Red pill Manosphere podcaster cac gets taken down HARD and exposed for not living what he preaches.

[Rayzah]

Which three are telling them just that without inflammatory speech towards or about women?

I’m familiar with Myron
KS and Andrew tate
KS was the only one I watched regularly
But all Tate was doing was trying to appeal to men by acting like the celebrity they look up to and talking like the rappers they listen to. It’s a persona to appeal to the youth. His point was level up, get in shape and stop watching internet porn all day. He was t trying to get these men to have some damn confidence and stop putting the p*ssy on a pedestal.

In the 90’s and 2000’s most men talked like them so to act like they hate women in 2025 is wild to me.

KS regularly told me to get their shyt together and stop expecting women to come to you and stop thinking you deserved it. Again what’s wrong with that? All the other shyt y’all be mentioned be rumors and hearsay

 

[kingofnyc]

Yeah no one agrees with you.

You're simping to a racist, childish POS.

It's smelling like WS cac in here.

I swear I have to find another site to go to to kill time ….. because y’all are fukking insufferable
Like I literally said nothing in defense of this cac red pill podcaster …. I don’t even know who the fukk he is

My whole issue was about the feminist lesbian going at his wife

 

[General Mills]

Bro that other goofy ass Black dude who constantly gets the from cacs in that space for years but be kissing their asses got exposed for 1 dating a single mother after his whole act has been anti single moms and 2 she is five years older than him (late 40s by now) after telling dudes to only date women under 23 or you're getting left overs.
Oh yeah I forgot she's fat and he constantly talked about only date chicks that are in the gym.
The jokes write themselves.

Donovan Sharp is such a lame

 

[NYC Rebel]

I swear I have to find another site to go to to kill time …..

Do everyone that solid because you are a complete dumb ass who thinks its everyone else while adding zero.

 

[LV Koopa]

To quote a Dornish b*stard: you want a good girl but you need the bad p*ssy. All these guys are lying and stupid. They enter this influencer lifestyle as broke dudes building a fanbase off He-Man Woman Hater shyt. But the minute they get some money they immediately start pursuing the very women they criticize: porn stars, hoes, single mothers, career women, ditzy chicks, etc. That Fresh & Fit guy been fukking escorts and sugar babies in Miami for years and nobody cares. Because it was never about ostracizing "bad" women: it was about crying that you don't have access to them. And the minute they get access they switch up. And the audience doesn't punish them either - they welcome this behavior. Because getting chicks is all it's about. Hustle, gig culture, crypto, scamming, gambling, streaming...the goal is to get rich (quick) and get women. And the resentment builds because when you skip tried/true steps (like going to college, learning a trade, being a professional, etc) you end up behind your peers. Which is why these incels also hate "wage cucks" who work office jobs making six figures because apparently making 100k a year is humiliating slavery or something.

The women red pill/right wing/etc influencers run a similar game. They tell the world that no one values career women, nobody marries 30yo women, don't go to college, etc and then they ALL get married as college grad career women in their 30s.

I'll never forget the yacht party with 200 dudes, Onlyfans chicks, and escorts (all paid for).

Most pathetic shyt I've ever seen.

 

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I’m familiar with Myron
KS and Andrew tate
KS was the only one I watched regularly
But all Tate was doing was trying to appeal to men by acting like the celebrity they look up to and talking like the rappers they listen to. It’s a persona to appeal to the youth. His point was level up, get in shape and stop watching internet porn all day. He was t trying to get these men to have some damn confidence and stop putting the p*ssy on a pedestal.

In the 90’s and 2000’s most men talked like them so to act like they hate women in 2025 is wild to me.

KS regularly told me to get their shyt together and stop expecting women to come to you and stop thinking you deserved it. Again what’s wrong with that? All the other shyt y’all be mentioned be rumors and hearsay

Any man that is well into adulthood needs to be told that women will not just come to you have other problems going on. That's common sense.

Keep yourself groomed, be a decent person, and learn how to hold a conversation will get you far not just with the opposite sex but in building genuine friendships.

 

[kingofnyc]

Do everyone that solid because you are a complete dumb ass who thinks its everyone else while adding zero.

The fact that you and others in here, keep saying I’m defending this cac red pill podcaster who I know nothing about with my OP saying he took an L … shows how reading and comprehension has failed y’all

with that said you should do yourself a solid and just put me on ignore

 

[Rayzah]

Any man that is well into adulthood needs to be told that women will not just come to you have other problems going on. That's common sense.

Keep yourself groomed, be a decent person, and learn how to hold a conversation will get you far not just with the opposite sex but in building genuine friendships.

Edit

I mean… I agree with the basic advice. Groom yourself, be decent, learn how to talk to people — that’s fine. But that’s exactly my point: if your advice is basically the same as what these guys say, then why are they “dangerous” but you’re not?

And if we’re being real, the reason so many dudes listen to Tate or whoever isn’t because they don’t know “common sense.” It’s because nobody in their real life is actually teaching them anything. No father, no mentor, no male role models just the internet. So they go to the loudest voice they can find.


And again, you’re giving me reaction videos chopped up by YouTubers with clickbait titles. That’s not context that’s commentary. I’d rather hear the full message directly than let another dude pause every three seconds to tell me his version of what was said.

At the end of the day, I’m not saying these guys are perfect. I’m saying there’s useful info in there, same as any self-help book. You take what’s helpful, leave the rest, and keep moving.

Acting like the entire message is trash while you say the same exact things in calmer wording… come on.

The delivery might be different, but the core principles aren’t.

 

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Edit

I mean… I agree with the basic advice. Groom yourself, be decent, learn how to talk to people — that’s fine. But that’s exactly my point: if your advice is basically the same as what these guys say, then why are they “dangerous” but you’re not?

And if we’re being real, the reason so many dudes listen to Tate or whoever isn’t because they don’t know “common sense.” It’s because nobody in their real life is actually teaching them anything. No father, no mentor, no male role models just the internet. So they go to the loudest voice they can find.


And again, you’re giving me reaction videos chopped up by YouTubers with clickbait titles. That’s not context that’s commentary. I’d rather hear the full message directly than let another dude pause every three seconds to tell me his version of what was said.

At the end of the day, I’m not saying these guys are perfect. I’m saying there’s useful info in there, same as any self-help book. You take what’s helpful, leave the rest, and keep moving.

Acting like the entire message is trash while you say the same exact things in calmer wording… come on.

The delivery might be different, but the core principles aren’t.

I presented videos that show how kids are taking in those messages.

If they were only presenting the basics that I mentioned then it wouldn't matter but they are wrapping it in this facade of either uber masculinity and living like wealthy playboy like Tate, or a brand built on putting down women.

 

[Rayzah]

nikka said let's debate, debate what???

you and the folk you look up to are weirdos. That is NOT debatable

All this “manosphere” stuff y’all keep complaining about literally comes from books like The Rational Male and The Art of Seduction. I’ve read them. Half the chapters are the same things dudes with actual experience say in real life.

These talking heads aren’t inventing anything new they’re just repeating ideas that have been around for decades. So calling everyone “weirdos” doesn’t change the fact that the concepts existed long before YouTube.

You might not like the delivery, cool. But the information is the same information

 

[Rayzah]

I presented videos that show how kids are taking in those messages.

If they were only presenting the basics that I mentioned then it wouldn't matter but they are wrapping it in this facade of either uber masculinity and living like wealthy playboy like Tate, or a brand built on putting down women.

I hear you, but reaction videos of kids misunderstanding something don’t make the message itself toxic. Kids misinterpret everything.

The core ideas guys like Tate talk about discipline, purpose, vetting partners, not being a pushover are the same things you find in books like The Rational Male or The Art of Seduction. The only real difference is the delivery.

And honestly, we sit on this forum every day debating random stuff with passion. We do the same thing at the barbershop every week. These dudes get online and do the same exact thing they just get paid for it. Since when does having a bigger following make you less credible?

My wife’s whole timeline is the female version of these creators. They react to clips, tell women how to live, and push their own worldviews. Are they toxic too, or do we only call it toxic when men do it?


I knew a guy who hated Charlamagne because he “stole his idea.” That’s the mentality a lot of this comes from people get mad that these creators get paid to do what everyone else does for free. And when someone talks for hours and hours online, of course you can find a clip to blow out of proportion.


Take what’s useful, leave the rest. Same rules apply everywhere

 

[Diunx]

I’m familiar with Myron
KS and Andrew tate
KS was the only one I watched regularly
But all Tate was doing was trying to appeal to men by acting like the celebrity they look up to and talking like the rappers they listen to. It’s a persona to appeal to the youth. His point was level up, get in shape and stop watching internet porn all day. He was t trying to get these men to have some damn confidence and stop putting the p*ssy on a pedestal.

In the 90’s and 2000’s most men talked like them so to act like they hate women in 2025 is wild to me.

KS regularly told me to get their shyt together and stop expecting women to come to you and stop thinking you deserved it. Again what’s wrong with that? All the other shyt y’all be mentioned be rumors and hearsay

This motherfukker really here defending a human trafficker

 

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I hear you, but reaction videos of kids misunderstanding something don’t make the message itself toxic. Kids misinterpret everything.

The core ideas guys like Tate talk about discipline, purpose, vetting partners, not being a pushover are the same things you find in books like The Rational Male or The Art of Seduction. The only real difference is the delivery.

And honestly, we sit on this forum every day debating random stuff with passion. We do the same thing at the barbershop every week. These dudes get online and do the same exact thing they just get paid for it. Since when does having a bigger following make you less credible?

My wife’s whole timeline is the female version of these creators. They react to clips, tell women how to live, and push their own worldviews. Are they toxic too, or do we only call it toxic when men do it?


I knew a guy who hated Charlamagne because he “stole his idea.” That’s the mentality a lot of this comes from people get mad that these creators get paid to do what everyone else does for free. And when someone talks for hours and hours online, of course you can find a clip to blow out of proportion.


Take what’s useful, leave the rest. Same rules apply everywhere

No offense but your inability to see the negativity and only see what you want shows how deep down the rabbit hole you fell. But to your credit you found a woman down there so

You can play that game of take the good and leave out/ignore the bad from vile people but that is also how we gotten to the point where people are normalizing far right lunatics.

 

[Rayzah]

No offense but your inability to see the negativity and only see what you want shows how deep down the rabbit hole you fell. But to your credit you found a woman down there so

You can play that game of take the good and leave out/ignore the bad from vile people but that is also how we gotten to the point where people are normalizing far right lunatics.

No offense, but this idea that “if you don’t reject everything a person says, you’re deep in a rabbit hole” is exactly the black-and-white thinking I’m talking about. Life isn’t that simple.

You’re acting like if someone makes one point you disagree with, the whole message is suddenly poisonous. That’s not how real life works. Everything from politics, relationships, self-help, religion, money, whatever has shades of gray and requires actual understanding. You don’t throw out the whole thing because you disagree with one section.

My point isn’t “ignore the bad.”

It’s stop dismissing entire ideas based on the loudest or worst parts.

That’s surface-level thinking.

If something has value, I’m going to acknowledge the value. If something is trash, I’ll call that out too. I’m not joining a side or a team I’m using common sense.

Nuance isn’t falling down a rabbit hole.
Nuance is just… thinking.

 

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No offense, but this idea that “if you don’t reject everything a person says, you’re deep in a rabbit hole” is exactly the black-and-white thinking I’m talking about. Life isn’t that simple.

You’re acting like if someone makes one point you disagree with, the whole message is suddenly poisonous. That’s not how real life works. Everything from politics, relationships, self-help, religion, money, whatever has shades of gray and requires actual understanding. You don’t throw out the whole thing because you disagree with one section.

My point isn’t “ignore the bad.”

It’s stop dismissing entire ideas based on the loudest or worst parts.

That’s surface-level thinking.

If something has value, I’m going to acknowledge the value. If something is trash, I’ll call that out too. I’m not joining a side or a team I’m using common sense.

Nuance isn’t falling down a rabbit hole.
Nuance is just… thinking.

The thing is that you don't have to follow them. You can get real advice that isn't attached to incendiary speech just from speaking to other men in real life.
The red pill to maga pipeline is a thing for a reason and we saw it in full display last year.
I don't listen to lifestyle podcasts but I've read that there are podcasts that are about positive masculinity.