Rasheed Wallace on LeBron James playing in his era“I don’t think he would be as successful as he is"

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I think it boils down to social media and 24/7 sports talking heads nitpicking every little thing.

I think I'd Jordan came up in this Era he'd have way more haters.
Without a doubt. Jordan getting swept by Bird in the 80s, golfing with Danny Ainge would set the internet and talk shows on fire.
 

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He's right.. He would be Karl Malone.. Stay loyal to an organization and walk away with nothing.. Lebron in this era, created his own team and won championships.
 

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He's right.. He would be Karl Malone.. Stay loyal to an organization and walk away with nothing.. Lebron in this era, created his own team and won championships.


That's what people wanted stay with a team like Cleveland and sign contract after contract


Putting up monster numbers get put out the playoffs year after year get old and get traded for parts


End up As a towel waver
 

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That's what people wanted stay with a team like Cleveland and sign contract after contract


Putting up monster numbers get put out the playoffs year after year get old and get traded for parts


End up As a towel waver

Many players could have had the lebron career but they left their fate to massa to make them a championship team. Be your own GM..
 

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He's right.. He would be Karl Malone.. Stay loyal to an organization and walk away with nothing.. Lebron in this era, created his own team and won championships.
If he’s in those late 80’s/early 90’s Cavs teams idk about that lol.
 

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"Jordan won without a GOAT"- @Kski
Scottie is a GOAT SF. The top 5 you listed, the last 2 in particular, are not locked in. Regardless of positions Pippen and Wade fall in the same bracket of All-Time ranking for most people. Unless you have Wade in the Top 10 or Top 15 of All-Time, which I doubt, they're relatively equal. If Jordan won without a GOAT, so did LeBron.

Glad to see you realize you can't respond to anything else I said because youre peddling bullshyt.
:heh: You’re so emotional about a perceived slight against LeBron that you just furiously typing away and not reading nikka’s posts

:mjlol: Ain’t nobody say LeBron won with a GOAT. I said LeBron won 2 of his rings with multiple HOF teammates (Wade and Both). You the only one talking about that bullshyt :mjtf:

:heh: Those top 10-15 All Time level Players are the GOATs, not no fukking Wade, Pippen, Kyrie.

Wade is a HOFer, All Time Talent, top 3 SG, but I can’t say he’s a GOAT. Wade’s peak is on that level fasho, but his peak was short. Wade’s overall career ain’t on the level of a GOAT too. LeBron coming to the Heat extended his career and got him 2 rings.

:bryan: Relax nikka, Bron don’t know you
 

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Many players could have had the lebron career but they left their fate to massa to make them a championship team. Be your own GM..


Not really in the 80's and late 90's

for some reason these points are never brought up

Because of a rule thats long gone scouts could draft a player and keep him in the tuck before he got out of college Larry bird got drafted in his 2nd or 3rd year at Indiana

The celtics already had a good players on the roster

Then signed Bird to a 15 year contract he had no reason to leave


Magic said he not leaving college if he got drafted by the bulls who had no one he said he wanted to play with KAJ

Imagine a player saying that now :francis:


After the lakers won the title they somehow got the best player in college BB in worthy :ohhh:

Thats like the 2017 warriors getting zion :gucci: imagine that today :usure:


then they signed magic after that first title to a 25 million dollar contract (Look it up) what was his reason to leave :jbhmm:


:mjpls: was signed to a 15 year contract and was close to leaving to the Knicks (look it up) spike lee still sick about it :snoop:

could have been a ploy ...but :beli:

that was the beginning of he 1 off 30 mill a year contracts



these player not gonna waste years and their prime on these poorly ran teams anymore :pachaha:
 

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If he’s in those late 80’s/early 90’s Cavs teams idk about that lol.


If lebron was around then he would have one of those 15 year contracts

when he signed for that 3 after the rookie 5 contract he knew what he was doing


it all went to shyt when he was killing himself and that dark secret came out (I believe its true)

the problem was everyone knew about it but him


they could have told him

somehow

shaq even said that time frame was fukked up because he knew and they kept it from him


he was only 23-24 imagine the things he had to do as a young kid trying to keep her in line and out of the papers and the news


to be real i still dont know how he not a crazy person :whoo:
 

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:heh: You’re so emotional about a perceived slight against LeBron that you just furiously typing away and not reading nikka’s posts

:mjlol: Ain’t nobody say LeBron won with a GOAT. I said LeBron won 2 of his rings with multiple HOF teammates (Wade and Both). You the only one talking about that bullshyt :mjtf:

:heh: Those top 10-15 All Time level Players are the GOATs, not no fukking Wade, Pippen, Kyrie.

Wade is a HOFer, All Time Talent, top 3 SG, but I can’t say he’s a GOAT. Wade’s peak is on that level fasho, but his peak was short. Wade’s overall career ain’t on the level of a GOAT too. LeBron coming to the Heat extended his career and got him 2 rings.

:bryan: Relax nikka, Bron don’t know you
I've read all of your posts and I'm sure I read better than you. You can stop deflecting with "didn't read" comments because you want to double-speak and pretend you're clear.

Our standard of GOAT is different, out of 4500 NBA ballers ever a Top 30 player is a GOAT, but your standard can still be used and both #2s in question are equal.

So both won 3+ without a GOAT teammate (by your standards), and both have multiple rings with both just 1 HOF level teammate (AD or Wade vs Pippen, Bosh nor Love played HOF level) as well as multiple HOF teammates (Wade+Bosh vs Pippen+Rodman+Kukoc)

Sounds a lot better to me than a Bron "defender" dminishing Bron by pretending similar accomplishments weren't achieved :mjgrin:
 

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I've read all of your posts and I'm sure I read better than you. You can stop deflecting with "didn't read" comments because you want to double-speak and pretend you're clear.

Our standard of GOAT is different, out of 4500 NBA ballers ever a Top 30 player is a GOAT, but your standard can still be used and both #2s in question are equal.

So both won 3+ without a GOAT teammate (by your standards), and both have multiple rings with both just 1 HOF level teammate (AD or Wade vs Pippen, Bosh nor Love played HOF level) as well as multiple HOF teammates (Wade+Bosh vs Pippen+Rodman+Kukoc)

Sounds a lot better to me than a Bron "defender" dminishing Bron by pretending similar accomplishments weren't achieved :mjgrin:
:russ: I’m pretty sure you trolling, because if not :picard: Ima walk you through it again tho

I know you on your conspiracy wave and reading ain’t really your thing, but the posts are there if you tryna go read them. I defended LeBron by saying he doesn’t need a super team and said that every other GOAT besides Jordan didn’t win more than 2 of their rings without another GOAT (my GOAT examples were Bron, Kobe, Magic, Kareem, Bird, Shaq. If you think Pippen :laff:and Wade :laff: belong in that conversation, more power to you) or 2+ HOF teammates (My HoF examples were Birds teammates, Bron’s teammates, Pippen, Worthy and Duncan’s teammates) FYI Kukoc and Rodman actually weren’t on the Bulls for that 1st 3Peat.

I guess you can tell yourself I said whatever makes you feel good:yeshrug: , but why does it bother you so much that only MJ has this ESPN stat type accomplishment I randomly came up?
 

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I think it boils down to social media and 24/7 sports talking heads nitpicking every little thing.

I think I'd Jordan came up in this Era he'd have way more haters.
Imagine MJ having his own version of :skip: in the late 80s/early 90s who would get on national TV every morning with WOAT takes


“The Bulls whimper out of the postseason yet again, led by the supremely overrated, selfish, me-first guy Michael Jordan. This is who the media is hyping up to be better than Magic, Larry and Isiah? They call him "Air Jordan" but I'm going to call him "Care Jordan" from now on, because he only cares about his stats and nothing else." - hot take in May 1989

"Surprise, surprise - Care Jordan leads his team to a playoff exit yet again. Maybe the Bulls should look into trading him this offseason for a veteran like Bernard King who isn't selfish and build around the youngsters Scottie Pippen and Horace Grant." - hot take May 1990

"Lets see if Care Jordan will finally stop being selfish enough to lead his team past his nemesis. Or will he lose to Isiah and Co. for the third straight year?" - hot take early May 1991

"Well it took the Pistons getting old, sick and flabby for Care Jordan to FINALLY get to the Finals. He'll be facing the Lakers, who have a ton of experience and are much tougher than any team in the East. I've got the Lakers winning in 5." - hot take early June 1991

"HA! Care Jordan bricks at the end of the game and the Bulls lose game 1. Are the bright lights of the Finals too much for him? I sense a Lakers sweep coming" - hot take after Game 1

"Well the Lakers did what they were supposed to do and split the first two games on the road. They head back to L.A. with the series tied at 1, and they're in the driver's seat. This savvy Lakers squad will beat this inexperienced Bulls team in 5. Magic will NOT let them lose, especially not to Care Jordan!" - hot take after Game 2

"The Finals would've been much different if James Worthy and Byron Scott were healthy. And Magic didn't look like himself all series long, something seemed to be bothering him(:win:). But congrats to Care Jordan for beating an old, injured Lakers team. Next season the Knicks will be much better, Larry and the Celtics will be back and the Cleveland Cavs will be tough. I doubt the Bulls make it back to the Finals next season." - hot take late June 1991
 

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:russ: I’m pretty sure you trolling, because if not :picard: Ima walk you through it again tho

I know you on your conspiracy wave and reading ain’t really your thing, but the posts are there if you tryna go read them. I defended LeBron by saying he doesn’t need a super team and said that every other GOAT besides Jordan didn’t win more than 2 of their rings without another GOAT (my GOAT examples were Bron, Kobe, Magic, Kareem, Bird, Shaq. If you think Pippen :laff:and Wade :laff: belong in that conversation, more power to you) or 2+ HOF teammates (My HoF examples were Birds teammates, Bron’s teammates, Pippen, Worthy and Duncan’s teammates) FYI Kukoc and Rodman actually weren’t on the Bulls for that 1st 3Peat.

I guess you can tell yourself I said whatever makes you feel good:yeshrug: , but why does it bother you so much that only MJ has this ESPN stat type accomplishment I randomly came up?
It bothers me because it's clearly false. I know what years who was on what edition of the Bulls. Pippen is GOAT and which negates your first claim, and even if he's not in your simple ass mind, LeBron is STILL on par with Jordan to have 2+ rings without a GOAT at his side.

Keep walking me through your bullshyt.
 

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Rasheed been gone so long I was like he right

but then I realized Lebron did play in his era. And not only played well he dominated my Pistons as a 22 year old with dudes like me on his team:russ:

da fukk is Sheed talking about lol
 
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