Recent study finds that 60% of men under 30 are single due to social media and the internet

[The ADD]

I'd like you to show me one real life example of a man in his mid 30s with no relationship experience getting into a happy healthy relationship.

I'll wait.

My man I said you were destined to be alone, I’m dishonest and you are correct.

What else are you looking for?

 

[Mandarin Duck]

My man I said you were destined to be alone, I’m dishonest and you are correct.

What else are you looking for?

Separate from my situation, I'm talking about women wanting to deal with men with no relationship experience.

I'm simply saying most women would expect a man by 35 to have enough relationship experience to know what to do and how to act in a relationship.

Most women would not want to deal with a man who by 35 has not had any relationship experience.

Again, separate from me, admit that is true.

 

[Westbama Heartthrob]

Separate from my situation, I'm talking about women wanting to deal with men with no relationship experience.

I'm simply saying most women would expect a man by 35 to have enough relationship experience to know what to do and how to act in a relationship.

Most women would not want to deal with a man who by 35 has not had any relationship experience.

Again, separate from me, admit that is true.

Why you still going back and forth with breh? You can't see him trying to exit the conversation?

 

[idonttouchgrass]

It's like applying for an entry level job that requires 2 years experience .

lie on your application?

 

[Mandarin Duck]

Why you still going back and forth with breh? You can't see him trying to exit the conversation?

Because I'm tired of brehs thinking that we have regular relationships with women.

For some of us, women have treated us so disrespectfullly for nothing at all it's impacted our self esteem forever.

I ain't @Pdiddy walking around telling every woman she has pretty eyes.

I've been disrespected for nothing more than how I look.

Salute to any dude that gets treated like a regular human being by women but I'm not one of those people.

 

[The ADD]

Because I'm tired of brehs thinking that we have regular relationships with women.

For some of us, women have treated us so disrespectfullly for nothing at all it's impacted our self esteem forever.

I ain't @Pdiddy walking around telling every woman she has pretty eyes.

I've been disrespected for nothing more than how I look.

Salute to any dude that gets treated like a regular human being by women but I'm not one of those people.

I clearly said you been through some shyt and wasn’t trying to invalidate that.

I actually tried to engage you in this and not in a way to look down on you. Tried to share some of what I went through but ultimately you have decided how your life will be going forward and nobody can tell you differently.

Even in these last few posts you ask me to take you out of it and then when called out by @Westbama Heartthrob you make it about your personal circumstances.

You are clearly hurting bro, it’s understandable but I didn’t approach you with malice

 

[Mandarin Duck]

I actually tried to engage you in this and not in a way to look down on you. Tried to share some of what I went through but ultimately you have decided how your life will be going forward and nobody can tell you differently.

Even in these last few posts you ask me to take you out of it and then when called out by @Westbama Heartthrob you make it about your personal circumstances.

You are clearly hurting bro, it’s understandable but I didn’t approach you with malice

I don't mean this in a disrespectful way, but what you've been through when it comes to women doesn't compare to what I've been through.

You've been in a relationship which means women have validated you sexually.

You've never had women make you feel like a disgusting human being for existing. Not for hitting on them.


You've never had women humiliate you since elementary for being alive.

Congratulations to you on getting married.

Imagine having simple interactions with women that left you feeling so disgusted with who you are as a person, the idea of a prostitute agreeing to have sex with you boost your confidence.

But you or anyone that's posted in this thread doesn't understand how dealing with women for so many different years negatively can make you feel like not only less than a man, but less than a human being.

This wasn't the position I ultimately wanted women to have in my life, it's the position they've been in because of how they've treated me. Because of how I look.

The general idea that men are more shallow than women never made sense to me because I've never disrespected a woman because of how she looks.

I can't tell you the amount of times I've been disrespected for how I look. Again, not even hitting on them. Just being around. Just being alive.

 

[Westbama Heartthrob]

Because I'm tired of brehs thinking that we have regular relationships with women.

For some of us, women have treated us so disrespectfullly for nothing at all it's impacted our self esteem forever.

I ain't @Pdiddy walking around telling every woman she has pretty eyes.

I've been disrespected for nothing more than how I look.

Salute to any dude that gets treated like a regular human being by women but I'm not one of those people.

I can sympathize with your struggles, don't get me wrong

We all done been called some form of lame, ugly, goofy, etc.

Other than the biggest property owners in duckberg of course. But it's easy to Ruminate over the wrong things. I'm not gonna disagree with you that having no relationship experience at 35 is a hard sell. I will say, even if you did that's no guarantee that you wouldn't still have trouble looking for the right one for you.

Cause relationships have ups and downs. Some shyt you'll look back on like, "Why dafukk I even bother with that at all "

At the end of the day, we can only play the cards we're dealt. Getting discouraged is normal. It ain't fun of course but it's a human response to have when you notice a trend of failures

But dating isn't a science or algebraic equation. Cause it's very possible to try everything and fail until one day the things just work out. Whether or not you put in the max, minimal, or sufficient effort

I won't sell you any platitudes. I'm still searching myself afterall . Under different circumstances but really same boat to me. Searching for a non Christian black woman in the Bible belt is a long one

All I can say is, do whatever you feel is authentic to you and makes you feel good about yourself. Preferably things that aren't dependent upon meeting the expectations of someone else. Cause why do you want a relationship?

You want someone to share a life with? Support through different stages? Or because it'll make you feel more like a man?

No wrong answer. How you feel is how you feel. It's just depending on what you think it is, there might be a way to achieve it outside of a relationship.

Cause relationships are hard. Having the right person makes all the difference. Cause think about it. A woman that really loves you isn't gonna care about your lack of experience. As much as rejection stings, keep in mind that it's people getting out of the way. Especially those that treated you poorly. They're showing you upfront that they would only treat you poorly. Cause as bad as the rejection hurt, that would be how you'd feel all the time dating them

 

[The ADD]

I don't mean this in a disrespectful way, but what you've been through when it comes to women doesn't compare to what I've been through.

You've been in a relationship which means women have validated you sexually.

You've never had women make you feel like a disgusting human being for existing. Not for hitting on them.


You've never had women humiliate you since elementary for being alive.

Congratulations to you on getting married.

But you or anyone that's posted in this thread doesn't understand how dealing with women for so many different years negatively can make you feel like not only less than a man, but less than a human being.

This wasn't the position I ultimately wanted women to have in my life, it's the position they've been in because of how they've treated me. Because of how I look.

The general idea that men are more shallow than women never made sense to me because I've never disrespected a woman because of how she looks.

I can't tell you the amount of times I've been disrespected for how I look. Again, not even hitting on them. Just being around. Just being alive.

And this is the issue, nobody including me tried to tell you your experiences weren’t/arent fukked up or invalid.

What you did in actuality was invalidate anyone’s opinion on the dynamic if it wasn’t aligned with your experience. Hence the stance that “most women don’t want to deal with a man with no dating experience” and the variations you used. Ultimately you are fishing for us to co-sign what you have resigned yourself to.

“Most women” is not a zero sum game. It’s not an automatic that a woman won’t deal with a man 35 and up with limited dating or relationship experience. What good is a person that’s been in a lot of relationships and was a shyt partner compared to some with less experience that works to be a good partner?

On one hand you are telling us we haven’t been through what you have been through but on the other you are telling us about relationships at levels you haven’t been in.

Bottom line, I wish the best for you breh, truly. That said I’m done with the back and forth.

 

[Mandarin Duck]

“Most women” is not a zero sum game. It’s not an automatic that a woman won’t deal with a man 35 and up with limited dating or relationship experience. What good is a person that’s been in a lot of relationships and was a shyt partner compared to some with less experience that works to be a good partner?

The percentage of women who are willing to deal with a 35 year old man with no relationship experience is quite in fact, damn near zero.

Women don't want to deal with that so much it's been suggested in this thread to lie about it, which you yourself dapped.

limited dating or relationship experience. What good is a person that’s been in a lot of relationships and was a shyt partner compared to some with less experience that works to be a good partner?

On one hand you are telling us we haven’t been through what you have been through but on the other you are telling us about relationships at levels you haven’t been in.

Bottom line, I wish the best for you breh, truly. That said I’m done with the back and forth.

You keep saying "limited relationship experience" which is not the right description.

None. None at all. That is the right description.

A woman does not want to deal with a middle aged man who has not been in a relationship at all.

I'm not telling you anything about relationships that I do not know.

I am simply stating that a majority of women would not want to deal with a 35 year old man who's never been in a relationship, and for whatever reason you act like admitting that is incel-ish. That's the truth.

Simply ask any middle aged woman if she would rather date a 35 year old who's been in a relationship, or a 35 who hasn't.

You're the one making this more difficult than it needs to be.

 

[Mandarin Duck]

I'm not gonna disagree with you that having no relationship experience at 35 is a hard sell.

I don't know why @The ADD is acting like this isn't true.

 

[The ADD]

The percentage of women who are willing to deal with a 35 year old man with no relationship experience is quite in fact, damn near zero.

Women don't want to deal with that so much it's been suggested in this thread to lie about it, which you yourself dapped.


You keep saying "limited relationship experience" which is not the right description.

None. None at all. That is the right description.

A woman does not want to deal with a middle aged man who has not been in a relationship at all.

I'm not telling you anything about relationships that I do not know.

I am simply stating that a majority of women would not want to deal with a 35 year old man who's never been in a relationship, and for whatever reason you act like admitting that is incel-ish. That's the truth.

Simply ask any middle aged woman if she would rather date a 35 year old who's been in a relationship, or a 35 who hasn't.

You're the one making this more difficult than it needs to be.

You are correct @Mandarin Duck

 

[Mandarin Duck]

@The ADD I don't need help. Women should learn from a young age that the way they treat little boys effects them for the rest of their life's.

 

[Westbama Heartthrob]

I don't know why @The ADD is acting like this isn't true.

But he didn't

He was just saying that it's still possible despite the difficulty

You don't think there's a female equivalent of you? A woman who hasn't had a relationship and has experienced put downs for her appearance?

 

[The ADD]

But he didn't

He was just saying that it's still possible despite the difficulty

You don't think there's a female equivalent of you? A woman who hasn't had a relationship and has experienced put downs for her appearance?

Wild concept……….