Red Pill: Goes In On Diddy's Bodyguard Claims : They Wanted Puffy That Night Not Biggie

[ZEB WALTON]

fukk is u talkin bout? One lawyer can represent 2 defendants. Who told u they couldnt? They gave u wrong info. It's not illegal and u don't know shyt.

in jersey you cant. perhaps its just a jersey law.

actually i just looked it up. if the judge believes theres a conflict of intrest he wont let yall have the same lawyer. a lotta times the court wont allow it

Disqualification and Appointment of Separate Counsel
A judge may stop or "disqualify" an attorney from representing co-defendants and appoint separate counsel for each defendant when the:

• Co-defendants refuse to waive the conflict, or
• The judge can't allow a waiver because there's an obvious conflict of interest before trial, or when it's clear that a potential conflict that may later develop into an actual conflict. A good example is when there's a chance that a co-defendant may be called as a witness against another co-defendant

thats why they had diff lawyers

so actually @spliz its you who dont know shyt, so stop talking stupid. never seen someone so full of himself telling other people whats up

i was just in court with my co defendant WE WERENT ALLOWED TO USE SAME LAWYER

watch ya mouth bro. fukks wrong wit you

 

[spliz]

in jersey you cant. perhaps its just a jersey law.

actually i just looked it up. if the judge believes theres a conflict of intrest he wont let yall have the same lawyer. a lotta times the court wont allow it

No. U just have to sign a conflict of interest waiver and u good to go.
This is literally the first thing that comes up.

Yes, one lawyer can represent two co-defendants in the same case as long as both agree to waive any conflict of interest there might be.

 

[ZEB WALTON]

No. U just have to sign a conflict of interest waiver and u good to go.
This is literally the first thing that comes up.

reread my post. the waiver dont mean shyt if you might hav eto testify against ya co defendant which is exactly what happened.

If the judge says no you cannot just do it anyway. So is that legal or no. Yall thick

 

[Wacky D]

lol @ the shyne part, when he was running down all the bad boy artists that turned religious.

"hes an orthodox jew. hes a Rosenberg. hes not even an Israelite. hes not even down with icupk & them".

I always laughed at shyne for that too.

Why would Puff want people to snitch on Shyne? That doesn't even make sense, why would a business man want to lose his investment.

act like shyne was a top-seller brehs.

 

[spliz]

reread my post. the waiver dont mean shyt if you might hav eto testify against ya co defendant which is exactly what happened

It's not illegal at all. It depends on the circumstances. In which me. U or Nas weren't in the courts. So in all reality. All of us are right and wrong. Cause ive witnessed this happen myself. Which is why I reacted the way I did.

When it comes to representing more than one person, an attorney may have a "conflict of interest." That is, an attorney must give his client "effective assistance." This includes giving his full attention and doing everything possible to protect his client's rights. So, when the same attorney represents more than one co-defendant, there's the possibility that he can't do those things for all co-defendants.

There are, however, safeguards to help make sure that co-defendants get the effective assistance of counsel that's guaranteed by theSixth Amendment to the US Constitution. These include:

• Requiring the courts to explain joint representation to all defendants
• Allowing co-defendants to "waive" a conflict and allow the joint representation, and
• Removing or "disqualifying" an attorney and not allowing joint representation

 

[spliz]

in jersey you cant. perhaps its just a jersey law.

actually i just looked it up. if the judge believes theres a conflict of intrest he wont let yall have the same lawyer. a lotta times the court wont allow it

Disqualification and Appointment of Separate Counsel
A judge may stop or "disqualify" an attorney from representing co-defendants and appoint separate counsel for each defendant when the:

• Co-defendants refuse to waive the conflict, or
• The judge can't allow a waiver because there's an obvious conflict of interest before trial, or when it's clear that a potential conflict that may later develop into an actual conflict. A good example is when there's a chance that a co-defendant may be called as a witness against another co-defendant

thats why they had diff lawyers

so actually @spliz its you who dont know shyt, so stop talking stupid. never seen someone so full of himself telling other people whats up

i was just in court with my co defendant WE WERENT ALLOWED TO USE SAME LAWYER

watch ya mouth bro. fukks wrong wit you

U watch ya mouth. U were wrong saying it's illegal and can't happen. None of us were wrong or right based on the fact we don't know the full details of the case. Only thing flat out wrong was u saying it's illegal for Co defendants to have the same lawyer.

 

[SleezyBigSlim]

Why would Puff want people to snitch on Shyne? That doesn't even make sense, why would a business man want to lose his investment.

Because someone needed to take the fall so he wouldn't. Puff a snake

 

[Wacky D]

Dude sounds like a straight hater, we need to stop Jay and Puff . They are gonna go into politics, we need stop them they don't deserve what they have.

jay-z & puffy are the type of dudes that will sell their mothers down the drain for a quick buck & some cheap jewelry.

 

[MooseMouthMthafuga]

Dude sounds like a straight hater, we need to stop Jay and Puff . They are gonna go into politics, we need stop them they don't deserve what they have. And his talk about Pac hating on materialism? He was hating on Puff and them for being materialistic like him. He was also the first of his era after the LL/Run Dmc cats that was living the high life in clubs with Madonna and them, best friends with European homos like Versace. Dude is talking out of his ass. I guess most people would when you have a 20 minute freestyle about rumors.

I don't understand why people want to control what entertainers do.
If Puff spend all his time investing his money in Harlem he would would not have any money, and not be able to invest in Harlem. Can't a brother just be rich, spread some of that money through charities, raise some awareness on social media and chill with his family? It's towards the second half of your life when you start doing that type of shyt. And as we've seen Puff has been more active, just a month or two ago he announced that he'll be involved with a school in Harlem.

I still don't know why Puff is to blame.
Puff and them had 7 goons with them and he was just as likely if not more likely to get clipped as Big, he can't be blamed for that.
How can one want his biggest source of income to disappear . Puff is not god, he didn't know that he also could make an album that would move 8 mill, or that Mase would blow up, or that he would be a half successful actor, become a tv-network executive and sort of a profile in the liquor business.

Pac wore nice shyt, but he never promoted materialism in his music like that.


Big & Puff quoted some materialistic shyt every other bar.


Pac only mentioned wearing Versace one time & that was on Hit Em Up.

BEST FRIENDS with Versace?....That guy practically begged Pac to come to his show.He literally said he thought Pac was the most beautiful man alive....so you're right about the homo part.


And him chilling in the club with Madonna is some personal shyt. You act like he went and made a song bragging about it.Most celebs live "the high life".....That's their life..


You reaching with that post, breh

 

[BO BARON]

Because someone needed to take the fall so he wouldn't. Puff a snake

Take the fall for recklessnessly shooting a woman in the eye in front of a bunch of bystanders ;what:

 

[Big Boss]

Dude was dropping knowledge.

 

[General Mills]

"live from the land of snakes, where the same nikka hand you shake, be the one to plan your wake" BARS

Breh...i rewound that twice.

 

[Still Benefited]

All this info thats out there now and nikkas still think biggie was the target? Puff ran that light and thats why biggie was hit up,nikkas want it to be deeper than what it was..it was retaliation for the 2pac murder, if big wouldve ran the light and puffy wouldve got caught, puffy would've been dead..its not that hard to see..the REAL beef wasnt with Biggie, he was just a earner..the beef was between Suge/Deathrow and Puffy and his dudes...

Depends on what info you choose to believe,I used to believe what you sayin til I got more info....There's reason to believe Big was the one who put out the hit on Pac imo based on the Murder Rap documentary,as well as other evidence.

Think about it for a second,supposedly Suge puts a hit out in retaliation for Pac....with all the talk of Suge hating Puff,and him holding Puff responsible for his boys death even prior to Pac....you really think he told the hit men "Im'a pay you this large sum to kill whoever you feel like between Puff who I hate,or his artist Biggie who I don't really have anything against"....that shyt don't really add up at all....it must be bullshyt,or Suge wasn't as upset with Puff as advertised

 

[noondawg]

Breh...i rewound that twice.

What song is that ?

 

[Tupac in a Business Suit]

A lot of these dudes on these DVDs are full of shyt. I aint going to say anything more because I aint into the gossip. Anyone who used to hang out uptown back in the day at Jimmys in Harlem could tell you that on some street shyt, if they wanted to get Puff, aint no bodyguard would be able to save him.