MischievousMonkey
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Is inflation accounted for in this sheet?
Reparation spreadsheet. :wow:
- Thread starter Tommy Knocks
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Breh...no..we would not get 20k a month. We'd get a one time payment.
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Brehs are still not understanding that there are more than 25million+ African Americans in the U.S.
Any "large check" for every black person would cripple the GDP.
Reality check - https://www.thecoli.com/threads/financial-reparations-mathematics-logistics-common-sense.694202/
Brehs...I'm going to be objective. I have questions. I've NEVER been a proponent of financial reparations. I've ALWAYS been a proponent of reparations in the form of services, subsidies, improved institutions & environmental changes in the communities that make up a large number of descendants of those who were enslaved & subject to Jim Crow laws(South) & Redlining(North).
However, brehs are hellbent on the "Either support the #AADOS position of financial reparations or fukk your c00n ass" type of stance.
Cool.
I need to know that the push for financial reparations aren't just an attempt at creating a goal that ensures the black community are forever angry about not obtaining.
So, I need clarity in order to support.
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The Numbers -
- Total U.S GDP - $15 trillion(+/-) as of 2010. Source: Google Public Data
- Total U.S Federal budget - 3.55 trillion(+/-) as of 2010. Source: GovInfo
- Total U.S Population - 308 million(+/-) as of 2010. Source: U.S Census Bureau FactFinder
- Percentage of U.S Population that identified as Black - 14%(+/-), which, in 2010, would total 43.1 million. Source: U.S Census Bureau
- Estimated Number of Americans who identified as having ancestry from Caribbean immigration as of 2010 - 2,672,753(+/-). Source: U.S Census Factfinder
- Estimated Number of Americans who identified as having ancestry from Subsaharan African immigration as of 2010 - 2,847,194(+/-). Source U.S Census Factfinder
That would mean, the estimate of Black Americans who are direct descendants of Africans brought to the U.S as slaves - [(Total Black Population)-(Total Blacks Americans w/ Caribbean or African Immigrant Ancestry)] - 43 million - 5.51 million =
37.5 million African Americans who would have a claim to U.S reparations for its role in the Transatlantic Slave Trade if going by AADOS requirements.
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Issue:
Okay, so, if my math is correct, if U.S reparations for slavery were given in 2010, the U.S would be required to divvy up a total compensation package among that 37 million.
Now...how much is this amount that we are talking about? The total GDP in 2010 was estimated at $15 Trillion.
The Federal spending budget was around 2.3 Trillion in 2010. Source: GovInfo(page 7).
What is the U.S Dollar worth if the Economy is crippled? I say that because, unless people are seriously considering a nuclear option of dedicating the U.S's entire GDP value to reparations, the compensation amount will be an amount that would probably make the actual individual reparations package meaningless in the grand scheme of having a goal of realignment of African American descendants of slaves.
Would $60,000 per AADOS be enough for the U.S to be able to say it's washed its hands clean of the blood of slaves? Would $60,000 per AADOS be enough for there to be a renaissance in the black communities of America leading to a big blow to the current instances of institutional racism that exists in the U.S? Would $60,000 per AADOS be enough to justify a hostile break in the nexus of unity between African Americans and other members of the African Diaspora?
Please, someone help explain how this works?
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To keep it a stack this would make the most sense because the government is not actually "giving" you anything. Most people who are pro reparations would say that welfare fukked up Black relations so if you just dumped a milly on each Black person a lot of nikkas would simply trick that money off. But if you could open a business and not have to pay taxes that would be huge.
The only downside is non net taxpaying Black people wouldn't get anything.
Nope. I remember that 20 stack check for Japanese internment That's literally the amount they got (I think some got more It probably depended on the amount of time they were interned)
Tommy Knocks
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UncleTomFord15
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nikkas in here thinking they're getting 20k a month
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How would this benefit predominately black areas in terms of school funding, roads, services, etc.?
nikkas in here thinking they're getting 20k a month
Most people are not serious minded.
They don't take even 1 minute to think about the actual mechanics of how all this would work
They just heard the word and once they understood its meaning they just start fantasizing. Like people do when Mega Mil is high and everyone is buying tickets.
I want a cash payment too, but I am realistic
Cel 510 kid ados forever
Veteran
how will we afford the green new deal or medicare for all if the government has to spend money or reparations?
This is why I give no fukks about none of these progressives. Black people should be getting that shyt first
fukk that inclusive bullshyt. This country never made shyt right.
Slavery, and jim crow alone has a larger history in this country than our own freedom.
The last known slave died only 48 years ago. SO ALL of our parents were alive when a former slaved walked on this soil. But slavery existed for 400+ years. Slavery ended in 1863, the 13th amendment wasn't ratified until 1965 but the civil rights act didn't pass until 1964! That's over 100 years. on top of the 400 of slavery.
5 centuries of fukk shyt. The suburbs and highway system was created so white people can get away from us. This shyt is disgusting
on so many levels.
This is why I give no fukks about none of these progressives. Black people should be getting that shyt first
fukk that inclusive bullshyt. This country never made shyt right.
Slavery, and jim crow alone has a larger history in this country than our own freedom.
The last known slave died only 48 years ago. SO ALL of our parents were alive when a former slaved walked on this soil. But slavery existed for 400+ years. Slavery ended in 1863, the 13th amendment wasn't ratified until 1965 but the civil rights act didn't pass until 1964! That's over 100 years. on top of the 400 of slavery.
5 centuries of fukk shyt. The suburbs and highway system was created so white people can get away from us. This shyt is disgusting
on so many levels.
saturn7
Politics is an EXCHANGE!!!
Why do people keep saying this like we don't have folks already establishing a criteria and proposals of the forms Reparations must come in?
The Economics of Reparations
(PDF) The Economics of Reparations
The 3rd paragraph on pg 336 breaks down the forms Reparations can come in.
It wouldn't everything is a trade off, but you also have to ask where's the benefit now? The worse road in a city that I've heard been on is the roads in 90% Black East St. Louis. You cross the bridge from Saint Louis and the road gets shytty.
And I've been on roads in the Carribean, Middle East and Africa.
And that paragraph explains and takes into account exactly what the breh is saying that you quoted.
Those are the options which beg for the conversation to be grounded in common sense. Upon further discussion, we would quickly realize that reparations coming in a check or not including a dedicated commitment to educating the large amount of African Americans on financial literacy would be doomed before it starts.
The whole goal would be to make sure the country DOES NOT get a get out of jail free card by being able to issue a check and feeling like they have washed their hands of it all.
It would be a perverse future that ends many people squandering a payout much like the average lottery winner or similar to athletes.
At the risk of sounding cliche...we don't want the U.S to give us a bucket of fish and call it a day. We NEED the U.S to give us the institutional and educational resources to be able to create a legacy of fisherman.
So, if it's not about pumping vast amounts into restructuring education and local institutions, reparations is DOA.
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It's from a book you didn't read dummy.What is that garbage in the OP
What facebook post did you grab that from, breh
I advise y'all to look deeper into the data on how reparations to those groups were dispersed, and understand the actual value (or lack thereof) brought to those communities. Someone already brought up the poverty cycles in Native communities.
A check is not the answer. And if you're willing to give away the last bit of political leverage we have for 20k...you're a fool and part of the problem
Stupid ass.
Damn this woman is fine. The smarts make her a perfect 10..