Real talk, this MGTOW/Redpill shyt might be the worst thing to ever hit society

[Ooh Marty]

nikkas really picking up game from cacs online now ?

 

[pop]

They have unfavorable opinions about black men and women that enjoy sex with black men.
Ol workout steroid fake game having weirdos.
They're really mad some brehs have game.
MGTOW is not HOH...
Hard on hoes involves game. PUA game is not natural and doesn't work on certain types of women.

Eldridge Cleaver was a serial rapist. That doesn't make the Black panther party any less legit. All movements have losers and weirdos. You have to look at the core philosophy and determine if the movement is legit or not. "Game" is just another word for tricking. That's what you brehs don't understand and what the red pill is trying to teach. TRP want's you to be the guy who can fukk her without having a nice job, car, clothes or house. If you have to entice a women with money or material objects you are a trick period. TRP works on ALL women. It's just that like everything else it has genetic limits. A 5'7 Indian male using TRP, will not be as successful as a 6'3 white guy.

 

[philmonroe]

Op was mgtow for the longest, the coli remembers those rants

Basically but OP is an emotional bytch always looking for attention. nikka might as well put on some tights, start doing butt workouts for the gram, and put up some booking info.

 

[ZoeGod]

I find it funny how nikkas on the GMB,Redpill shyt talk about saving the black family but don't want to have a black family or get married. Theye are no better then those BLM idiots who wants to do away with the nuclear family.

 

[TRY GOD]

I mean the esteemed MGTOW TLR chapter president got engaged to a woman he had only been dating for 6 months.... and hes been quiet as a church mouse ever since

Brehs need to focus more on results and success rather than rhetoric and assignment of blame. Thats my big problem with pretty much all these "men self-help" communities.

SHOTS FIRED @Reinscarf

 

[ZoeGod]

Eldridge Cleaver was a serial rapist. That doesn't make the Black panther party any less legit. All movements have losers and weirdos. You have to look at the core philosophy and determine if the movement is legit or not. "Game" is just another word for tricking. That's what you brehs don't understand and what the red pill is trying to teach. TRP want's you to be the guy who can fukk her without having a nice job, car, clothes or house. If you have to entice a women with money or material objects you are a trick period. TRP works on ALL women. It's just that like everything else it has genetic limits. A 5'7 Indian male using TRP, will not be as successful as a 6'3 white guy.

You are an idiot. Game is having confidence to talk and approach a women that you find attractive. Game is if a chick rejects you, you don't cry about it but keep it moving. Game is building your self confidence by getting your life together. This Redpill shyt is just a bunch of pansies who can't get woman and cry why they keep getting rejected. There was non of this bullshyt during my pops,grandpops,great grandfather and so on. They still were able to get women.

 

[philmonroe]

Disclaimer: I didn't write this.

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Monday, March 24, 2008

Time to move beyond MGTOW

There is something very wrong with MGTOW. Instead of talking about 'men going their own way', we see...

-Anti-Americanism (or other rants against one's mother country)
-Declarations of Chicken Little economic/social/cultural collapse.
-Religious screeds against a particular religion or against all religions.
-Conspiracy theories.
-Evangelizing the 'Deck-Stacked-Against-Us-Have-No-Hope' view of society (which is unproductive)
-Evangelizing that one ought to live like a Mexican...
-...or another country...
-Forums become a 'Yes!' echo chamber. There is no discussion, just rants filled with yes-men.

These 'elements' are well known but ignored because of the 'good things' that do come out. We should just shrug off these things and compromise with them. Well, there is one problem.

When food and poison compromise, which is the victor? It is the poison. Eating it may be sustaining... for the short term... but your body fills up with these poison toxins. You begin to lose your ambition, your passion, and generally become filled with bitterness.

I have wondered how this is occurring. It is not uncommon. Many 'movements' somehow get filled with negative filled people with anger issues and other wackos. But not all movements. So how did MGTOW become a container for this garbage?

The answer is that MGTOW is founded on a negative itself: avoidance of woman. This has caused blanket rants against women. "But many of these rants are accurate, Pook!" So what? A farmer can rant all day about the unfairness of frost, but that will not get him anywhere. There is no cosmic justice out there. The world is what it is and its better to live in it that in a hyper-reality.

Perhaps this will hit more to the point. How many years has MGTOW existed? And what has changed since then? Really, nothing has changed at all.

But I have to wonder why no one in MGTOW can keep to the subject. Pick any random thread and you will find someone start going off the reservation of a speech against a religion or another unasked for soapbox sermon on some oddball subject. Often, many will randomly insert his "brilliant" assertion that civilization will collapse in ten years.

MGTOW is based on the belief that men have made mistakes (which should be spared making mistakes). These mistakes can include marriage, being nice guy, being worshipful to women, and so on. All these mistakes have a common theme: egotism. When the man got married, he was so sure he was doing the right thing and the naysayers were all jealous villains.

Since so many join MGTOW based on being wrong in the past, why does everyone act like they are right all the time? It is amazing! The egotism never died. It just shifted into new forms. This would explain why someone can't keep to the subject of MGTOW and instead must start bashing a religion, bashing a country, or bashing something else. One can be right on something and be wrong on other things. But MGTOW do not see that. They act like they have suddenly become right on everything (so they become vocal on it).

If we were wrong in the past, and it damaged our lives (such as getting married to a fiend), why do we strut around as if we have such 'wisdom'? If we were so wrong once, we could be wrong again. Yet, this reservation is nowhere to be found in MGTOW. Every man has his own pet theories. The dogs slip their leash and begin to ravage the good content.

To be honest, I don't see many happy MGTOW. There are no celebrations about being 'free' but complaining about... something. Trust me; celebrations and good cheer are far more effective and contagious than "being right all the time".

In normal society, people do not like being around someone 'right all the time'. Even if they are right, they are downright annoying. People prefer light-hearted, good cheered fun. When I think of MGTOW, 'good cheer' is the last to come to mind. MGTOW isn't about being alive as it is about escaping pain.

For as much as we mock feminists for being negative, for getting with women to talk bad about men, it is becoming more and more clear that MGTOW is becoming more like the mirror image. Behavior by behavior, a MGTOW male acts very similar to a feminist in lifestyle and habit. You begin to live alone, have meetings with guys to 'talk bad about women' (to ease existential pains), and write bad essays.

I think it is becoming clear that marriage and children is a natural longing in not just women but men as well. Nature did not intend gender avoidance. I believe generally everyone is repelled by the negative pessimistic tone found on MGTOW. However, people return consistently for a dose of the poison to ease the existential pain (caused by the natural longing of wife and children which is found in every culture and time). Once convinced by the rantings that women are more painful than pleasurable, the male goes off semi-satisfied. But, alas, the natural longing creeps up again causing the male to return.


why, it must be requited. I hear how I am censured:
they say I will bear myself proudly, if I perceive
the love come from her; they say too that she will
rather die than give any sign of affection. I did
never think to marry: I must not seem proud: happy
are they that hear their detractions and can put
them to mending. They say the lady is fair; 'tis a
truth, I can bear them witness; and virtuous; 'tis
so, I cannot reprove it; and wise, but for loving
me; by my troth, it is no addition to her wit, nor
no great argument of her folly, for I will be
horribly in love with her. I may chance have some
odd quirks and remnants of wit broken on me,
because I have railed so long against marriage: but
doth not the appetite alter? a man loves the meat
in his youth that he cannot endure in his age.
Shall quips and sentences and these paper bullets of
the brain awe a man from the career of his humour?
No, the world must be peopled. When I said I would
die a bachelor, I did not think I should live till I
were married.

-"Much Ado About Nothing", Shakespeare

MGTOW is equally damned.

Honestly bold could describe here in a lot of threads esp in TLR. Same exact shyt.

 

[pop]

I find it funny how nikkas on the GMB,Redpill shyt talk about saving the black family but don't want to have a black family or get married. Theye are no better then those BLM idiots who wants to do away with the nuclear family.

TRP is about protecting men. Right now men have nothing to gain from marriage and everything to lose. Write up some fair & balanced laws with regards to paternity, child support, alimony, and no fault divorce and marriage rates would sky rocket. What feminist and the mainstream media don't tell you is that men are very loving and nurturing. Most of us would love to have a loyal wife and our own biological children to raise. But as it stands, hypergamy is at peak levels, wives can be caught on camera getting gangbanged by a football team and still take half of his earnings, child support, and alimony. Men can be forced into a 19 month contract for a b*stard that is not even his. Any man worth a shyt has no reason to get married or even have kids these days. It's like playing Russian roulette.

 

[no.]

You are in denial. No one is saying men are perfect. The media and society tells us men aren't shyt everyday. Now it's women's turn. Red Pillers are true feminist because we recognize that women are human beings, and not heavenly angels sent to earth as a gift from god. They have(ALOT!!!) of flaws, weakness, and negative attributes just like men do. In society it's ok to generalize men as being violent, but to generalize women as opportunist whores even with mountains of academic research, and personal testimony is seen as wrong and outrageous. Don't you think that's unfair?

There's a difference between saying women are humans and have flaws and saying "Women have no loyalty beyond their own narcissism"

Honestly if women had no loyalty beyond their own narcissism your mother would have abandoned you as a child the moment you annoyed her ass

I don't see the mountains of academic research on this but if you gonna generalize women as inherently opportunistic whores or men as inherently violent it will affect your ability to form healthy relationships and not self-improve you in the least

 

[MalikX]

U are still putting women on a pedestal, just in a different way.

Its like Meek with them late ass weak ass Drake disses. Drake is obviously still on this nikka's mind and has him mad, and he knows nobody gives a fukk about his shyt outside of Drake disses anymore. Thats you dudes. You play like you dont care about women and you're going your own way, but your whole base ideology pivots around them and feminism. You're only fooling yourselves.

It's OK for men to want to be with women. That's human nature. Stop fighting it out of fear of getting hurt.

Stop your shaming, breh.

I will always be for men improving themselves and putting themselves in a better position for the future. The reason you have a problem with The Red Pill is because you think like a woman. So you're offended like a woman would be. Movements like TRP are basically for guys who were given the wrong script in society. Society says be one way. They do that, then find out very harshly that women don't respect it, and guys don't either. Even though that's the bullshyt they've forcefed. And instead of whining about things that will never change, they accept the world as it is with all of its ugliness and start implementing ways to succeed in it. I'm sorry that bothers you.

I mean what's your alternative? Keep losing? Keep being a simp? Keep being a sucker?

Exactly.

What are you really arguing?

 

[Indiglow Meta (R$G)]

#HOH is from here right? Well 80% of the membership here is proven to be forcibly celibate

HOH existed long before I was on this board...I heard about it on campus in 2001...nikkas had shirts and shyt.
Frat type brehs...and they got hoes, they were just hard on them.

 

[TRY GOD]

The truth hurts. Call Red Pillers what you want but their core philosophy is right on. Black American guys talk a lot of shyt about being players and being HOH but they are the biggest simps on the planet by far. How can you live in the black community where red pill philosophy is on full display and not believe it? The Hyper gamy(multiple baby daddies) Alpha fukks/Beta Bucks(Thug makes the baby/simp pays and plays with it) the Hamstering ("so what if he has Aids, look at those rims guuuurrrllll!"). I think it hurts a lot of you guys because your mothers were whores who jumped from one man to the next and could not secure the commitment of an Alpha male.

As far as the whole lames and nerds thing goes, yes their are guys in redpill who are just worthless chumps who will never have the balls to go out and live life. But the vast majority including myself are just stand up guys who are furious at being lied to and shamed our whole lives about what a "real man" is supposed to be. We were told, often by our own parents that women were morally superior to men and that they never lied, cheated, manipulated, or hurt anyone. That a real man is supposed to always respect women, raise her 12 b*stard children as if they are his, and never raise his hand. TRP exposes the truth about relationships and life in general.

Their is no such thing as game, you either have the genetics to fukk for free or you don't. Having to use a nice car, clothes, crib, or job is tricking. Their is a homeless dusty nikka that she lets fukk her in the ass and piss in her mouth because he is tall or has "swag". Women are not capable of loving men. They can only love their children. Everyone else is expendable to them. Women have no empathy for unattractive men. If you are a 5'7 chubby nikka laying bleeding in the street with no men around, prepare to meet your maker because these bytches would just turn their heads or fake text on their phones to avoid having to deal with you. Everything that Disney and your parents(single mom) told you about women is wrong. They are ice cold, and not deserving of any mercy, compassion, or respect.

Somebody ban this CAC

 

[Diyhai]

The failures of men today can be directly tied to the destruction of the nuclear family which Feminists(aka we don't need dumb men) gleefully accpeted and strived for.... A weak father is just as bad as an absentee father. Without a dominant and powerful head of the home, is it really shocking you get goons and hellions as a result? The hardest community hit is the Black Community obviously as we endure the worst of everything.

With a lack of strong men in the house, we have our young men getting embarrassed by thots on Worldstar....

Wouldnt blame feminists for the fall of the nuclear family
For the Black community i feel its more mass incarceration
Most woman in the black community havent had black men that supported them as fathers or husbands
that why some take that the stance of I dont need a man
I agree strong men are needed but I dont see that as being the fault of women

 

[Indiglow Meta (R$G)]

Eldridge Cleaver was a serial rapist. That doesn't make the Black panther party any less legit. All movements have losers and weirdos. You have to look at the core philosophy and determine if the movement is legit or not. "Game" is just another word for tricking. That's what you brehs don't understand and what the red pill is trying to teach. TRP want's you to be the guy who can fukk her without having a nice job, car, clothes or house. If you have to entice a women with money or material objects you are a trick period. TRP works on ALL women. It's just that like everything else it has genetic limits. A 5'7 Indian male using TRP, will not be as successful as a 6'3 white guy.

p*ssy you are a weirdo.
Tricking is spending money on a bytch. If you're white, you can discontinue this convo. I used to have hoes FOR SALE, my nikka. We are in a different universe.

 

[pop]

You are an idiot. Game is having confidence to talk and approach a women that you find attractive. Game is if a chick rejects you, you don't cry about it but keep it moving. Game is building your self confidence by getting your life together. This Redpill shyt is just a bunch of pansies who can't get woman and cry why they keep getting rejected. There was non of this bullshyt during my pops,grandpops,great grandfather and so on. They still were able to get women.

No that's red pill. DGAF attitude(approach many women) abundance mentality(keep it moving, because you have other plates) and self confidence(lift,train mma).