Remeber the breh shot in the head by the chick playing with his gun on livestream?

[Benefited]

You should sign up for a firearm education class or training class. It'll help you with some of your questions as well as some of the things you assume.

Anything other than safety is negligence. If you assume that the firearm is loaded that means each and every time you pick it up, even if it's in your possession and you set it down then immediately pick it back up, you make sure to check that via divine intervention, Jesus or magic that bullets didn't magically appear in the gun and regardless of its current status, loaded or unloaded you treat it as if it is fully loaded. Anything else, any assumption, confidence or security is negligence.

Anyone who knows anything about guns will say you should ALWAYS treat it like it's loaded such as don't point it towards yourself or others and practicing good trigger discipline by keeping your finger off the trigger unless you plan to use it.

The purpose of this advice is given regardless if it's actually loaded or not. The purpose of this thinking is one, to develop a habit of treating a gun for what it is which is an instrument that can take a life easily and develop good habits outside of when you actually use it. Two, also like you said mistakes can happen so this is more of a reason why you should always treat it as loaded because you can think it's empty when it's actually not and this shyt can happen.

I hope you realize you're actually making the case yourself that if anything this is more evidence she be charged with some form of criminal negligence because this accident happened in the first place by not practicing basic safety of treating a gun as being always loaded.

I understand the purpose of them saying that,and I don't mind it as a rule. Its said to treat a gun that way because most people don't truly cross their t's or dot their i's,as we can see in this situation. Before being cool letting her play with his gun he should have made SURE it was empty. Being 100% sure is the only way because things happen as a gun owner,and you have to account for people who don't know about guns or about that rule,or children for god sake. Should children or ignorant people be expected to know or follow such a rule?.FOr me its the responsiblity of the gun owner to be positive their guns are empty,be positive their guns are locked away securely. You guys are proving my point by saying anything CAN happen. Whats more likely than jesus or magic putting a bullet in your gun,is one day you let your guard down and are careless and you are somebody dies because of it. Which is exactly why YOU as the gun owner need to KNOW your gun is empty like you THINK it is. We are saying the same thing,you are just putting more responsibility on people who don't know about guns and didn't bring a gun into the situation around people who don't know shyt about guns and may take your word for it when you say its empty.

Are we saying Bruce Lee son who was in The Crow is at fault because he didn't make sure the gun he was using on set wasn't blanks like he was told?of course not.

 

[Dr. Acula]

Are we saying Bruce Lee son who was in The Crow is at fault because he didn't make sure the gun he was using on set wasn't blanks like he was told?of course not.

Is she a movie star with trained individuals on set whose job is to perform these kind of checks? Rule of thumb, for the average person, always treat the shyt like its loaded. Never point a gun like a fukking idiot at another person's head much less pull the trigger unless you plan on using it. This is pure stupidity to the point that if someone did this shyt to me, I'd have to try real hard not to beat the shyt out of them and never talk to them again. shyt isn't even debatable in my opinion.

There is no excuse for this type of carelessness and she should rightfully face punishment. It's not just a "mistake".

I understand the purpose of them saying that,and I don't mind it as a rule. Its said to treat a gun that way because most people don't truly cross their t's or dot their i's,as we can see in this situation. Before being cool letting her play with his gun he should have made SURE it was empty. Being 100% sure is the only way because things happen as a gun owner,and you have to account for people who don't know about guns or about that rule,or children for god sake. Should children or ignorant people be expected to know or follow such a rule?.FOr me its the responsiblity of the gun owner to be positive their guns are empty,be positive their guns are locked away securely. You guys are proving my point by saying anything CAN happen. Whats more likely than jesus or magic putting a bullet in your gun,is one day you let your guard down and are careless and you are somebody dies because of it. Which is exactly why YOU as the gun owner need to KNOW your gun is empty like you THINK it is. We are saying the same thing,you are just putting more responsibility on people who don't know about guns and didn't bring a gun into the situation around people who don't know shyt about guns and may take your word for it when you say its empty.

Lets say they both should be punished equally for this. She isn't a child, and being ignorant isn't excuse for wrong doing. There are a lot of ignorant ass people out there doing ignorant ass shyt who rightfully get punished for the ignorant ass shyt they do.

 

[Wildin]

. Should children or ignorant people be expected to know or follow such a rule?.

Yes. It's the most basic rules of them all. You shouldn't wait until your child burns there hand on the stove before you teach them "this is hot, dont touch!"

I'm a firm believer that basic firearm education needs to be taught in public schools. Iowa has already implemented that state wide for middle schools .

People need to know the different between a "magazine" and a "clip". People need to know how to check and how to clear a firearm. People need to know how to unload a firearm. I'm not saying people need to go to the range and shoot, not at all but the very very basics, what is a firearm, what are the different types, what are the basic components, how to check, clear and unload.

If Brandon Lee knew they weren't using a prop gun like one that did not have real components such as a firing pin or a bb gun painted black. Then before shooting that scene or any other he should've said let me check it out, or the person/people in charge should've been firing and testing before the shot.

You're right the dude did make a critical mistake by assuming and not checking and even if he did check once he handed it over she shouldve been educated enough to know to check and clear for herself regardless of what she saw or was told.

You watch people give you your change when you buy something right? They don't just hand you a handful of bills and coins and say " youre good". You either watch them count and to make sure there's no slight of hand shyt, you often review it before you put it in your pocket or wallet .

 

[Benefited]

Yes. It's the most basic rules of them all. You shouldn't wait until your child burns there hand on the stove before you teach them "this is hot, dont touch!"

I'm a firm believer that basic firearm education needs to be taught in public schools. Iowa has already implemented that state wide for middle schools .

People need to know the different between a "magazine" and a "clip". People need to know how to check and how to clear a firearm. People need to know how to unload a firearm. I'm not saying people need to go to the range and shoot, not at all but the very very basics, what is a firearm, what are the different types, what are the basic components, how to check, clear and unload.

If Brandon Lee knew they weren't using a prop gun like one that did not have real components such as a firing pin or a bb gun painted black. Then before shooting that scene or any other he should've said let me check it out, or the person/people in charge should've been firing and testing before the shot.

You're right the dude did make a critical mistake by assuming and not checking and even if he did check once he handed it over she shouldve been educated enough to know to check and clear for herself regardless of what she saw or was told.

You watch people give you your change when you buy something right? They don't just hand you a handful of bills and coins and say " youre good". You either watch them count and to make sure there's no slight of hand shyt, you often review it before you put it in your pocket or wallet .

Strongly agree more education is needed since they are handing out guns like candy in this country. But knowing there is very little education given,and we live in a society where people don't respect guns like we should. If a gun owner is going to bring a gun around people who may not have that respect,I place more responsibility on them. Same responsibility as having a car,sure you can expect for everybody to all know the rules and follow them,and respect the fact they are driving a massive piece of steel moving at 50 mph at all times. But you have to expect for people to do dumb shyt while driving,so its best to be a defensive driver. So I just think you need to be a defensive gun owner. Its an even worse scenario because in the case of driving,because people have more education on driving and the rules of the road,even if they don't drive. Plus people are just more afraid of cars than they are guns,most people aren't going to hop behind the wheel of a car if they dont know how to drive. Yet people will gladly pick up a gun and wave it around and play with it. Just a lack of awareness to go around,hopefully one day they will put fingerprint identification or pin numbers on guns like they have on phones as a safeguard.

 

[Wildin]

If a gun owner is going to bring a gun around people who may not have that respect,I place more responsibility on them.

So I just think you need to be a defensive gun owner.

Plus people are just more afraid of cars than they are guns,most people aren't going to hop behind the wheel of a car if they dont know how to drive.

While owners are ultimately responsible. Unless the gun is on their person at all times the responsibility falls on the person who finds it, picks it up, shoots it, accidently shoots it or whatever. You can blame them two ways. 1. Don't touch the gun at all. Or have the education and know how to check, clear and unload.

People aren't afraid of cars. As many safety awards and commercials there are and are built into cars, there are more people afraid to fly and plane accidents don't even happen that much.

The problem with cars which is another reason they've toned down production and distribution of "super cars" which aren't even super cars is because people obtained them and injured or killed themselves. I'm not talking porsches and ferraris. I mean Nissan 300zx rear wheel drive twin turbos, 240 so rear wheel drive, all wheel drive Mitsubishi eclipses with turbos. Toyota supra, Mazda 5 speed and 6 speed turbo cars meant for sport. You can get turbos as a stock feature in cars but it's more of a sport accessory to a luxury or boost of power package to cars nowadays. But in the 80's and 90s these were sport packages and they were wildly affordable.

People's go from driving a front wheel drive automatic and hop into a 5 speed rear wheel drive with more than 110 horsepower and crash within 5 minutes once that ass kicks out from behind them.

People watch movies and TV, play some video games and don't realize that driving is a serious skill and all vehicles are different. Cars are different from trucks, suv, vans, rear wheel drive , front wheel drive, all wheel drive, differences in horsepower, automatic transmission, manual transmission, etc.

Cars are dangerous in their own right but there is so much education, training with cars, plus watching adults drive everyday for 13 years before you hopefully take drivers ed, sinks in before you steal a car, take keys and drive, text while driving, drink and drive, smoke while driving, eat and drink while driving, put on makeup while driving.

If there was even a quarter of the education, training, exposure and immersion of firearms as there is cars tens of thousands injuries and deaths would be prevented each year .

 

[Brock Landers]

Don't ever let dumb chicks play around with guns...My ex found my swords and started playing around with it I was like... that aint a fukking toy...

My breh really got whole swords in his house Breh gonna be fukkin around trying to get his star wars light saber shyt on and slice off some fingers

Also glad this man survived, I hope people use this as a reminder as to what can go wrong with weapons