Remember when Jay Z started calling himself William H. Holla?

[hoodheronova]

Correct me if im wrong, but im pretty sure William H. Holla was said back in 2000 and Iceberg Slim might've even started before that. So unless you're talking about when Roc actually broke up, then you're off.

nah I'm not off. When do you think the Roc started breaking up? Think about it...It wasn't when the public became aware of it. Like I said Jay z plays chess

 

[blackslash]

I hate that this nikka just sits around and thinks of ways to shyt on jigga at random.

If I ever run into OP I'ma put these hooves on him.

Repped

 

[Indiglow Meta (R$G)]

nah I'm not off. When do you think the Roc started breaking up? Think about it...It wasn't when the public became aware of it. Like I said Jay z plays chess

He called himself "iceberg slim" on "so ghetto"....before a lot of the roc was even down, brehbreh.
"Iceberg...slim, baby ridin rims".
So ghetto was on Vol 3...."The Roc" didn't appear until Dynasty.

 

[hoodheronova]

He called himself "iceberg slim" on "so ghetto"....before a lot of the roc was even down, brehbreh.
"Iceberg...slim, baby ridin rims".
So ghetto was on Vol 3...."The Roc" didn't appear until Dynasty.

Dame and Jay were already feuding at that point. Try again

 

[Indiglow Meta (R$G)]

Dame and Jay were already feuding at that point. Try again

During Volume 3? Before Cam was signed? You're reaching hard to prove your point.

 

[hoodheronova]

During Volume 3? Before Cam was signed? You're reaching hard to prove your point.

Cam signging and eventually being offered vice president was basically the pennicle of the feud between Jay and Dame, but their beef goes way back. Instead of Cam being your defining moment, it really should be the introduction of Lyor Cohen into Jay and Dame's relationship

 

[Still FloW]

cant be worse than ''Euro Hov''

 

[Viva]

William H Wallace

 

[LiIZaneFan1978]

He called himself "iceberg slim" on "so ghetto"....before a lot of the roc was even down, brehbreh.
"Iceberg...slim, baby ridin rims".
So ghetto was on Vol 3...."The Roc" didn't appear until Dynasty.

That line was from Who You Wit (1997) if that helps your timeline at all

 

[OnlyInCalifornia]

I wish someone could ask DJ Clue why he started to do it too

 

[AMcV'88]

Hovy Allen.

 

[scorpino]

cant be worse than ''Euro Hov''

Shytt was so bad they only played it once

 

[Indiglow Meta (R$G)]

Cam signging and eventually being offered vice president was basically the pennicle of the feud between Jay and Dame, but their beef goes way back. Instead of Cam being your defining moment, it really should be the introduction of Lyor Cohen into Jay and Dame's relationship

Lyor Cohen was a Def Jam exec before Backstage even came out.

 

[Indiglow Meta (R$G)]

That line was from Who You Wit (1997) if that helps your timeline at all

TRUE...Premier scratched in it...

 

[Goat poster]

Jay, Clue, and another rapper ( can't remember dude name)all came up with it TOGETHER.

THe Holla fam
JAy : WIlliam H
Clue: William M
Other dude : William P