Remember when the Coli thought Jabari Parker > Julius Randle?

[Bilz]

Laker fans don't just stan all Laker players, that ain't how it works. Quite a few fans hate Clarkson, all of used to hate Smush/Kwame, and some people even didn't like Pau.

You can't just say we support Randle because he's a Laker when history shows us that Laker fans don't just stan all things Laker.

Lakers fans hated their own players if they did anything to slight Kobe. They consistently overrate their players as long as it didn't detract from Kobe's praise. Im pretty sure there was a thread about Ebanks being better than Durant.

 

[CantStop]

Lakers fans hated their own players if they did anything to slight Kobe. They consistently overrate their players as long as it didn't detract from Kobe's praise. Im pretty sure there was a thread about Ebanks being better than Durant.

Ebanks did shut down KD in that double overtime game.

 

[Newzz]

@ the thought of gil having 4 friends.



Matter of fact, does Parker even have 4 fans? Think about it brehs, if this thread didn't exist and LWO wasn't giving this kid some relevance, he'd get absolutely no shine on the Coli. No one would make threads about him, no one would talk about him, no one would notice him. Hell, even @Malta and @Gil Scott-Heroin have said they ain't even real fans of him and @Bilz is only here to hate on the Lakers. This guy ain't got ANY fans. And what does that tell you? That tells you he ain't shyt. Every other young upcoming star has plenty of fans from Embiid to Towns to Wiggins to Porzingis, etc. This guy ain't got shyt because he AIN'T shyt. This is a fact no one can dispute. :shrugkobe:

Pretty much

 

[Bilz]

Ebanks did shut down KD in that double overtime game.

And Harden and Fisher shut Kobe down for a whole playoff series

 

[Newzz]

It's all relative. Meanwhile you rock brain ass nikkas keep going on about bu-bu-but Randle is averaging more assists while playing less minutes, failing to realize that even with Jabari playing more minutes - Randle still handles the ball more.

i) I'm not going through every players TOP and assist rate
ii) What would listing a top-10 prove? The top 5 players in assists are: Harden, Westbrook, LeBron, Wall and CP3 - all players that have a main scoring load - their time of possession isn't just for passing, but for scoring too. A more accurate (yet not perfect) take would be to find out how much production each player generates (through assists and points) in relation to how long they have the ball in their hands, obviously with the appropriate context of teammates, role/workload, scheme and efficiency.

At a surface look, their numbers look like this:

For every minute Jabari has the ball in his hands he generates 11.5 points and 1.3 assists
For every minute Randle has the ball in his hands he generates 6.4 points and 1.7 assists

Your stat holds 0 weight...that's why you won't tell us who the Top 10 is "For every minute they handle the ball" and SHOW WHERE you got this info from with a link


This is reaching absurd levels of debating now

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Your stat holds 0 weight...

It holds more weight than whatever the fukk y'all simple ass nikkas are arguing in here.

.that's why you won't tell us who the Top 10 is "For every minute they handle the ball"

In order to get a top 10 you'd need to go through every player's time of possession stats and then go through their assists. I worked out Jabari's and Randle's by doing this - there isn't a stat category that does this for you. Never mind the fact that you need to take into account each player's scoring production as well.

SHOW WHERE you got this info from with a link

The fact you don't even know shyt like this is readily available for public use on NBA.com shows you need to go and sit down somewhere.

This is reaching absurd levels of debating now

It certainly is when yall rock brain ass nikkas are arguing against a player y'all don't even watch.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

I can't believe folk are so stupid that they think just because a player is on the court for longer that it automatically means they have the ball in their hands more too.

 

[Dwight Howard]

I can't believe folk are so stupid that they think just because a player is on the court for longer that it automatically means they have the ball in their hands more too.

this is just desperate at this point...you're the only one arguing this point, mainly to detract from the REAL point.

youre not slick

I dont see why its so hard to conceede Julius is a superior playmaker

youre out here empty-handed...no arguments, no stats that hold weight, no nothing

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

this is just desperate at this point...you're the only one arguing this point, mainly to detract from the REAL point.

youre not slick

I dont see why its so hard to conceede Julius is a superior playmaker

youre out here empty-handed...no arguments, no stats that hold weight, no nothing

i) He's not the superior playmaker
ii) Whatever margin you think is in his favor for playmaking doesn't even begin to make up the difference that Jabari has on him on offense

 

[Newzz]

In order to get a top 10 you'd need to go through every player's time of possession stats and then go through their assists. I worked out Jabari's and Randle's by doing this - there isn't a stat category that does this for you.

So...you making up stats?



WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

 

[Newzz]

this is just desperate at this point...you're the only one arguing this point, mainly to detract from the REAL point.

youre not slick

I dont see why its so hard to conceede Julius is a superior playmaker

youre out here empty-handed...no arguments, no stats that hold weight, no nothing

This dude calculating his own stats now in order to say JaSorry is better....we can't make this up

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

So...you making up stats?



WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

Every single stat is made up, it's important to apply context to all of them - which is exactly what I'm doing. That's why they're there for. Why is this so hard to understand? You don't think it makes sense to see how long a player has the ball in their hands during a game? You'd rather just look at how long they're on the court for, and disregard the amount of time they have the ball in their hands?

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

This dude calculating his own stats now in order to say JaSorry is better....we can't make this up

It's not about calculating my own stats - it's about using the #s available to piece together who is more productive. Why is this so hard for you to understand?

You don't just look at who's scoring the most points and automatically think "oh he must be the best scorer in the league "

 

[Newzz]

Every single stat is made up, it's important to apply context to all of them - which is exactly what I'm doing. That's why they're there for. Why is this so hard to understand? You don't think it makes sense to see how long a player has the ball in their hands during a game? You'd rather just look at how long they're on the court for, and disregard the amount of time they have the ball in their hands?

It's not about calculating my own stats - it's about using the #s available to piece together who is more productive. Why is this so hard for you to understand?

You don't just look at who's scoring the most points and automatically think "oh he must be the best scorer in the league "

Create your own stats brehs

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Looking forward to Donovan yelling at his players to pick The Limited Lefty up as soon as his dumb ass grabs a board and tries to push it. If Lakers can't beat a defense up court to avoid executing halfcourt O against a set D, that shyt is like watching 5 incredibly stupid cats play with a ball of yarn.

shyt is already happening.