"Redman really only had two good albums, Docs da name was wack" Doggie Diamonds

[Taadow]

You kinda hit the nail on the head with the Luda reference. Red clearly had a huge influence on him. Em too. I fukked with Docs Da Name tho. He was starting to become a caricature of himself but he was spitting all over the album

Agree. And like...I didn’t care that it was cartoonish, I was in HS at the time so was I. Lol

But I get how somebody who might be older who was rockin’ to Rugged Red to not feel it.

The only album I didn’t really like from him was Malpractice. It already didn’t feel right because the release date was in the summer like 3 years after the last album. I was used to Red dropping fourth quarter every other year. The album had no focus at all. Red Gone Wild was dope af to me tho

You know what - I haven’t listened to Malpractice in full to this day.
I just didn’t know what I was gonna get. I heard a couple of records off it that was like
gritty hardcore - Muhfucca, Uh Huh, the cut with Face, Treach, and Jamal...but then I heard
the cut with Missy (which btw sounded just like Ghost’s cut with Missy), and I saw on the tracklist
he was killing off Soopaman Luva, and he had the midget nurse and Plush Red on the artwork,
and I just didn’t know what I was in for there.

And because of that, I slept on Red Gone Wild - which I agree was dope.
That shoulda got more push because it was bumpin’.
But I understand that was during the LA Reid/“Jay ain’t supporting the legacy acts” era at Def Jam.

 

[Animal House]

Worst opinion of the decade so far

 

[Tres Leches]

 

[Zero]

docs da name wasn't that great but at least it didn't bore me like MW did

I will NEVER understand the MW hype breh shyt didn't hold my attention at all compared to the first two it was fukking dull

Go listen to Heavy Metal or some shyt. Hiphop ain't for you. Go back to your roots

 

[zayk35]

I've always been meh on Redman.....he's just a more lyrical Biz Markie to me personally. He has couple joints like but mostly "that shyt don't bump in da trunk" to quote the famous Texas scholar Pimp C.

 

[Renegade47]

Muddy Waters got him the gold and DTN got him the platinum. That's what he was after. Does the blackout count?

im after the gold then after that the platinum

 

[Renegade47]

Music has become worthless to the average consumer. You can pay $10 a month and have access to almost everything or work a little harder and find everything for free. Feel like you used to learn more about it and appreciate it and respect it more when you had to spend time and money to acquire it. Even if you were dubbing and bootlegging shyt that was still a commitment of time and money.

And now any dumbass with a webcam or an internet connection has a voice. And get rewarded for saying the dumbest or most controversial shyt possible

you were more likely to sit with the album you bought too. like that bytch stayed in the CD Player in the whip for weeks type shyt.

i remember buying TPAB and it didnt leave my cd player in the whip for months. now 100 albums drop every friday. and you can listen to em all. too much access no time to digest

 

[TripleAgent]

He was great technically. I'm talking about the bars. Treach just wasn't the guy who made you hit rewind or had crazy lines quotables. Red is known for stand out lines and he's no slouch technically. Red best verses still hold up today. Treach's don't.

I don't want to downplay Treach. But this is my take. He was doing some incredible MCing, but a LOT of NBN music doesn't hold up. Too many commercial joints and filler IMO. Mad rappers were biting him and influenced by him. He wrote a LOT of joints back then, too.

I rank Mreck and Doggie diamonds between Akademiks and that white dude who like rappers with tattoos on their face. Just cause they come from certain backgrounds, certain eras, talk with a certain accent they get a lot of passes for being trash with their clickbait asses

Absolutely not. Can't speak for MReck, but Doggie's Hip-Hop credentials are iron clad.

Who the fukk is doggie diamonds?!? another no name new trap music scrub ???

Was signed as a teen as DJ/producer of the group Little b*stards

Tour DJED for Lil Kim

Recorded one of the first demos for neighborhood rapper "Fat Chris". Mr. Cee gets a hold of it, gets him hooked up with Puffy...the rest is history.

Helped Foxy Brown and her brother Gavin in the early days

Studied under Easy Mo Bee and others

He was damn near Forrest Gump of Brooklyn Hip-Hop in the early 90s. He was around for all sorts of shyt.

 

[-Quikness-]

Why is this even news tho? Who the fukk is this guy, really? He’s just another man like all of us on here with an opinion. Fukk his opinion

 

[-Quikness-]

I don't want to downplay Treach. But this is my take. He was doing some incredible MCing, but a LOT of NBN music doesn't hold up. Too many commercial joints and filler IMO. Mad rappers were biting him and influenced by him. He wrote a LOT of joints back then, too.

That first naughty by nature album is a timeless classic front to back tho, you can’t deny that?

 

[Ziploc]

First three albums are bonafide classics imo. I do agree that he kinda lost his edge and the rhyme schemes became stale after DTN. He can still rap with the best of them but he dumbed down a lot after Muddy Waters which disappointed a lot of his fans and I kinda stopped checking for him after that decline. I think him not doing certain drugs anymore influenced that too.

 

[tuckgod]

I've always been meh on Redman.....he's just a more lyrical Biz Markie to me personally. He has couple joints like but mostly "that shyt don't bump in da trunk" to quote the famous Texas scholar Pimp C.

Negged.

 

[tuckgod]

Some great talk going on in here

 

[FreshAIG]

That first naughty by nature album is a timeless classic front to back tho, you can’t deny that?

And I believe their other albums hold up simply because the rhyming was advanced. Most of those Treach verses would be fire verses in 2021 from a technical perspective, and he was rapping about shyt.

"Oh how, oh how come every time we have problems they nix none
Sending people to other planets when they still ain't fixed this one?
Victims from a distance, predictions of affliction
Some factions cause frictions so fractions need fixing
Mixing, making music, man, to make it work
Some sticking, shakin' bruisin' damn just to break a purse
It's worse, misguided some guttered
Locked on the block 'cause the cops can't be trusted
Busted, flustered, frustrated, frustrations of no more patience
Insides are cold and vacant, check how we lay it
Why when we speak, they try to stifle our breath?
Cock a rifle to chest, then ya have the party of ya life at ya death"

 

[HARLEM AL]

You're bugging. fukk unique, Treach was legit arguably the best MC in the game at one point. Saying he's nowhere near Redman talent wise is complete nonsense. Treach literally had crazy wordplay, flow, delivery, cadence, song making ability. If you prefer Redman, that's cool, I did too. But to deny that Treach was one of the illest MCs of the 90s means you're either uninformed or lying.

Maaan, I’m going disagree on this. To me that nikka was just aight. nikka was fu snhickens with no shirt on, bandana and black Shades.


fukk that Apache>> Treach