Remember when the Coli thought Jabari Parker > Julius Randle?

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#1 options don't come off the bench:sas1:


Randle was the #1 option vs the Bulls :sas2:


Secondly, you and Malta said we cant compare Randle's numbers to Jabari's, because Parker was a #2 option being gameplanned for while Randle wasn't.........but now, you wanna compare a game where Randle was the #1 option, being gameplanned for, vs Parker's, as a sidekick being carried by Giannis once again, numbers. Where's the consistency?:mjpls:


Lastly, when it comes to last night's Bucks/Nets game, I told you last year, I watch every single NBA game....just like you do:mjgrin:


If you gonna use my name @ me, and you asked if Jabari's 22/3 game was better, actually yeah it was, Randle's 13/20 game against the Bulls actually made his PER drop and his already terrible rim protection numbers rise. You remember PER right? You were using it earlier. You remember +/- you were using it earlier too, right? He posted a negative 5 that game while Bari had a +10 vs the Nets.

You conveniently leave out he shot 4-13 and had 5 turnovers. I can see people not @'ing me anymore, so I'll skim this thread but if I see my name :birdman:
 

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If you gonna use my name @ me

Why would I tag you in when Im talking directly to your apprentice?:mjpls:


If you want it...you can get it too though:obama:


@Malta :mjgrin:


and you asked if Jabari's 22/3 game was better, actually yeah it was

Actually it wasn't, because by your OWN criteria:


Malta said:
Nah, Jabari is dealing with being a 2nd option on offense and defenses game planning for him
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One is a 2nd option, the other is a 4th option and you have the nerve to compare their percentages as though their roles are the same


Why are you cosigning that game as being better when Parker was the #2 option to a game and Randle was the #1 option...as though their roles were the same?:sas1:



Randle's 13/20 game against the Bulls actually made his PER drop and his already terrible rim protection numbers rise. You remember PER right? You were using it earlier.

When did I ever use a PER rating in this thread for either of them?:mjpls:



Are you attributing quotes to me that don't exist Wilt?:sas1:



I think so:sas2:



You remember +/- you were using it earlier too, right? He posted a negative 5 that game while Bari had a +10 vs the Nets.


Again....where was I using +/- in this thread accept to laugh at JaSorry posting a negative in a blowout win:sas1:


I was using it because I posted a ":russ:" or asked your backup singer to confirm whether a post was correct or not?:jbhmm:


That's good to know and to be used in future conversation:sas2:

You conveniently leave out he shot 4-13 and had 5 turnovers. I can see people not @'ing me anymore, so I'll skim this thread but if I see my name :birdman:


So we only going by FG% and turnovers now huh?:jbhmm:



Also...again:


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One is a 2nd option, the other is a 4th option and you have the nerve to compare their percentages as though their roles are the same


:mjgrin: at you having the nerve to compare their percentages as though their roles were the same in their last game:mjgrin:
 

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Why would I tag you in when Im talking directly to your apprentice?:mjpls:


If you want it...you can get it too though:obama:


@Malta :mjgrin:




Actually it wasn't, because by your OWN criteria:






Why are you cosigning that game as being better when Parker was the #2 option to a game and Randle was the #1 option...as though their roles were the same?:sas1:





When did I ever use a PER rating in this thread for either of them?:mjpls:



Are you attributing quotes to me that don't exist Wilt?:sas1:



I think so:sas2:






Again....where was I using +/- in this thread accept to laugh at JaSorry posting a negative in a blowout win:sas1:


I was using it because I posted a ":russ:" or asked your backup singer to confirm whether a post was correct or not?:jbhmm:


That's good to know and to be used in future conversation:sas2:




So we only going by FG% and turnovers now huh?:jbhmm:



Also...again:





:mjgrin: at you having the nerve to compare their percentages as though their roles were the same in their last game:mjgrin:

Get what too? A ton of smilies used as fillers because you don't know what you're talking about, or odd reply structure in which you try to break down every single thing I say and make it difficult to read?


Now Randle was a number 1 option in a game where a dude off the bench took 18 shots and led them in scoring? I can't even believe some of the ish yall come up with. I can just say Jabari was the number 1 option, now what, I know damn sure you didn't watch the Nets vs Bucks game, since we can just make shyt up on the fly now.

You don't use +/- though.....
How does someone get a -2 when they blew a team out and said player is in the starting lineup? :scust:


There is no measure by which Randle's game was better, it wasn't more efficient, he wasn't as good offensively or defensively other than what you feel or try to apply stipulations that don't exist (Ie. Randle being a first option). Ok, lets say he was a first option for that singular game, I'll even give you that 1 game, but then logic would dictate that you need to stop arguing about who is better because Jabari has been a 2nd option all season while the dude you're trying to say is better is defined as a 3rd or 4th option, PERIOD. So which is it @Newzz, you can't claim Randle's been a 1st or 2nd option on the season because we know he's not, but you want to use it in an argument over 1 game? What holds more weight, 1 game or the season......hit the showers breh :camby:
 

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Get what too? A ton of smilies used as fillers because you don't know what you're talking about, or odd reply structure in which you try to break down every single thing I say and make it difficult to read?

It's difficult to read?:jbhmm:


That explains why it's so hard for you to understand why you're losing badly in this thread:mjgrin:


Now Randle was a number 1 option in a game where a dude off the bench took 18 shots and led them in scoring? I can't even believe some of the ish yall come up with.

Total FG attempts is the deciding factor for you of whether a player is the #1 option or not huh?:mjpls:


Interesting, I'll keep that in mind:obama:





I can just say Jabari was the number 1 option, now what, I know damn sure you didn't watch the Nets vs Bucks game, since we can just make shyt up on the fly now.

You cant say Jabari was the #1 option, because I seen the game:mjlol:


I watch every single NBA game....just like your sidekick does:mjgrin:




You don't use +/- though.....


I don't:umad:


What you posted, was a RESPONSE from me to a post by @I.AM.PIFF stating JaSorry had a negative in a blowout:


I only see his foot on your neck, beloved :hubie:

12/10/3 in only 22 mins for young JuBo after a few missed games, meanwhile the Bucks beat easily the Cavs but cheese boy bari still has a negative -/+ :hubie:
How does someone get a -2 when they blew a team out and said player is in the starting lineup? :scust:



But, of course, providing the FULL context of a quote is something you two are unable to do....so I had no problem doing it for you:umad:



That's not me "using +/-"....that's me being :scust: at a stat that was posted in regards to JaSorry Parker:ufdup:




There is no measure by which Randle's game was better, it wasn't more efficient, he wasn't as good offensively or defensively other than what you feel or try to apply stipulations that don't exist (Ie. Randle being a first option).

He was the 1st option. Bench players are not 1st options.


JaSorry had a better scoring game, but according to your own statements: "you have the nerve to compare their percentages as though their roles are the same".....so why are you conveniently forgetting your own mantra?:sas2:


13 points, 20 rebounds, 2 assists, & 2 steals isn't a better game than 22 points, 3 rebounds, 2 assists, & 1 steal?:jbhmm:


Randle literally did everything else better than Parker (outside of scoring)......and did it as the #1 option with no ATK commanding the attention beside him:mjgrin:



Ok, lets say he was a first option for that singular game, I'll even give you that 1 game, but then logic would dictate that you need to stop arguing about who is better because Jabari has been a 2nd option all season while the dude you're trying to say is better is defined as a 3rd or 4th option, PERIOD.

Nope:umad:


Im using your own logic against you....you and Marty Janetty running around in this thread dismissing Randle because "their roles aren't the same", but as soon as Randle is the #1 option, yall quick to STILL compare numbers even after going on record trying to say that we couldn't do that.




So which is it @Newzz, you can't claim Randle's been a 1st or 2nd option on the season because we know he's not, but you want to use it in an argument over 1 game?

Yep:mjgrin:


What holds more weight, 1 game or the season......hit the showers breh :camby:


Are we discussing their last game or the entire season?:sas1:



I could've swore we were talking about their last game:sas2:


Or maybe that was too difficult for you to read:mjgrin:
 

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What the hell are you even saying in this post? It's not just about him being bigger, it was because he was more athletic too. The combination of the two meant he could simply get by with his physical gifts against lesser opponents, rather than using actual skill. Since he doesn't have that advantage in the league, his lack of skill is being exposed. This is basketball 101 and it's hilarious how you won't acknowledge this.

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HANDLING THE BALL HAS NOTHIN TO DO WIT SIZE AND SUPERIOR ATHLETICISM LOL .. EITHER U CAN OR U CANT. AND RANDLE HAS ALWAYS BEEN A BALL HANDLER. THATS ALL THERE IS TO IT.

I ALSO DONT KNOW WHATS SO HARD TO BELIEVE BOUT A FAN WATCHIN EVERY GAME, BUT ILL TAKE THE FACT THAT U DONT BELIEVE ME AS ANOTHER W
 

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It's difficult to read?:jbhmm:


That explains why it's so hard for you to understand why you're losing badly in this thread:mjgrin:




Total FG attempts is the deciding factor for you of whether a player is the #1 option or not huh?:mjpls:


Interesting, I'll keep that in mind:obama:







You cant say Jabari was the #1 option, because I seen the game:mjlol:


I watch every single NBA game....just like your sidekick does:mjgrin:







I don't:umad:


What you posted, was a RESPONSE from me to a post by @I.AM.PIFF stating JaSorry had a negative in a blowout:







But, of course, providing the FULL context of a quote is something you two are unable to do....so I had no problem doing it for you:umad:



That's not me "using +/-"....that's me being :scust: at a stat that was posted in regards to JaSorry Parker:ufdup:






He was the 1st option. Bench players are not 1st options.


JaSorry had a better scoring game, but according to your own statements: "you have the nerve to compare their percentages as though their roles are the same".....so why are you conveniently forgetting your own mantra?:sas2:


13 points, 20 rebounds, 2 assists, & 2 steals isn't a better game than 22 points, 3 rebounds, 2 assists, & 1 steal?:jbhmm:


Randle literally did everything else better than Parker (outside of scoring)......and did it as the #1 option with no ATK commanding the attention beside him:mjgrin:





Nope:umad:


Im using your own logic against you....you and Marty Janetty running around in this thread dismissing Randle because "their roles aren't the same", but as soon as Randle is the #1 option, yall quick to STILL compare numbers even after going on record trying to say that we couldn't do that.






Yep:mjgrin:





Are we discussing their last game or the entire season?:sas1:



I could've swore we were talking about their last game:sas2:


Or maybe that was too difficult for you to read:mjgrin:


Yes, it makes the posts entirely too long, even worse with the overuse of the smileys for filler.

:dead: So now you're lying about the games you watch, we went over this already, you acting like I don't know you breh we been at this for years now -

As far as basketball, I talk about who I watch...Lakers, Cavs, Warriors and whomever they play.


You only watch nationally televised games but feel the need to speak on players, you did this with Porzingis too.

No, 5 turnovers and 4-13 isn't better, which is exactly why his PER dropped :russ: You can post those numbers all you want, his efficiency numbers got worse because of that game and his rim protection which was already the worst among starters got even worse. You're not using anything against me, you're trying to use 1 game, while ignoring the entire season in which Jabari has been a 2nd option to Randle's 3rd/4th option. This thread isn't about 1 game, it's about their seasons, you stay trying to make things into something they're not.

If you want to say he was a first option for 1 game, you have to acknowledge that Jabari has been a 2nd option for the entire season and you're just typing to see yourself type at this point. YOU'RE the one trying to use that 1 game as a first option as a means to say who is better, while ignoring that Jabari has had a more demanding role for the seaosn, now let me add some smileys at the end for filler :umad: :mjgrin: :lolbron::blessed:


And yeah, the way in which your replying is :scust: it makes the post longer than it should be.
 

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Yes, it makes the posts entirely too long, even worse with the overuse of the smileys for filler.
I'll take this into consideration for further discussions:obama:


:dead: So now you're lying about the games you watch, we went over this already, you acting like I don't know you breh we been at this for years now -

That was last year...ironically last year to this date:wow: Since that time, I have acquired NBA League Pass thru TWC...and I make it a point to watch as many Parker & Mudiay games as possible (which is why Mudiay stans stand 0 chance this year:ohlawd:), as well as my Lakers & Cavs, and any other top performers.:ehh: I don't watch every single NBA game....Im lying about it just like @Gil Scott-Heroin:manny:


You only watch nationally televised games but feel the need to speak on players, you did this with Porzingis too.
I watch the Knicks as well...but they aren't high priority for me. Too many games come on at the same time:yeshrug: When Knicks are playing and it's a light schedule, I'll catch a few of their games. I think I've only seen them about 2 or 3x this year:manny:

No, 5 turnovers and 4-13 isn't better, which is exactly why his PER dropped :russ:

I don't use PERs breh...you know that:ufdup:

You can post those numbers all you want, his efficiency numbers got worse because of that game and his rim protection which was already the worst among starters got even worse.
Julius Randle had a better game than Jabari Parker. I cant believe my brother, the POST GAWD Wilt Chamberlain, is disrespecting a PF having a 13-20 double/double in favor of a 22-3 performance from a fellow PF:mjcry: Yes, Jabari scored better....but literally, that's it:heh: He did nothing else outside score and even THAT's a luxury, because he's playing next to a guy who commands all eyes at all times....a guy I need to add to my stanning stable...ATK:banderas:


You're not using anything against me, you're trying to use 1 game, while ignoring the entire season in which Jabari has been a 2nd option to Randle's 3rd/4th option. This thread isn't about 1 game, it's about their seasons, you stay trying to make things into something they're not.
I was tagged in this thread today to discuss Jabari's last game...not his overall season:sas1: Why would I skip the reason I was tagged in here to just talk about Randle is still better (which is what this thread is about...who's better parker or randle)?:dwillhuh: Why, that would be just.........rude
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If you want to say he was a first option for 1 game, you have to acknowledge that Jabari has been a 2nd option for the entire season and you're just typing to see yourself type at this point. YOU'RE the one trying to use that 1 game as a first option as a means to say who is better, while ignoring that Jabari has had a more demanding role for the seaosn, now let me add some smileys at the end for filler :umad: :mjgrin: :lolbron::blessed:

First off...:heh: at the ending sentence of this:russ: Secondly, and more importantly, I didn't use 1 game as a first option as a means to say who is better....I flipped and used your own logic to say how can yall compare a game where Randle is the #1 option to a game where Parker isn't, when yall complained about #LWO doing that exact same thing in this thread?:jbhmm: Which one is it?:mjpls:
 

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I don't watch every single NBA game....Im lying about it just like @Gil Scott-Heroin:manny:
I don't watch every single NBA game either, and I have NEVER stated so. Not only did you lie trying to imitate me, but you also lied about me saying I watched every game too. #LWO when does ya lies end? When does the truth begin?

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HANDLING THE BALL HAS NOTHIN TO DO WIT SIZE AND SUPERIOR ATHLETICISM LOL .. EITHER U CAN OR U CANT. AND RANDLE HAS ALWAYS BEEN A BALL HANDLER. THATS ALL THERE IS TO IT.

I ALSO DONT KNOW WHATS SO HARD TO BELIEVE BOUT A FAN WATCHIN EVERY GAME, BUT ILL TAKE THE FACT THAT U DONT BELIEVE ME AS ANOTHER W
Because I know you don't. You don't have to lie to kick it. :manny:
 

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I don't watch every single NBA game either, and I have NEVER stated so. Not only did you lie trying to imitate me, but you also lied about me saying I watched every game too. #LWO when does ya lies end? When does the truth begin?

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If I'm at work, I've got three monitors and I've got a laptop and extra monitor at the crib (and a tv for the national games). There's a lot of breaks (timeouts, dead balls, free throw attempts, subs etc etc) where you can juggle watching two-three games without missing "important action". Plus if two games are on at the same time and it's getting close to halftime (five or so minutes) - I switch to one and then when it's halftime I go back and watch the other last five minutes of the second half of the other game. When there's a bunch of games on, I'm usually 10-20 minutes behind them live so I can watch them. Plus not to mention, I watch games at the end of the night when they've finished.

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Julius Randle had a better game than Jabari Parker. I cant believe my brother, the POST GAWD Wilt Chamberlain, is disrespecting a PF having a 13-20 double/double in favor of a 22-3 performance from a fellow PF:mjcry: Yes, Jabari scored better....but literally, that's it:heh: He did nothing else outside score and even THAT's a luxury, because he's playing next to a guy who commands all eyes at all times....a guy I need to add to my stanning stable...ATK:banderas:

He's playing next to a guy that has to have the ball in his hands for the majority of the game because he's not yet a good enough shooter for Jabari to play on the ball. Again, what would happen if Julius had to play with Giannis, nobody in their right mind would think that would work because he can't shoot and he'd get in the way of what Giannis does, yall see what Jabari is doing and act like it's easy. He's learning how to play off the ball, next to a dude that requires him to become a better shooter than he ever needed to be. Why is it hard for you to believe I wouldn't rock with a PF that is horrific at guarding the rim, and shot 4-13? When are yall going to talk about how bad he is on defense, because he's absolutely terrible.



I was tagged in this thread today to discuss Jabari's last game...not his overall season:sas1: Why would I skip the reason I was tagged in here to just talk about Randle is still better (which is what this thread is about...who's better parker or randle)?:dwillhuh: Why, that would be just.........rude
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First off...:heh: at the ending sentence of this:russ: Secondly, and more importantly, I didn't use 1 game as a first option as a means to say who is better....I flipped and used your own logic to say how can yall compare a game where Randle is the #1 option to a game where Parker isn't, when yall complained about #LWO doing that exact same thing in this thread?:jbhmm: Which one is it?:mjpls:


Doesn't matter what you're tagged about if you're going to use that as the basis of your argument because you'd have to concede what this thread is about. So, which is it?
 

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"next to a dude that requires him to become a better shooter than he ever needed to be. "


holy fukk are these arguments ever atrocious. He's not even that good of a shooter, but it's laughable to suggest Parker didn't need to become a better shooter from the jump considering how little else he brings to the table. :mjlol:
 

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"next to a dude that requires him to become a better shooter than he ever needed to be. "


holy fukk are these arguments ever atrocious. He's not even that good of a shooter, but it's laughable to suggest Parker didn't need to become a better shooter from the jump considering how little else he brings to the table. :mjlol:


He's shooting 35% on threes, up from 26% last year, and he's going to need to be even better long term and become a consistent three point threat. If he were drafted by another team he'd be an attacking SF, not a player that needs to morph into a stretch PF, those were never the projections for him coming out of college.


Do you ever not talk out your ass? :jbhmm:
 
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