Remember when cats were HEATED when JayZ's Hard Knock Life got 4.5 mics?

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Because that's when you started seeing the playing field get manipulated with BS.


X and Outkast had the bigger year, but somehow the Jiggaman was king.

This was also around the time when Angie blatant dikkriding was so unbearable. :scusthov:
 

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Bought that shyt twice and gave it away twice. shyt was trash... I thought I was just hating the first time out.
 

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Because that's when you started seeing the playing field get manipulated with BS.


X and Outkast had the bigger year, but somehow the Jiggaman was king.

This was also around the time when Angie blatant dikkriding was so unbearable. :scusthov:

:wtf: outkast wasnt even a factor.

master p, DMX & jay-z were the kings of '98.

volume 2 is an era-defining album.
 

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Everyone loved that album,

MTV even call it a classic album
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I know old heads calling it Jay-z's best album.

Every song was some type of hit, street hit, lyrical hit, posse cut hit,
but strip club hit, commercial hit and on.



Only the "real hiphop" cats where hating on it and as we all know they're in a incredibly small minority.

(too young to confirm this)

:snoop: :snoop: :snoop: :snoop:

this is why hip-hop is dead. these kids are not consistent. even in his own assessment of history he contradicts himself saying he was too young to confirm strip club (21 yrs) but old enough to say MTVs word is gospel.

news flash kid; MTV ain't been credible since yo mtv raps that was like 94 when you were on formula.

vol 2 ain't close to jays best cuz his best was reasonable doubt.

also just cuz defjam/roc milked the album for FIVE singles doesn't mean every song was a "hit"

I love how in this day and age words like REAL get put in quotations as if the word doesn't define itself.

we are REAL, if you weren't around you were FAKE

no offense but that'd be you.

the real hip-hop heads were souped by kid capris track and fake heads thought money cash hoes was a classic. again the latter would be you.
 

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generally speaking, it was just the internet-types & hippity-hoppity cats that was hating on this album.

volume 2 became thee album when it dropped. literally everybody and their moms had it. and most of the songs were actual hit records.

if you personally didnt like the album, then youre entitled to your opinion. but alot of this other stuff dudes is talking in here is :usure:-status

this chit was an event.
 

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i think that jay may have had a run for the worst albums to drop consecutively back to back though. the volume series was terrible. all of those albums were hot garbage. there's only a handful of good songs from all those volume records. just because something is commercially successful doesn't mean that it's good. the thing too is jay even admits that most of his albums were weak sauce too on the black album and that he intentionally did that shyt. that's what gets me. he could have put out a good record if he wanted to BUT he knew that making pop style music generated dollars.
 

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generally speaking, it was just the internet-types & hippity-hoppity cats that was hating on this album.


this chit was an event.

generally speaking you sound like a kid who should just hush up.

you werent on the internet back in 98 on forums so dead that. and if "hiphoppity" is under diss like "real hiphop heads" then heres some food.

babies cant tell grown men about the past, they can only grasp at others memories.
 

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^^:childplease:

im 27 years old and was on the internet long before '98. as far back as prodigy & macintosh. dont get me confused with you sucka-duck @$$ dudes that aint seen nothin.

if what i said hurt your feelings, then thats your problem.
 

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Vol 2 Is a classic. Has to be one of the best "commercial" rap albums other than Life After Death

Hard knock life
nicca what nicca who
money cash h#s
can i get a
reservoir dogs
its alright
money aint a thang

All those hits on one album. This album had ish on lock when it came out
 

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this is why hip-hop is dead. these kids are not consistent. even in his own assessment of history he contradicts himself saying he was too young to confirm strip club (21 yrs) but old enough to say MTVs word is gospel.

news flash kid; MTV ain't been credible since yo mtv raps that was like 94 when you were on formula.

vol 2 ain't close to jays best cuz his best was reasonable doubt.

also just cuz defjam/roc milked the album for FIVE singles doesn't mean every song was a "hit"

I love how in this day and age words like REAL get put in quotations as if the word doesn't define itself.

we are REAL, if you weren't around you were FAKE

no offense but that'd be you.

the real hip-hop heads were souped by kid capris track and fake heads thought money cash hoes was a classic. again the latter would be you.
real hiphop heads, you know that it's a ironic term for geeked out old ass haters right? And of course I wasn't 21 in 1998, I'd be Larry Holmes status by now. And the people at MTV giving these classic statements are the same cats that has been in hiphop since it started. Sway gathered all the OG's in the game, no jewish influenced Source Magazine dudes. OG's that will even make you look like a lil b stan.

And I don't give 2 fukks about the album you think is best, I say I know a lot of old heads who think it's the best. You can't prove that RD is his best album, so don't act like you can. Even if most OG jay fans would agree.

And just cause I was too young to confirm what the fukk cats thought in the strip club, I'm too young to know what people thought about the album? And whoever said MTV was Gospel, it's all opinions, I mentioned a lot of points if you read my posts you would see this being said "not very relevant but it indicates that it was extremely successful on all levels in other words."

And of course last, different types of hits. Doesn't mean billboard hits, I meant hottest posse cut, hottest urban radio singles, hottest technical tracks, hottest pop-radio tracks, hardest street joints, hottest ballin tracks in the streets and the list goes on. He was active on all fronts, that's why the east coast loved him like god, bestides the few corny ass Nas and Wu-tang stans. Even though Wu > Roc, the stans are fukking corny.

Imo it's not a top 5 Jay album maybe #6 , but still a great album. I'm not the cat too hate on shyt cause it isn't classic.
 

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:wtf: outkast wasnt even a factor.

master p, DMX & jay-z were the kings of '98.

volume 2 is an era-defining album.

Outkast wasn't a factor :whoo:

Aquemini and Hard Knock Life, both came out the same day.

Both sold over 500,000 copies, of course with :scusthov: selling more thanks to Def Scam.

:comeon: there's records, and TRL clips of this. It was even deemed an epic day for Hip-Hop.

Of course I was riding with 'Kast. :jawalrus:
 
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