Reason for Jim Jones/Cam'ron beef

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One of his best songs. I didn't think anything of that Jim Jones shyt or anything else he said in the song because I always thought it was a song of fukkery and he was just wildin

you telling me cam didn't go to marilyn manson's mansion to watch vintage videos of charlie manson dancing? :ohhh:
 

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i wonder what the dynamic is between Cam and Max.

are they cool? were they cool? anybody know anything?

Max and Cam are from the same building. Cam is the one that introduced max and Jimmy. And even during the Jones beef when interviewers would ask if he had beef with the rest of dipset max would always shout out Cam and say they're cool
 

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Lmao I'm sure most people forget Cam had a couple real Eminem-ish songs on his first album. He was definitely going for that shock value.

"Oh yeah I got my balls pierced, And I ain't seen my psychologist in four years..."
 

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I'm sure it has to do with money and the dipset logo/licensing (stance socks for example been using it). Also the London situation that got Juelz kidnapped was cause Jim booked a show out there, collected the money and didn't show up. That shyt damn near got Cam jammed up 2 years ago, almost a decade after the initial shyt and they still can't get money in London smh. I'm sure it's a culmination of things.

Yooo they fukked that London money up. That was a huge mistake. How you fukk up the London money???? Vanilla Ice is touring London in a few months. AARP card rappers can still get money in London, but the Dips are banned :snoop:
 

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Jim Jones is just a sheisty ass nikka and he's overall bad business. He tries to get over on promoters and he fukked up the sizzurp deal by blowing the marketing budget on bullshyt (trips to Miami, cars, opening clubs)




I remember a story he told about jerking promoters in Chicago. He took the money up front and tried to bounce. Cam and them didnt know. They had to hide under cars to sneak away...some Chicago street cats were on their heads




His get over mentality probably fukked up so much business.
 

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I remember a story he told about jerking promoters in Chicago. He took the money up front and tried to bounce. Cam and them didnt know. They had to hide under cars to sneak away...some Chicago street cats were on their heads




His get over mentality probably fukked up so much business.

Just a lot of shameful shyt. That's why they were banned from so many places. Chicago, DC were probably their biggest markets outside of NY so why they causing a ruckus where they're supposed to eat? See the difference between how they were moving and how Gucci and Boosie move when they do shows. Boosie was on the breakfast club talking about how he works with promoters. Tell him the venue size and he'll give you a pice based on that. He's taking anything from $35k-$75k.

Honestly wouldn't be surprised as Cam got older and he realized how much money they may have cost the ages with all this shyt, especially when you compare to what ppl like Gucci and Boosie do.
 
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i wonder what the dynamic is between Cam and Max.

are they cool? were they cool? anybody know anything?
cam shouts max b out all the time, like so many things I could post.. he even showed him love on a funk flex freestyle in front of jim jones and said he talked to him on the phone as recent as this year
 

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i wonder what the dynamic is between Cam and Max.

are they cool? were they cool? anybody know anything?

max and cam were always good at least from the outside.. you can even hear dame grease talking about cam like he's separate from jim and byrdgang



:banderas: classic

only ones spared were cam and mel murda (kinda)

edit- cam is the only one who knew max before
 
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jim jones started getting more popular and wanted to renegoitate the dip set deal he had so he could get more money off the brand
cam said hell no.
jim got into juelzs ear about it as well, so it was 2 vs 1, cam still didnt care.
jim started acting funny after that, sayin that him and camron should stage a fake beef for the public and was overall just getting caught up in the fame

jim jones started doing his byrdman thing and once he got a hit record, and had stack and max as his ghostwriters he started REALLY feelin himself and started taking his disrespect public

he had some interview with miss jones disrespecitng cam (miss jones only released a small portion of it to the public, but camron said mizz jones hooked him up with the full thing and it was extremely disrespectful)

the tru life thing happened (jim didnt have his back)

the 50 thing happened (jim snaked him)

cam never reallly fukked with him after that

jim jones buzz fell off after the wave went to prison and stack bundles died.

jim started squashing beefs with mase, cam etc in an attempt to go back to the glory days

cam gave jimmy an in for them to be cool again (not the same as before, cause jimmy burned that bridge and cam had his own crew and artists that didnt involve jimmy now, but cool enough to be cordial and do business together) but anytime jimmy went on emotional rants, or get out of pocket,cam would clown him right away and distance himself from him.

jimmy wants cam to treat him with the same level of respect and communication that he was used to when they were on the come-up. cam would of never erased jimmy off a song without telling jimmy back in the day. He would never hang with ppl that jimmy had a problem with. they were on the same page when it came to music, street stuff (the snitch situation for example) and pretty much the whole movement

cam just dont fukk with him on that level any more. im sure jimmy wishes he could go back in time
 

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max and cam were always good at least from the outside.. you can even hear dame grease talking about cam like he's separate from jim and byrdgang



:banderas: classic

only ones spared were cam and mel murda (kinda)

edit- cam is the only one who knew max before



:wow::wow::wow::wow:


cant wait till max comes home.
 

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max and cam were always good at least from the outside.. you can even hear dame grease talking about cam like he's separate from jim and byrdgang



:banderas: classic

only ones spared were cam and mel murda (kinda)

edit- cam is the only one who knew max before

Lmao this nikka got the perm with the curled tips! Max a fool:mjlol:
 

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jim jones started getting more popular and wanted to renegoitate the dip set deal he had so he could get more money off the brand
cam said hell no.
jim got into juelzs ear about it as well, so it was 2 vs 1, cam still didnt care.
jim started acting funny after that, sayin that him and camron should stage a fake beef for the public and was overall just getting caught up in the fame

jim jones started doing his byrdman thing and once he got a hit record, and had stack and max as his ghostwriters he started REALLY feelin himself and started taking his disrespect public

he had some interview with miss jones disrespecitng cam (miss jones only released a small portion of it to the public, but camron said mizz jones hooked him up with the full thing and it was extremely disrespectful)

the tru life thing happened (jim didnt have his back)

the 50 thing happened (jim snaked him)

cam never reallly fukked with him after that

jim jones buzz fell off after the wave went to prison and stack bundles died.

jim started squashing beefs with mase, cam etc in an attempt to go back to the glory days

cam gave jimmy an in for them to be cool again (not the same as before, cause jimmy burned that bridge and cam had his own crew and artists that didnt involve jimmy now, but cool enough to be cordial and do business together) but anytime jimmy went on emotional rants, or get out of pocket,cam would clown him right away and distance himself from him.

jimmy wants cam to treat him with the same level of respect and communication that he was used to when they were on the come-up. cam would of never erased jimmy off a song without telling jimmy back in the day. He would never hang with ppl that jimmy had a problem with. they were on the same page when it came to music, street stuff (the snitch situation for example) and pretty much the whole movement

cam just dont fukk with him on that level any more. im sure jimmy wishes he could go back in time
Damn, this a good breakdown of it all.
 

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I'm sure it has to do with money and the dipset logo/licensing (stance socks for example been using it). Also the London situation that got Juelz kidnapped was cause Jim booked a show out there, collected the money and didn't show up. That shyt damn near got Cam jammed up 2 years ago, almost a decade after the initial shyt and they still can't get money in London smh. I'm sure it's a culmination of things.

Y'all remember which Cocaine City volume the Juelz in London footage was on? The footage came out between late-2008 and early-2009.
 
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