Redman speaking the truth on def jam

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they're doing him dirty but Redman is kind of talking like a hoe at this point (and i got love for red).
 

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dead @ Redman with his government name on a visitor pass :russ: could you imagine being famous and having some fukker at the security desk taking his slow ass time typing your name onto a visitor's label while reading your driver's license
 

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dead @ Redman with his government name on a visitor pass :russ: could you imagine being famous and having some fukker at the security desk taking his slow ass time typing your name onto a visitor's label while reading your driver's license


Thats what gets me..he helped them build that label.. fukk def jam for this
 

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How you figure?
he's basically saying "I made you this hot, you wouldn't be shyt if it wasn't for us" and all that which he is right but Def Jam doesn't owe him shyt. He signed a contract, as long as both parties are respecting the terms of that contract, Def Jam doesn't owe him anything extra. He feels entitled to certain things but that's not how it works.

EDIT: and don't get me wrong, i'm not defending def jam's shytty behavior towards him. fukk them still. what i'm saying is that red should focus on finding a way to get what he wants out of defjam or sign to a new label.
 

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he's basically saying "I made you this hot, you wouldn't be shyt if it wasn't for us" and all that which he is right but Def Jam doesn't owe him shyt. He signed a contract, as long as both parties are respecting the terms of that contract, Def Jam doesn't owe him anything extra. He feels entitled to certain things but that's not how it works.

EDIT: and don't get me wrong, i'm not defending def jam's shytty behavior towards him. fukk them still. what i'm saying is that red should focus on finding a way to get what he wants out of defjam or sign to a new label.
Even if he did sign a contract there is still a thing called professional courtesy which seems to be completely lacking from def jam
 

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Even if he did sign a contract there is still a thing called professional courtesy which seems to be completely lacking from def jam
you're right. it is lacking. What i'm saying is that it's not "owed". It's a bad look for Def Jam and shows they lack loyalty but if Redman thinks because he did XYZ in the past he is entitled to be treated a certain way in the present/future, then he is playing himself hard. Heck, is it even the same people at the top of the company from when he signed? :ohhh:

This whole thing is about what have you done for me lately can you do for me now? this is true in business, love, etc.
 

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"Def Jam lost they soul
They forgot how to build a artist, so I gotta show 'em"

(always been one of my fav budden tracks)

plus i'm pretty sure ll had a diss to def jam on that unreleased album of his

they seem like they can be a pretty shady label. must be the reason warren g left.
 

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you're right. it is lacking. What i'm saying is that it's not "owed". It's a bad look for Def Jam and shows they lack loyalty but if Redman thinks because he did XYZ in the past he is entitled to be treated a certain way in the present/future, then he is playing himself hard. Heck, is it even the same people at the top of the company from when he signed? :ohhh:

This whole thing is about what have you done for me lately can you do for me now? this is true in business, love, etc.

Exactly. People always be mad at the label, but damn near NOBODY from his prime years at Def Jam are still there. These ain't people whose jobs he's actually impacted one way or another. Def Jam is just the name of the label and the company, but the staff ain't the same staff that was there in '92, '96, or even 10 years ago. The current staff doesn't even have much of a history with him, and not a profitable one for sure. Russell, Lyor, Liles, Lighty, Tracey Waples... all them people done moved on. He should probably do the same at this point. It's like being the star of your high school basketball team 20 years ago, and going to your school today and bein' surprised that none of the teachers know who the hell you are.
 
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