Big C Style talked about it on Bomb 1st
Reggie Wright JR. and Mob James join Doggie Diamonds "Digital Soapbox" podcast network
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I always thought he was full of shyt since he only started "talking" because puffy wasn't paying him or that he wanted more money. I know he was really out there, but I think he lies, a lot.
@Bigsuk You know anything about this brother here? Started body guarding and driving suge around during the early death row days (was fukking with dikk griffey as well) He's former East Coast or Kitchen Crip? Got knocked in 91-92, came back out in the early to mid 2000's and continued working for Suge
I asked Gangster Chronicles to have him on but I haven't heard back.
Suge wasn't about gang banging like Mob James was, I feel like Suge was outside and knew people in the neighborhood, but wasn't doing drive-bys and selling crack. Suge was in school playing sports and then went to college and his momma would trip if he was outside loitering. I said this before but I feel like Suge would slap, knock out or trip on someone because he wanted to, not because he was repping the hood or doing something "on piru"Bombfirst reposted an old interview from MOB member Biggie. Good to hear someone else’s perspective of Suge, who is from the Mob, besides James.
Now MOB Biggie does say some things that differ from a James. Biggie says Chocolate definitely wrote Ice Ice Baby, while Mob James was on Vladtv saying Chocolate had nothing to do with it.
Mob Biggie and Suge lived on the same street, 2 houses away from each other. He said that although Suge went to school and played football, he was always claiming the hood. He said he wasn’t as active as they were, but he did bang, and he’s seen him go up against some crips back then (that were related to Biggie). Again, someone like James will give you a completely different impression, like Suge was on some Chris Brown shyt.
Mob Biggie said after Suge was done with the UNLV shyt, he was in the hood and told him he was putting a label together. He told him to grab the homies and they went out to eat. He said Suge gave everyone an option asking “who wants to rap? Who wants to make beats? etc.” Again, this differs from James, who said Suge came to him and he introduced him to everyone.
Talk about Ray J smashing Tiny and Keisha Cole. Said Ray J was with some fine ass chick, Suge whispered in her ear, and she went with Suge back to his room.
Said Ray J was smashing a 300 lb white girl.
I wouldn't say he's outright lying about that Suge/Wolf drink together, I think it's possible. Gene doesn't seem like a liar to me, more like someone who is emotion based and jumps to conclusions. He takes events he sees and tries to put 2 and 2 together a lot, but his math is all fukked up lol.
It seems like the narrative "Wolf killed Jake" was out there simply because that's the only person people associated with Puffy at the time as his muscle. But Diddy had a lot of goons around him during the early BB era. It could've been anyone. It might not have been someone that close to him, could've been loosely associated but you know how that goes. Suge comes back home and has to tell his people why Jake got killed on your watch, and I'm sure Suge blamed it on Bad Boy as a whole, which lead to people thinking Wolf did it.
And yeah that second part is really where I think Gene is off. Biggie wasn't an assassin hit, and just because you saw a dude with a bowtie prior to Biggie getting killed doesn't mean he's the one who pulled the trigger. Like you stated he merely could've been a lookout, an associate or it was just a random dude. I'd venture to think there were probably a few Muslim security people there that night.
There was always 2 names brought up to who actully killed big jake ... it was either wolf or some cat named Jason brown who was real tight with wolf .....mark Curry’s book dancing with the devil he said it was Jason brown , I read dexter Issacs book aswell and he said there wasn’t any real proof wolf did it .... Jason brown got killed in a shoot-out with the police .....doesn’t really matter at this point big jake , wolf and Jason brown all dead so it is what it is ..... and yeah I did always think the noi/foi did have some minor involvement in bigs murder (not amir Muhammad/David Mack etc) somewhere down the line ..... Tammy Hawkins went to the party but left quick so she couldn’t have Been the look out for biggie to get killed .... deathrow was their that night so I can imagine it was some deathrow females or something .... if it was 100 % poochie he was a solo type cat didn’t hang with the other deathrow soilders like that ..... and by this time he wasn’t cool with George Williams n them like that .....
Na dont know nothing about him ..... 1 person I would love to know what she’s doing these days is that black female lawyer who suge and Dre we’re using on the early days of deathrow Angela Wallace ... she paid a hitman to clip 2 brothers for life insurance or some shyt like that ..... crazy !!!
Lol that’s a good way to put it. I would expect somebody that had a career in law enforcement to be more logical and have better critical thinking skills. Maybe that’s why he was only ever a probation officer.
I never understand why people say Biggie and Pac’s murders were professional hits. It doesn’t take police training to pull up next to somebody at a stoplight and start dumping.
Always sad when Warren gets asked about Dre/Snoop not wanting him signed to Death Row, and he's just left clueless as to why
It really is. I’m glad he was able to become very successful on his own.
Lol pacs drive -by is sloppy as fukk baby lane shot that bmw up 14 times n only got 4 shots arguably 5 on target if u wana count suges bullet graze to the head .... most unprofessional infamous drive -by shooting ... biggies wasn’t either ..
i mistakenly read this comment as a statement instead of a question and wasted a bunch of time skipping around the podcast to find the chain snatching part
this articleis from photographer that saw what happened
Photographer Details Jimmy Henchman-Suge Knight Confrontation Before Shooting
jimmy henchemen street lieutenant who cooperated working for jimmy also cooperated taking orders to shoot Suge that night . since he cooperated, he has to confess to all his crimes
article in red ink below:
Cocaine Trafficker Cops To Shooting Suge Knight
NOVEMBER 12, 2013
- Celebrity, Crime
Cocaine Trafficker Cops To Shooting Suge Knight
Rap mogul was targeted at 2005 Kanye West party
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Suge Knight Shooting
"NOVEMBER 12--A cooperating witness has told federal investigators that he shot rap mogul Suge Knight at a 2005 party hosted by Kanye West at a swanky Miami Beach hotel, The Smoking Gun has learned.
The shooting of Knight, founder of L.A.’s Death Row Records, was allegedly ordered by James "Jimmy Henchman" Rosemond, the New York music manager who was sentenced last month to life in prison for heading a cocaine trafficking ring.
Knight was sitting at a VIP table inside the Shore Club hotel when a black male approached and opened fire, hitting him once in the upper right leg. Knight, 48, was rushed to a local hospital where he underwent surgery to remove the bullet and repair a broken bone. Knight is seen above being placed into an ambulance by Miami Beach paramedics.
Following the August 2005 shooting, screaming guests fled the star-studded, late-night party, which was hosted by West in advance of MTV’s Video Music Awards ceremony the following evening. Police told reporters that their investigation was hampered by the unwillingness of witnesses to speak with them.
Now, eight years later, federal investigators have been provided an insider’s account of the shooting of Knight, a central figure in the 1990s East Coast-West Coast rap feud that likely resulted in the murders of Tupac Shakur and Christopher Wallace, the rapper known as The Notorious B.I.G..
Mohammed Stewart--a longtime Rosemond associate (and admitted cociane trafficker)--has copped to shooting Knight, claiming that he targeted the “rival rap producer…at Rosemond’s behest,” according to investigators. The witness has recently told federal investigators that Rosemond--who attended the Westparty--provided him with the gun he used to shoot Knight.
Immediately following the shooting, Stewart reported, he and Rosemond fled the Shore Club together, adding that Rosemond (seen at left) paid him $10,000 for the shooting (the motive for which is not further detailed by federal officials).
Stewart, 36, is referred to as "CW-3" (confidential witness-3) in the document.
Stewart was a member of Rosemond’s narcotics operation for more than a decade, and participated in a series of violent acts directed at associates of the rapper 50 Cent’s G-Unit crew. The rap world beef was prompted by business disputes between G-Unit and Rosemond’s Czar Entertainment.
As part of that turf war, Stewart carried out a March 2007 razor attack on the brother of Chris Lighty, 50 Cent’s business partner. In retaliation for the assault of Rosemond’s 14-year-old son, Rosemond associates carried out the September 2009 murder of Lowell Fletcher, a G-Unit associate who had been previously convicted of attacking the teenager. According to a government filing, a cooperating witness reported that Rosemond said he would not rest until “members of G-Unit were ‘carrying a coffin.’”
Stewart is one of several former Rosemond associates expected to testify during the murder-for-hire case, which is scheduled to open November 18. In addition to details of the Fletcher murder, prosecutors want the witness to testify about other violent acts that Rosemond participated in or ordered. Such evidence would demonstrate that “Rosemond entrusted the Government’s witnesses to do his violent dirty work,” prosecutors contend.
Regarding the involvement of “CW-3” in the Knight shooting, government lawyers argue that the incident “is crucial to show the strong and trusting relationship between CW-3 and Rosemond that ultimately led Rosemond to include CW-3 in his conspiracy to assault and kill members of G-Unit.”
The cooperating witness has told federal officials that “the first time he did anything illegal for Rosemond” was around ten years ago, when Rosemond asked him to help “frame” his wife on a gun charge. At the time, Rosemond was reportedly involved in a “domestic dispute” with his spouse.
Unable to get into the woman’s vehicle, "CW-3" instead “put the firearm under the car, in order to please Rosemond.” The court filing does not indicate if the “frame” attempt caused any legal difficulties for Rosemond’s wife. (3 pages)" -
i doubt it was because of Jack cause Haitian Jack moved to LA hence why he got deported for shooting someone in the stomach at a nightclub in LA. also he was more into the nightlife scene not the typical hood hiphop scene as most people think. Haitian Jack was not rocking with Jimmy Hencemen in fact his interviews on gullytv and old interviews he wasnt no fan of jimmy henchemen. jack and jimmy said negative stuff towards one another over the years.so i dont see them cool like that post pac shooting. not sure their fall out but i dont think Suge had issues with Jimmy because of jack.
on youtube old interview posted on Combat Jack Show lil shawn " also known as shawn pen" who was supposed to rap with 2pac in quad studio had a good detailed interview . im surprised he didnt give that much details in his recent drink champ interview. Jack did said some disrespectful to Lil Shawn last year.
that last year interview of Reggie interviewing Gene before their fallout and before Reggie went to prison Gene said Wolf was next to Suge the night Jake got killed. \
i dont see where Gene said he was with Wolf drinking after Jake got shot. Gene admitted he was not there that night. im ot saying whoever told gene the Jake story is true or not but maybe it was another bad boy affiliate that did the shooting allegedly but for everyone else said it was Wolf then....
also at that time Bad Boys pre Big Meech days and slightly during early Big Meech days in Atlanta. Wolf hosted Bad Boys parties promotion so he was known so im assuming folks recognize who the shooter was.
Gene on that Bomb1st interview with Reggie last year before Reggie went to prison, Gene said how come Peterson Musuem that show case million dollar cars in its museum downtown LA why dont police show the cameras and around the museum or across the street.
Gene also said Lil Cease told him it was a guy looking like a muslim that shot the car and gene describe to Lil Cease the exact guy. as far as professional goons. i dont think it was so. the shots werent coming from long distance . However, Im more inclined to believe all of the information from Greg Kading to be honest. Also , all of this reinforces the mistakes Death Row has done with all the infighting and tactics that Suge part of that led him to be blackballed after he left prison and hard for him to get back in the swing of things. you cant run a company like that and expect to be in staying power as the rest of the industry will box you out. hence why Jimmy Iovine has no problem doing business with Diddy and Dre after Death Row.
Someone mentioned that Zip took the bread that Diddy was suppose to give to Keefe D to open a nightclub in Harlem . its a good possibility however, Zip was already wealthy.
mike tyson can attest to that