Remember when Jay Z was still trying to act like he is powerful enough to kill trends?

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jay does not have one certified classic. he has 1 arguable classic, RD. People really need to pump there breaks with that word.

Get all the way the fukk out of here. The Booth is fukking garbage and posts like these and the 21 weirdo dumbasses who dapped it are exemplifications of that fact :pacspit:
 

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When I first heard that shyt, I was like "this bold ass muthafukka" :skip:

Hov saw how auto tune had to potential to kill off black music. He failed in that, but killed T Pain career.

That Jim/Juelz/Ron Browz joint was tight, but that was right before trap beats killed off everything. :scusthov:


jay doesnt care about the bolded breh.

hes one of the main reasons why hip-hop is in the state that its in.
 
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2001? No. Doggy Style would have been a better selection than those 2.

Capital Punishment has bad skits, a pointless intermission, the joint with Joe, and wyclef is on the album. as good as the good was, it is filled with unnecessary shyt.

Reasonable Doubt you can make a case for, but RnB rap hold's its back. The Blueprint was mostly hype because Jay used soul samples, despite SC coming out over a year before. The Black Album was hyped because jay was supposedly leaving rap. Once you take that away and just peep the album, It's not all that. Now are they good albums? yeah. classic/genre defining? no

Tupac has a bunch of individual classic songs, but an undisputed classic album? MATW is the closest.

LOL @ all balls don't bounce. NO. I've never heard A Book Of Human Language in full, so i can't say.


MATW is a bonafide classic.

So is Makaveli & All Eyez On Me.


Personally, Until The End Of Time, Still I Rise, and Better Dayz are classics to
 

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Well if the question is "can jay z rap" then the answer is absolutely. But for me GOAT for hip hop has a bit to do with keepin it 100 to the integrity of the fabric which hip hop derived from. In no way can I give this guy a single point in that category. And this is a major category that people over look or simply replace with sales and financial matters. But the thing is only one guy taught you that sales and financials added up the the best mc...and that guy was J himself. Big never equated album sales to the best mc nor did rakim, krs1, big daddy, nas or any other mc that could be considered top dog...no, only jayz brainwashed you into creating the requirements for top mc to look like what his resume has. It is a cunning marketing job...but some hip hop heads know better. Dude is nice, but he grabbed the corporate end of the hip hop wagon to "preach he was number 1" based on superficial worldly american standards. His album sales are a direct link to the power of marketing material and a superficial public. Whereas rakims album sales can be attributed to a public that was listening for deep message lyrical ability and delivery and personal persona. Jay is clever and is a top 7 mc in my book but he's not nicer than all IMO. After big and PAC the music industry realized the amount of hype they could generate from the public....before that hip hop marketers had NO CLUE....


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Appreciate it breh...but really I'm no jz hater(not saying you are)...but in my heart of hearts I know Jay got a lot of nikkas hooked with the material elements of life and the over all weakness of the culture at the time. I appreciate the entertainment he gave....but considering the selling out, the constant hustle message(even tho he did it so u wouldn't:comeon:) and the fact that he was CLEARLY old enough to understand how empty his content was , as admitted by he himself ("I would've prolly rhymed mo like talib kwali")...I gotta deduct points for it...and he knows the points should be deducted too:manny:
 

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Early 2000s had some of the worst fashions.


It's so funny that shyt died down once I became an adult hahha. Back then nikkas would be 36 rocking size 42 platinum fubu jeans, 5xl jersey under an a 60 pound avirex jacket.

I see old pics of myself, and I was rocking all that shyt in high school, thinking that I was fresh.
 

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Appreciate it breh...but really I'm no jz hater(not saying you are)...but in my heart of hearts I know Jay got a lot of nikkas hooked with the material elements of life and the over all weakness of the culture at the time. I appreciate the entertainment he gave....but considering the selling out, the constant hustle message(even tho he did it so u wouldn't:comeon:) and the fact that he was CLEARLY old enough to understand how empty his content was , as admitted by he himself ("I would've prolly rhymed mo like talib kwali")...I gotta deduct points for it...and he knows the points should be deducted too:manny:


yup

and more importantly, i gotta deduct points for all the backdoor political chit he pulled that hindered the game.
 

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Well he did kill off Autotune for a lil while.... And you can't like that shyt wasn't necessary at that time.

But he did kinda kill nikkas wearing Jerseys and nikkas drinking Cristal
Nah, people were still using autotune heavy even right after he dropped DOA.

Also, him killing Jerseys was like a decade ago.
 
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