Real Man Talk: How much do black men under 30 value healthy aggression and competition amongst men?

[MajesticLion]

You need a working definition of what "healthy competition" means here. I understand your meaning...but many reading this won't.

 

[SNYC]

Reminds me of this line...

“Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times.”

 

[Bossino]

Not sure if race has any place in this discussion and its difficult to measure 'how much' given that I don't have any data in front of me..
But based on my observations, I would guess that millenial and Gen Z males are more sensitive to that kind of communication.

22 checking in this is facts. I can tolerate it if it's worth it, but it rarely is. I'm primed on efficiency and in general treat people with respect til given a reason not to, doesn't necessarily mean I respect the person, I'm just treating them that way for the time being. Moreover that type fraternization is only for close circles or tolerated (by some) for people who have some type of status , clout, rank. Frankly if you don't know me like that, you're not going to talk to me crazy without me bouncing or me putting you in your place.

True but control comes from chasing women not a collective movement of leaving women alone. But it is not my generation and I dont get it.

It's an efficiency thing. The guys I know from h.s. on the nerdier side of things just opt out on women unless the woman approaches them. They figure they're not good at bagging them, but they kill on schoolwork or their job or video games, and they just focus on what they're good out. Others are generally unhappy with what most women are into/behave like nowadays so they just opt out of dealing with them because the cons outweigh the pros. I have 30+ bodies, and I don't really deal with women unless I'm actively trying to get sex. Can go days without having a conversation with a broad. Just not feeling/seeing tons of non sexual value with them.

It's like that social media, and a poor economy makes dealing with women and people in general transactional. Kids nowadays are more likely to completely pass on things they don't like or that don't serve them well.

 

[RTF]

Depends on what you mean by aggression. Going after goals aggressively, yes. Holding firm in your position, yes. Being able to attack or defend aggressively when the opportunity or threat is around.

But shouting at people in public? Nope.

 

[RTF]

I also think young brehs are hot on masculinity because it is lost. That Red Pill Manosphere stuff is lead by old brehs but I think young brehs are buying into it because they stuck.

 

[Womb Raider]

There’s a fine line between healthy competition and disrespect.

I knew a bunch of nikkas that only talk shyt to people they think they can beat, when it comes to other nikkas they quiet as a mouse. That shyt right there not tough to me, at all. I’m not saying pick fights against bigger nikkas but if you got the confidence to fight non fighters you better not bytch when competition appears.

I played football so when it comes to sports you just compete. It’s different when it comes to the people you hang around outside of sports, in your home, in the streets etc

 

[tuckgod]

Reminds me of this line...

“Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times.”

Breh I love that quote, hadn’t seen it in a good minute.

 

[tuckgod]

You need a working definition of what "healthy competition" means here. I understand your meaning...but many reading this won't.

I don’t know, help me out.

I thought it was just a natural thing among men all my life, to be competitive with each other in everything on some steel sharpens steel/survival of the fittest shyt, but now I’m starting to think it’s a learned behavior.

Either that or I gotta put my tin foil hat on and say that the foods are altering young men’s hormones and making them less masculine in the traditional sense.

 

[UserNameless]

@tuckdog plenty of research is showing that testosterone is steadily declining among males as the years pass

feed your children whole, organic non-GMO foods brethren


But I do think “healthy competition” needs to be operationalized as @MajesticLion said

 

[Crude]

Hostile environment makes you tougher. Teaches you how to stick up for yourself and IMO gives you tougher skin.

Quoted for emphasis.

I went though a situation about 10 years ago that changed my whole approach to how I deal with acquaintances, people on my job, and how I deal with others in passing.

Going through that fire made me tougher, but it wasn't a pleasant experience at the time. I was on the verge of quitting my job, leaving my girlfriend at the time, and I was looking at certain people that I thought had my back crazy.

I started to move to another state and simply try to start over from scratch. I glad I didn't do that now, things eventually turned around for me. Adversity introduces you to yourself and it definitely makes you tougher when you overcome it.

 

[tuckgod]

Adversity introduces you to yourself and it definitely makes you tougher when you overcome it.

Absolutely.