Rastafarbrehians think Ethiopia is the "Promised Land"

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In the video, the guy says a Hebrew Israelite group in Chicago was basically running a sex cult. Do you know the name of that group?

It's weird but that has always been my perception of the group or at least the ones here in Chicago.

Black men with little formal education, no skills, no talents, no money, no currency to attract women, sexually frustrated, frustrated at life, frustrated at the world, being attracted to a group that uplifts their self esteem and also matches them with women they couldn't go out and get before.

Some aspects of Islam is like this.

I actually thing many men are attached to Hebrew Israelites because of the multiple wives they’re allowed to have

That’s always a point of emphasis in some of the documentaries I’ve seen.

Considering like 90% of Hebrew Israelites are men I’m guessing Women is definitely a selling point

Do you really think these Hebrew Israelite guys are any better than the average Christian? Only difference is they have a new “religion” backing their lifestyle. Maybe they’re like black Mormons or something :heh:

Obviously Islam is the prototype for this type of behavior given Muhammad having so many wives and sex slaves and allowing it for his followers.

And then there’s the virgins which are promised to the Muslim men in heaven :manny:

But then again I guess that just part of “Arab” culture back then so who am I to judge :hubie:
 

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Rastas are basically a variant of Hebrew Israelites lol





Basically it went:

Ethiopianism--> Updated Black Nationalism--> The people who took to Judaism: Hebrew Israelites---->Rastas







Ethiopianism--->Updated Black Nationalism--->The people who took to Islam: Moorish Science--->Nation of Islam--> 5%


The amount of falsehoods and historical distortions in just 3 minutes of watching this video :hhh:

That cracka was literally freestyling off the dome with no historical or scholarly information to back his claims

"Haile Selassie and Ethiopians emphasized Arab ancestry over African ancestry" :mjlol:



The man was literally the continental founder and primary promoter of Pan-Africanism on the continent.

Selassie was an outspoken proponent of the Pan-African movement, and, as the leader of one of two sovereign nations within Africa at that time, he emerged as a leader for the entire continent during this era. This augmented the relevance and importance of his speech and actions to a scale greater than that of the boundaries within his political jurisdiction. As he earned international recognition for Ethiopia, so did he for all of Africa. Selassie gained respect and developed a rapport with world leaders within Africa and outside of it. He utilized this reverence in order to “carry the banner” for Africa throughout his tenure as Emperor, as he simultaneously worked for the progress of Ethiopia and all of Africa. The available resources regarding Selassie and the history of Ethiopia during this time do not properly acknowledge the priority he placed on the liberation of other African nations and progress of the entire continent of Africa. His contributions to the Pan-African movement were particularly pertinent at the time, and in some ways, still endure today.

The speeches of Haile Selassie, as well as records of his international relations on behalf of Ethiopia with various countries around the globe make clear that Selassie’s political agenda was conducted with the goal of progress for Africa and the Pan-African movement as priorities.

Source: Virginia Tech Publishing

https://philologiavt.org/articles/10.21061/ph.v5i1.64/#ref2


"Ethiopian Jews didn't regard Hebrew Israelites from America and the Ethiopian government didn't give them any land"

A prominent member of Beta Israel named Taamarat Emanuel and the mayor of Addis Ababa at the time named Kantiba Gabru met with Josiah Ford in Harlem before he moved his congregation out there and are the ones that convinced him and his congreagation to move to Ethiopia

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Josiah Ford's wife founded a school in Ethiopia after world war II which is still around til this day.

Mignon Lorraine Inniss was born on 19th November 1905 in Barbados. In the early twenties, she immigrated to New York City where she studied Business Administration at the Braithwaite School of Business. Here she met a group of Ethiopian dignitaries who were recruiting skilled African-Americans to help in Ethiopia’s development.

Mignon immigrated to Ethiopia with the first group led by Arnold J. Ford, an internationally known scholar and political advocate for the liberation of oppressed peoples throughout the world. Soon thereafter she married Ford. They had two children: Yosef and Abiyi. Arnold J. Ford died in 1935 and is buried in Ethiopia. Mignon remained in Ethiopia to continue the work started by her husband.

After Ethiopia regained her independence in 1941, Mrs. Ford and her godmother Albertha Thomas founded the first coeducational boarding school in the country, the “Beit Auriel School”. The school was later renamed the “Princess Zenebe Wroq School” (PZWS) in memory of the late daughter of Emperor Haile Selassie.

She designed and successfully implemented a well-rounded curriculum with a strong emphasis on the development of the student’s African identities and Ethiopia’s proper place in African and world history.

Mignon Inniss-Ford also co-founded and served on the Board of Directors of several Ethiopian organizations. She was the recipient of numerous awards including the Edward Wilmot Blyden award for Education Excellence in African Development from the African Heritage Studies Association (AHSA). She was later elected as an Elder to the AHSA Board of Directors. She also received an award from the Society of Ethiopian Established in Diaspora (SEED) for Excellence in African Education.

Mignon was a mother, teacher, sister and friend. She is addressed as Teacher Tilliqua (Great Teacher) within the Ethiopian community.

Mignon Lorraine Inniss-Ford died on 15th Jananuary 1995 at the Howard University Hospital in Washington, D.C. She was buried in Addis Ababa, Ethiopia with her husband. The inscription on her tomb reads:

Oh Ethiopia
To thee she was called by duty
With thee she toiled for liberty
With thine she cast her destiny
In thee she rests with dignity

Mignon Lorraine Inniss: 1905 to 1995

What messed up the potential success of the settlement was the timing of the move, which was right near the beginning of the Ethiopian-Italian conflict.

But let's not let a little thing like FACTS get in the way of an Ashkenazi-Khazar agenda driven propaganda piece.

The same narrator of this video is an Ashkenazi Jew who implies in other videos that Beta Israel of Ethiopia are converts and Askenazi's are authentic Biblical Israelites:mjlol:



 

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Was reading an article years ago wherein the italians were apologising for their propoganda campaign against Selassie.
Make of that what you may.
 

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Curious what Ethiopia would have done if they had been overrun by the British/French instead of Italy.

They would’ve split the country apart and taken the pieces for themselves. Selassie got in bed with America to prevent the British from splitting the country apart after WWII when the British occupied and made Ethiopia a protectorate. The French already had Djibouti so they had a former piece of Ethiopia.

Crazy as it may sound, if Ethiopia was to ever be colonized at all Italy would’ve been the best option because they had already turned Eritrea into the most industrialized place in sub Saharan Africa. Even in the five years of occupation they were rapidly developing things. But the ongoing guerilla campaign made things too expensive for Italy. It’s hardly ever brought up in WWII discussion but the continued resistance in Ethiopia was quietly a big factor in weakening the Italian war machine which made it easier for the Allies to eventually invade Italy itself. It also forced Hitler to allocate more German resources to North Africa after East Africa was eventually lost. It’s pretty sick to think that Italian Occupation is the most unified that the Horn of Africa had been since the era of Axum. Just shameful.

But the issue of course is that this is all being done in the name of white folks and Ethiopians would’ve been second class citizens on their own land. Ethiopia and Ethiopian culture at that point in time was too prideful to allow for colonization because white people were viewed as subhuman and weak. It’s after the occupation and American influence that whites gained that pedestal treatment from Ethiopians.

As to the question of this thread, yes they believe Ethiopia is Zion which isn’t a crazy suggestion given it’s prevalence in both Bibles and the Quran. It’s an African centered version of the story of the lost tribes of Israel. Thing is, a serious Rasta will use all different kinds of literature to prove their point. To me, Rastas have things more right than they got it wrong. Ethiopians themselves would be better served by reasoning with the Rasta and learning a little more about themselves. Same applies with the whole diaspora. Someone brought up Ethiopianism and how it was a very early iteration of Black Nationalism. It’s no coincidence that Haiti and Ethiopia were beacons of Black liberation in the 19th and early 20th centuries and have been gettin fukked with by the global white order ever since.
 
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The amount of falsehoods and historical distortions in just 3 minutes of watching this video :hhh:

That cracka was literally freestyling off the dome with no historical or scholarly information to back his claims

"Haile Selassie and Ethiopians emphasized Arab ancestry over African ancestry" :mjlol:



The man was literally the continental founder and primary promoter of Pan-Africanism on the continent.



Source: Virginia Tech Publishing

Philologia


"Ethiopian Jews didn't regard Hebrew Israelites from America and the Ethiopian government didn't give them any land"

A prominent member of Beta Israel named Taamarat Emanuel and the mayor of Addis Ababa at the time named Kantiba Gabru met with Josiah Ford in Harlem before he moved his congregation out there and are the ones that convinced him and his congreagation to move to Ethiopia

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Josiah Ford's wife founded a school in Ethiopia after world war II which is still around til this day.



Mignon Lorraine Inniss: 1905 to 1995

What messed up the potential success of the settlement was the timing of the move, which was right near the beginning of the Ethiopian-Italian conflict.

But let's not let a little thing like FACTS get in the way of an Ashkenazi-Khazar agenda driven propaganda piece.

The same narrator of this video is an Ashkenazi Jew who implies in other videos that Beta Israel of Ethiopia are converts and Askenazi's are authentic Biblical Israelites:mjlol:





My mom went to Mrs. Ford’s school. Between people like her and John Robinson there have been beautiful examples of Diasporans repatriating to Ethiopia and contributing to society.

Anyways, this is the thing I harp on about my own people. We do a terrible job of defending our legacy and culture and we also don’t claim what’s rightfully ours. Beta Israel is very literal evidence of Ethiopia’s position as an ancient civilization which was involved in the development of the major Abrahamic faiths. It even precedes those faiths and cultures.

And yet, in many cases we chase after their acceptance as opposed to acknowledging that we predate these institutions. That can be traced to remnants of the medieval era in that Religion was a powerful political tool and so there’s still a desire to identify political prestige with prominence in religion. So it’s a contest to prove they’re the holiest Christians (forget Jews or Muslims they just tryna be better Israelis and Arabs fr) instead of proving they are among the deepest roots of the human family tree. As long as Ethiopians do this, they’ll live life turned inside out chasing the white man.
 
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The amount of falsehoods and historical distortions in just 3 minutes of watching this video :hhh:

That cracka was literally freestyling off the dome with no historical or scholarly information to back his claims

"Haile Selassie and Ethiopians emphasized Arab ancestry over African ancestry" :mjlol:



The man was literally the continental founder and primary promoter of Pan-Africanism on the continent.

There actually is some proof that Hallie DID NOT consider himself or his people "Black". He definitely played a role in Pan-Africanism on the continent but I think he saw it as a geographical thing rather than one based on/in race. Apparently, Hallie told a Nigerian journalist/reporter that his people (highland ethios) were not Africans/Blacks and had some connection to the Middle East.

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We already know the story about Menelik telling a Haitian leader that he wasn't a Negro but instead Caucasoid. Hallie's daughter

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on the other hand, when she made an appeal to the wider "black" world

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considered herself/her people as "blacks" while addressing the Hallie "We aren't Africans" fiasco


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There is a reason ADOS people when deciding if they were gonna rock with Ethios, they pressed Halie with the "Black" question rather than the "African" question. You can skate by on some:mjpls: while sticking to the "African" label/concept in a way that you can't under the "Black" label/concept.


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Going by Hallie's response to the question, it seems like he didn't identify as "black" in the racial sense but was willing to identify as "African" from a geographical sense
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There actually is some proof that Hallie DID NOT consider himself or his people "Black". He definitely played a role in Pan-Africanism on the continent but I think he saw it as a geographical thing rather than one based on/in race. Apparently, Hallie told a Nigerian journalist/reporter that his people (highland ethios) were not Africans/Blacks and had some connection to the Middle East.

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We already know the story about Menelik telling a Haitian leader that he wasn't a Negro but instead Caucasoid. Hallie's daughter

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on the other hand, when she made an appeal to the wider "black" world

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considered herself/her people as "blacks" while addressing the Hallie "We aren't Africans" fiasco


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There is a reason ADOS people when deciding if they were gonna rock with Ethios, they pressed Halie with the "Black" question rather than the "African" question. You can skate by on some:mjpls: while sticking to the "African" label/concept in a way that you can't under the "Black" label/concept.


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Going by Hallie's response to the question, it seems like he didn't identify as "black" in the racial sense but was willing to identify as "African" from a geographical sense
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That quote from Menelik was definitely not legit. It was published in a book by a Hamitic hypothesis theorist by the name of Robert Skinner, who was also an American consul-general to President Teddy Roosevelt, who had to justify why they were overspending on various commercial expenditures in the region at that time to the American public by using Hamitic hypothesis propaganda and playing up the "caucasianess" of Ethiopians to the American public.

We specifically know it's BS because we have a written account of the event by the man in question himself who took part in the meeting. Benito Sylvain. And none of this was mentioned by Benito Sylvain in his own account.

For several decades, the only source of information about the historic meeting between Emperor Menelik and Mr. Benito Sylvain, a Haitian national and the first Western black to travel to East Africa, was Robert P. Skinner. Skinner was the American consul-general in the Mediterranean city of Marseille, and it was his lobbying that convinced President Theodore Roosevelt of the value of establishing political and commercial presence in the Red Sea hinterlands. In 1903, Skinner himself would head the historic diplomatic mission to Ethiopia, and three years later he would publish an account of his trip there.

The controversial passage in question, which Dr. Tsegaye has cited as proof of Ethiopian xenophobia, or even racism, was based on a hearsay Skinner picked up while in the capital, more likely from the foreign legations. According to the story, in 1897 Sylvain had taken all the trouble to come to Ethiopia with an ambitious program of race amelioration, only to discover that the Ethiopians saw themselves differently. “The negro should be uplifted,” Menelik was said to have responded firmly. “… But in coming to me to take the leadership, you are knocking at the wrong door, so to speak. You know, I am not a negro at all: I am a Caucasian.”

In fairness to the American emissary, his passage had positive things to say of the West Indian. Just a few lines below was the portrait of Sylvain as well-educated and socially refined. Skinner’s agenda was more complex, however, especially when read against his analysis of Ethiopian racial morphology in a chapter entitled “The Caucasians of Cush.” What Skinner sought was to defend Roosevelt’s decision of sending a costly diplomatic mission to the Horn of Africa, a region of which Americans knew little, by reenacting the fictive whitehood of post-Adwa Ethiopia. In other words, the expression Skinner attributed to Menelik was meant to assuage domestic racial concerns, regardless of how Ethiopians saw or felt about themselves. After all, as one historian commented, the racial jargons with which Menelik seemed to feel so much at home sounded more American than Ethiopian.

Fortunately, the encounters between Sylvain and Menelik were well documented in the diaries of none other than Sylvain himself. Therefore, to impute to Menelik the racial sensibilities of Confederate America is the result of either poor scholarship or bad faith, or possibly both.


On the morning of April 10, at eleven o’clock, the Haitian presented himself at the Ethiopian palace, attired in a sharp navy uniform with white gloves and carrying a sword. The sight of an overseas black person in a European military decor must have been startling. For Taytu, indifferent to protocol, impetuously stepped closer, studied the stranger critically, and exclaimed to Yosef Neguse, the interpreter: “He is definitely a man of our race!” For his part, Sylvain saw in the queen’s body language a natural intelligence, shrewdness of character and dominance, traits that made her the most uncompromising patriot in the eyes of Europeans. Her opulent physique spoke of her untoiling life as a noble woman. And her light complexion, at least by local standards, must have reminded Sylvain that in Ethiopia, as in Haiti and the rest of the Caribbean, society paid attention to shades of pigmentation, light skin commanding more social value over dark skin. Taytu was regal but not attractive, as the Western black saw her. Sylvain found her natural beauty compromised by hydropsy, better known as edema, a potentially debilitating medical condition characterized by a swelling of the skin tissues due to excessive water retention.

Menelik, Taytu’s third husband according to Sylvain, exuded a more affable personality. In his mid-fifties, the king remained physically active, starting his day at five in the morning with a stroll in the palace garden, and spending much of the day consulting with local and foreign dignitaries. He was an iconoclast in his own ways, but with the virtues and vitality of a great monarch. Sylvain described him in superlatives as one of the greatest men alive, in league with the Pope, the German Kaiser, and the Russian Tsar. Having grown up since the age of six in a strictly disciplinarian seminary of Port-au-Prince, it was as if Sylvain had finally discovered the paternal figure he had longed for as a child. In one passage, Sylvain wrote how he was welcomed with spontaneous cordiality by the great African sovereign. In another, he felt a dream-come-true in seeing with his own eyes the illustrious Negus, the moral exemplar of all humanity.

Indeed, the exchange between Menelik and Sylvain could not have been more different from what was imagined by Skinner. Notorious for asking practical questions, Menelik used occasions like this to gauge the world’s opinion about himself and his empire. On the issue of territorial integrity, he elicited Sylvain’s consent that Ethiopia’s encirclement by the colonial powers of Italy, Britain, and France posed the country’s most serious existential threat. On his part, responding to a question about the slave trade, Menelik reminded his guest that he had already promulgated two imperial edicts banning the practice, and that he hoped that domestic slavery would die as a consequence. Sylvain remarked that ending slavery would not only deprive Europeans the pretext for their anti-Ethiopian propaganda, but it would also transform the mixed feelings that blacks in the Americas had of their ancestral land.

Then the discussion drifted to Sylvain’s vision of “African regeneration.” Even countries like Egypt and Ethiopia, with a long history of “civilization,” were often disparaged in popular opinion because of unfavorable European coverage, Sylvain explained. The solution, as the West Indian saw it, was for blacks in Africa and the Americas to set aside petty differences and unite in a common cause of racial solidarity. This was not about a racial backlash. Rather, it was about uplifting oneself to the level of Europeans, with Western blacks playing the “civilizing” role. More specifically, it was up to the elites of Haiti, Ethiopia, and North American blacks to join hands in working for collective social transformation. The concept was elitist, even Eurocentric, by present-day standards. However, it was also prescient in its own right, as it foreshadowed the South-South dialogues of the late twentieth and early twenty-first centuries. The palace audience ended with Menelik having decorated Sylvain with the Cross of the Order of Solomon and having named him an aide-de-camp, his liaison to the pan-African world at large.

Thus opened the first chapter of Ethiopian-American relations, whose course of rise and fall over a century has since fascinated many a historian. Sylvain would visit Ethiopia a few more times. Menelik would hire as his personal physician a French-speaking West Indian doctor, Joseph Vitalien of Guadeloupe. He would personally welcome a certain Daniel R. Alexander, the ex-slave Missourian who married and settled in the outskirts of Addis Ababa. In the mid-1930s, just before the threat of Italian invasion forced foreigners out of Ethiopia, among them the eighty-year-old Alexander, the number of black repatriates in the country would number close to a hundred, most of them colonial nationals from the English-speaking Caribbean islands.
Did Menelik ever claim to be “Caucasian,” as argued by Dr. Tsegaye Ararsa?

References:

Robert P. Skinner, Abyssinia of To-Day: An Account of the First Mission Sent by the American Government to the Court of the King of Kings, 1903-1904 (New York: Longman, 1906).

Antoine Bervin, Benito Sylvain: Apôtre du Relèvement Social des Noirs (Port-au-Prince: La Phalange, 1969).

Chris Prouty, Empress Taytu and Emperor Menelik II: Ethiopia 1883-1910 (Trenton, NJ: Red Sea Press, 1986).

Raymond Jonas, Battle of Adwa: African Victory in the Age of Empire (Cambridge: Harvard University Press, 2011).

“Former Missourian Describes Menelik,” Pittsburgh Courier February 8, 1936.

“Abroad for Thirty Years, Speaks Eleven Languages,” Afro-American December 30, 1939.


The likelihood of a 19th Century Ethiopian king having any concept of "Caucasian" and "Negro" is slim to nil based upon 19th Century Ethiopian general lexicography and culture.

In regards to the quote to the Nigerian newspaper by Haile Selassie, i would need to see the full context of the quote. That little statement is not enough. Because the term "Africa" refering to the whole continent was more or less a colonial era invention, that had no real historocity in Ethiopia, or the rest of the continent of Africa for that matter. "The Hamito-Semitic" part of the statement would be a fact based upon Western classifications. It's the old way of saying "Afro-Asiatic". But again none of these terms or classifications are Ethiopian concepts or apart of Ethiopian culture or lexicography.

In this video for instance, the narrator refers to Ethiopians as "Aryan" and "Caucasian" based upon the Western European Hamitic hypothesis, which is not something that Ethiopians subscribe to themselves within their own culture, but was apart Western thinking at the time.



He could've very well been trying to interpret western concepts and classifications from an outsider's perspective. More context is needed.

But i do agree that Haile Selassie's Pan-Africanism was more of a geo-political ploy to protect themselves from the colonial powers, which they were surrounded on all sides at the time.
 

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The likelihood of a 19th Century Ethiopian king having any concept of "Caucasian" and "Negro" is slim to nil based upon 19th Century Ethiopian general lexicography and culture.

It's not like Ethios were isolated from the outside world, I'm pretty sure they were aware of the white mans discourse on them and how it contrasted with other "black africans"

In regards to the quote to the Nigerian newspaper by Haile Selassie, i would need to see the full context of the quote. That little statement is not enough. Because the term "Africa" refering to the whole continent was more or less a colonial era invention, that had no real historocity in Ethiopia, or the rest of the continent of Africa for that matter. "The Hamito-Semitic" part of the statement would be a fact based upon Western classifications. It's the old way of saying "Afro-Asiatic". But again none of these terms or classifications are Ethiopian concepts or apart of Ethiopian culture or lexicography.

In this video for instance, the narrator refers to Ethiopians as "Aryan" and "Caucasian" based upon the Western European Hamitic hypothesis, which is not something that Ethiopians subscribe to themselves within their own culture, but was apart Western thinking at the time.



He could've very well been trying to interpret western concepts and classifications from an outsider's perspective. More context is needed.


I don't know if you're aware but Highland Ethios' own origin story is what gave these Euros/Anthro guys the ammo they needed for their own theories on said Ethiopians

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If you think about it, Hallie and/or Menelik saying they weren't "black" in that time period, was most likely based on Ethios own racial conceptions that pre-dated any Western race concepts

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It's not like Ethios were isolated from the outside world, I'm pretty sure they were aware of the white mans discourse on them and how it contrasted with other "black africans"



I don't know if you're aware but Highland Ethios' own origin story is what gave these Euros/Anthro guys the ammo they needed for their own theories on said Ethiopians

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If you think about it, Hallie and/or Menelik saying they weren't "black" in that time period, was most likely based on Ethios own racial conceptions that pre-dated any Western race concepts

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Ethiopians were very culturally isolated during this time period, even til this day to an extent, when it comes to the imposition and adopting of foreign ideals.

And it's extremely common for nations to have close trade and geo-political relationships with eachother while not adopting eachother's culture. The US and Saudi Arabia has had a close trade and geo-political ties for several decades, but how many states or counties in the US has implemented Sharia law? Or how many LGBT pride parades are being held in Saudi Arabia?

As i stated above, likelihood of a 19th/Early 20th century Ethiopian King having a meeting with a diginitary and propagating a Western European concept which is not apart of their own cultural norms or lexicography is slim to nil, especially when the subject of the meeting didn't mention it in his own account of the meeting.

In regards to the origin stories of the Habesha, i'm well aware. Most modern day Ethiopians/Eritreans descend from South Arabia. And that also includes Southern Ethiopians like the Oromo, who all started migrating to the land from Southern Arabia roughly 3000-4000 years ago and displaced, subjegated, enslaved and absorbed the indigenous Nilo-Saharan tribes within their own populations.

This is no different than what Niger-Congo/Bantu tribes did during the "Bantu expansion" which took place between 1500-3000 years ago. When Niger-Congo/Bantu groups swept thru the continent and displaced, subjegated, enslaved and assimilated indigenous Nilo-Saharan, Pygmy and San into their own populations

Niger-Congo/Bantu also have oral and written traditions (primarly in Timbuktu) that give a near east origin for most Niger-Congo/Bantu tribes.

Most modern day Africans are not historically and genetically indigenous to the continent :yeshrug:

There was a book written in the 19th century on the Fulani called "The Fula of Central Africa" where the author (who also was a Hamitic hypothesis theorist) had quotes from the Fulani that claimed that they were descended from "White men from the Middle East" the difference is that claim is actually supported by modern day genetic studies on the Fulani.
 

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In regards to the origin stories of the Habesha, i'm well aware. Most modern day Ethiopians/Eritreans descend from South Arabia.

They are highland Cushytic speaking groups (their native african roots) who got Semeticized/Sabeanized both culturally and genetically

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abbreviations above for the samples of EtA, EtO and EtT are respectively Ethiopian Amharas, Ethiopian Oromos and Ethiopian Tigrayans, these samples (as well as the Ethiopian Jews, AKA Beta Israel)


And that also includes Southern Ethiopians like the Oromo, who all started migrating to the land from Southern Arabia roughly 3000-4000 years ago and displaced, subjegated, enslaved and absorbed the indigenous Nilo-Saharan tribes within their own populations.


Oromos are "native african" Cushytic speakers


The Oromo people are one of the oldest cushytic peoples inhabiting the Horn of Africa, as there is still no correct estimate of the history of their settlement in the region, but many indications suggest that they have been living in north Kenya and south-east Ethiopia for more than 7000 years until the great expansion in 1520 where then they expanded to the south-west and some locations in the north. An evidence is given that they are the womb from which most of the eastern Cushytic peoples emerged , such as the Somalis, Afaris, and the Saho in Eritrea and Sudan.


but it's true, that they most likely have acquired some of this Southern Arabian admx indirectly from mixing with "Ethio-Semitic" speakers


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Most modern day Africans are not historically and genetically indigenous to the continent :yeshrug:

There was a book written in the 19th century on the Fulani called "The Fula of Central Africa" where the author (who also was a Hamitic hypothesis theorist) had quotes from the Fulani that claimed that they were descended from "White men from the Middle East" the difference is that claim is actually supported by modern day genetic studies on the Fulani.


Fulanis are mainly native upper west african with some North African admx

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PCA plots of the FST distances, the 'Central-West African', the 'West African', as well as the 'Eastern Bantu' clusters are close. The Dogon population however shows the least amount of the 'Central-West African' cluster and is almost completely dominated by the 'West African' cluster, which the reverse is true for the Igbo and Yoruba. Similarly, the Fulani show almost none of the 'Central-West African' cluster but rather, are mostly dominated by the 'West African' cluster, with the difference from the Dogon being that the Fulani have a significant affinity with the 'North African' cluster rather than the 'Central-West African' one
 
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