtedly weaker than most other eras...

 

[J-MIL]

Yall gonna have to get over it. Most former players don’t like LeBron. Everyone could respect Jordan because he dropped 40 points in their face and won 6 rings…they couldn’t do anything to stop him. With LeBron he had to go join up with tons of players to start winning so a lot of guys are going to always feel like they could’ve did that too. With Jordan, it’s divine talent you have to respect. With LeBron, it’s nikka I could’ve did that. Y’all gonna have to get over it. Rasheed is like the 50th person that’s spoke out now.

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[JackRoss]

stop it, this ain't close to being true




it's nothing more than era bias ,nothing more, nothing less

 

[madness]

Yall gonna have to get over it. Most former players don’t like LeBron. Everyone could respect Jordan because he dropped 40 points in their face and won 6 rings…they couldn’t do anything to stop him. With LeBron he had to go join up with tons of players to start winning so a lot of guys are going to always feel like they could’ve did that too. With Jordan, it’s divine talent you have to respect. With LeBron, it’s nikka I could’ve did that. Y’all gonna have to get over it. Rasheed is like the 50th person that’s spoke out now.

Forget Sheed. Bron got respect from the only person who matters

 

[WMG the 2nd]

Yall gonna have to get over it. Most former players don’t like LeBron. Everyone could respect Jordan because he dropped 40 points in their face and won 6 rings…they couldn’t do anything to stop him. With LeBron he had to go join up with tons of players to start winning so a lot of guys are going to always feel like they could’ve did that too. With Jordan, it’s divine talent you have to respect. With LeBron, it’s nikka I could’ve did that. Y’all gonna have to get over it. Rasheed is like the 50th person that’s spoke out now.

Bron dropped 40 on sheed at 22 and I’m a Pistons fan

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

None of these reporters actually ask any relevant questions when these guys make a statement

are they just there to transcribe any batshyt that these guys utter

Why would they when the statements alone are enough to generate clicks and controversy?

 

[dh86]

Jordan was a rookie in 1984. Why would he be competing with Bird, Magic, Isiah and Moses? He was 21 years old He was ready at 28 in 1991 when he hit his prime. And he took over after that. Dummies don’t even realize that Isiah Thomas was born in 1961. His championship window is the same age range (1988-1990 which made him 27-29).

People hold the 2007 finals loss against Lebron everyday and he was 22 then. MJ didn’t add much to his game from 88 to 91, Scottie Pippen was the difference.

 

[havoc]

Did you watch the videos

He didn't say Mike couldn't play in the 80s, Mike played in the 80s

He said the Bulls didn't have any competitive and was stacked team

he Predictable the NBA being an international league

and he said the Bulls had the two best American players, the Best player from Croatia, and the best Player from Austraila

the team was stacked

and Larry pointed out the expansion teams hurt the league by spreading out the talent so teams weren't as good,

the point was, Michael Jordan's championship era he had no competition

Michael Jordan was in his prime in the 80s, that's when he was air jordan, he would go off in games but the team would always lose early in the playoffs, he couldn't win shyt in his prime, becuase the 80s had a lot of good teams,but when they got old the league was different in the 90s

Jordan didn't have to face nowhere near the level of competition on his path to the rings, he beat the old ass lakers, that was the best team he beat in the finals

he was on by far the best team in the league, it wasn't even close and there was another team close that could compete, that was the point

96-98 Bulls had the most athletic players in the 90s --Harper, Pippen, Jordan, Rodman, and Kukoc. Other NBA teams didnt have the depth of athleticism to keep up with the Bulls. The Bulls were head and above their competition. The Pacers came close but they didnt have enough offensive arsenal to close out the Bulls back in 98.

 

[Sadbrownsfan]

Man I keep forgetting Sheed came out in the early 80s. I swear I thought sheed and brons careers had heavy overlap.

 

[alpo]

Bron at 21 averaged 31 in an era with no spacing.

He would have dominated the weak ass 90s with illegal defense rules, expansion teams, and unathletic cacs

 

[Ozymandeas]

Bron dropped 40 on sheed at 22 and I’m a Pistons fan

Bron isn’t a trash player. He’s very good. He just wouldn’t be able to build super teams back then.

 

[ajnapoleon]

Bron isn’t a trash player. He’s very good. He just wouldn’t be able to build super teams back then.

The issue is this and we need to be real



Bron didn't want to sit in Cleveland and waste his career


Plain and simple


The cavs had no history of building any kind of team

That 4 years most teams had to get good draft picks from the 17 win team to somewhat good never existed


Bron was too good and the draft picks they did get was horrible


But they wanted lebron to play so well and fix the front office


Bron was supposed to waste away and be a one man team look around the league and see better built teams and be ok with it


While the Bulls Hawks heat thunder etc...win titles


A Dom Wilkins career while the fans and media blame him until he gets old and trade him for parts and he would end up As a what could have been


That the old way of doing things

 

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Same stupid crap. Different day.

 

[alpo]

Nothing dumb about it breh. Bron would be a slightly better Dominique Wilkins if he was playing in 90s, averaging 27ppg with no rings because breh wasn’t good enough to lead teams without multiple superstars…and multiple superstars teaming up in free agency was not happening back then like that. Plus you could rough people up. That’s what these dudes talking about.

The trolling