Real talk: How was Chingy ever popular?

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2003-2008 might as well of been the dark ages of mainstream hiphop...and probably hiphop in general.

I blame the South.

2000-2002 was just weird. It felt like every song had cheap casino keyboards and bootleg/wannabe neptunes/swizz beats production.

The only real standouts at that time were just blaze, heatmakerz, and kanye...but then as the years past they had two billion copycats...especially kanye with the sped up vocals on dawn near every track

I can't blame the south cuz the South was at least offering something different. I would rather party to Lil Jon's singles than Cassidy's.

And for the record a lot of my favorite artists are from this era. But I pretty much only listened to G-Unit, Dipset and Clipse from 2002- 2005. Like everyday, all day with only a few exceptions

Hurts me to say it but the 90s babies/newer generation have better artists and more variety than we did...but the bar for talent is much lower now too
 
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Because he came up during that ''Lil Bow Wow, B2K, 106 and Park'' era of hiphop
I never like dude but let's not act like ''One Call Away'' wasn't getting heavy spins on the radio
106 and Park had to ''retire'' the video of their countdown.
 
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The early 2000s had nothing to do with "bangers" or "party music" or anything relevant to musical tastes. It was all about major labels making decisions to make easy money. This is right at the tail end of the CD "everybody gets to go platinum" era so the industry was all about cashing in.

Chingy
J-Kwon
Pretty Willie
Murphy Lee and the rest of the Lunatics.

All of them got on cuz Nelly went diamond and they were from the same city. Talent was not important cuz every major album followed a the same formula any ways. Street Song, Club Banger, Song for the Ladies, Neptunes song repeat.

Mixtapes were really all that mattered
This post is so on the money...I actually thought about it just now.

The 2000s were the era that the suits realized..."hey hip hop is a money maker!".

You had G-Unit and 50 making the run of a lifetime...
Then Eminem.
Then movies like Get Rich Or Die Trying, 8Mile, The Wash...etc..
Then TV shows like Doggy Foshizzle Telivizzle...
Then the g-unit clothing line, the g-unit sneakers, the Sean carter s.dots..The birdman lugz...The game hurricane sneakers. The Free Yayo T-Shirts...The G-Unot t-shirts. SHADY ltd...
Then video games like Def Jam Vendetta and the 50 cent video game....

Latrell Sprewell rims...or spinners.
Tmobile sidekicks
Boost mobile commercials

Wow...what a kind of corny era...but I had fun then.
 

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This post is so on the money...I actually thought about it just now.

The 2000s were the era that the suits realized..."hey hip hop is a money maker!".

You had G-Unit and 50 making the run of a lifetime...
Then Eminem.
Then movies like Get Rich Or Die Trying, 8Mile, The Wash...etc..
Then TV shows like Doggy Foshizzle Telivizzle...
Then the g-unit clothing line, the g-unit sneakers, the Sean carter s.dots..The birdman lugz...The game hurricane sneakers. The Free Yayo T-Shirts...The G-Unot t-shirts. SHADY ltd...
Then video games like Def Jam Vendetta and the 50 cent video game....

Wow...what a kind of corny era...but I had fun then.
Yup. We're the same age (1984). That was my era, but looking back it was not good
 
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Oh I'll say this...

When I was in the mall one day in 2004 and saw the term "Bling Bling" on a sign in the jewelry section...I was just like :snoop:

It was a sign of the times.

I hope Birdman and Wayne got their checks for that.
 

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This post is so on the money...I actually thought about it just now.

The 2000s were the era that the suits realized..."hey hip hop is a money maker!".

You had G-Unit and 50 making the run of a lifetime...
Then Eminem.
Then movies like Get Rich Or Die Trying, 8Mile, The Wash...etc..
Then TV shows like Doggy Foshizzle Telivizzle...
Then the g-unit clothing line, the g-unit sneakers, the Sean carter s.dots..The birdman lugz...The game hurricane sneakers. The Free Yayo T-Shirts...The G-Unot t-shirts. SHADY ltd...
Then video games like Def Jam Vendetta and the 50 cent video game....

Wow...what a kind of corny era...but I had fun then.

real talk...someone who starts listening to hip hop in the early 2000s is not gonna understand the spirit of hip hop culture unless they get OG help and/or really do their homework. To the 2000-listeners, hip hop is just another shade of pop music. The culture had been so watered down by then.

I started listening to hip hop seriously as a teen in 97. I had heard stuff earlier in 93/94 but it doesn't really count. Anyway, from 97 forward, I've been following hip hop seriously. The first album I bought with my own money was Mase's Harlem World.

The point is: it wasn't until 2003/2004 that I started going back to classics I had missed. Because hip hop was getting shytty so I finally had the time to play catch-up. And it completely changed my perspective on hip hop. Illmatic in particular. When I heard "It Aint Hard to Tell", a light bulb went off like: 'ohh.... hip hop is supposed to be about your history and your environment. Not just some witty lines about your style and something fun for the club.'

It took me as a listener since 97 to figure that shyt out. Imagine some cat that started listening to hip hop in 2003. or 2006. or 2009. or 2011. They're so lost in the sauce you wonder if they're salvageable.
 
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Btw....New Chingy :blessed:



On tour with Smilez n Southstar and Ness and Choppa from Da Band...at a mall near you!
 
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real talk...someone who starts listening to hip hop in the early 2000s is not gonna understand the spirit of hip hop culture unless they get OG help. To the 2000-listeners, hop hop is just another shade of pop music. The culture had been so watered down by then.

I started listening to hip hop seriously as a teen in 97. I had heard stuff earlier in 93/94 but it doesn't really count. Anyway, from 97 forward, I've been following hip hop seriously. The first album I bought with my own money was Mase's Harlem World.

The point is: it wasn't until 2003/2004 that I started going back to classics I had missed. Because hip hop was getting shytty so I finally had the time to play catch-up. And it completely changed my perspective on hip hop. Illmatic in particular. When I heard "It Aint Hard to Tell", a light bulb went off like: 'ohh.... hip hop is supposed to be about your history and your environment. Not just some witty lines about your style and something fun for the club.'

It took me as a listener since 97 to figure that shyt out. Imagine some cat that started listening to hip hop in 2003. or 2006. or 2009. or 2011. They're so lost in the sauce you wonder if they're salvageable.
The first line of this post is some truth if I did hear it...

Honestly I've been listening to hip hop since 1989/1990...but I was young...I really didn't get into it until like 1994/1995 with biggie & wu...Some brand nubile and Pete rock and cl smooth. Out Kast was really the group that had me hooked though in 1996 with atliens.

By 2004 hip hop was so wack i just started revisiting the classics. I would drive around listening to burned cds with tracks by lords of the underground, n-tyce, Keith murray, Erick sermon, redman, smooth da gambler, Trigga that hustla, souls of mischief, pharcyde, geto boys, scarface...etc. I was completely not interested in new rap or hip hop and kind of just became a pretentious underground elitist at that point.

I honestly enjoy all of that snap muzak now compared to back then...
 

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To make a long story short Chingy was basically a poorman's version of Drake.
 

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Terrible fukking song.



I fukking hated that stuff. Chipmunk soul is one of the corniest trends in hip hop history.

You can't blame the South entirely because New York was falling the fukk off by the early 2000s. In fact, after 50, you got a slew of SMACK DVD trash rappers with no personality and gun bars. All with fitteds.

And of course, the rise of Dipshyts.

That is a terrible song. If the dude knew how to do one thing though it was get people to watch his videos. In that video he had the nostalgia thing working hard for him. Had Jason Weaver and grown up Rudy just when people found out she grew up to be kinda fine.

Also BET Uncut.
 

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Nelly is the main reason IMO. Similar image plus Nelly put St. Louis on the map

After Nelly came out you had all these new artiist from STL within 5 years.

Lunatics, Chingy, J-Kwon, Jibbs, Huey.

Pretty Willie :troll:
 

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Chingy's existence was the first time I felt hip hop take a blade to the gut. There was Nelly and Missy, but they were sorta street. And they added to hip hop in their own creative ways.

But there was nothing remotely street about Chingy. His shyt sounded 100% like a pop record. Beyond sugary. Like a suburban tween white girl trapped in a Black man's body.

@OnlyInCalifornia real talk. Though I think Chingy was sugary on a level we hadn't seen before.

Chingy was super corny I agree but RIGHT THURR had strip clubs/clubs/parties going at the time. Those throw away party songs are needed as much as people want it to all be pure, long lasting songs.
 

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Chingy was super corny I agree but RIGHT THURR had strip clubs/clubs/parties going at the time. Those throw away party songs are needed as much as people want it to all be pure, long lasting songs.

Realistically, you're absolutely right. People obviously have a desire for disposable music. If they hated disposable music, there wouldn't be any disposable music. I feel like there shouldn't be any disposable music but I'm not your average person. Music isn't transcendent for your average person, and it's just a product for the makers/sellers.

And for every product in this world, there's the high-end quality shyt and the generic shyt. Everyone uses both at some point. And low quality, easily discarded shyt has its purposes, especially when you can't afford the high end shyt. Some consumers are more high end, some more low end.

I think my issue is that people aren't honest with themselves when it comes to art. They don't make the distinction. We know a Ferrari is no way shape or form fukking with a Mazda.

But you got regular nikkas who simply can't tell the difference and are actually brainwashed into believing that the new low-end Mazda is superior to the classic Ferrari that's still worth close to a million dollars. And you're sitting there going 'wtf. how come this person can't tell the difference?'

They can't tell the difference mostly because of price point. Art is the only thing in this world where high quality and low quality cost the same. It's a beautiful thing because it means that everyone can share and participate in the best shyt. It's too bad that we don't take advantage of that opportunity as a society.
 
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