Replace Kobe With A Prime Pippen On Those Shaq Laker Teams

[Long Live The Kane]

Prolly one, the first one...the last two leaned HEAVILY on kobe and shaq being as dominant as they were...and pippen was never that type of scorer or closer that kobe was...the shaq/kobe lakers were way more top heavy than the mj/pip bulls were, the supporting cast outside of the duos weigh heavily in the bulls favor...pippen was a great player, but wasn't the type of guy that would destroy the duncan/robinson spurs with prime shaq and timmy playing in the series, and be the best player on the floor...during the last two shaq/kobe chips, kobe was basically doing everything pip was called to do in chi (initiate the offense and be the primary perimeter defender), AND drop 30plus on any given night and be the first option on offense in the 4th if the situation called for it...if the lakers had a supporting cast outside of their top two like the bulls had in '96-'98, they prolly win one or two more...they won like 2 ships with their 3rd best player being either fisher or horry

 

[Reggie]

Pippen didnt have that clutch gene that Kobe does so i cant say for sure that they would have won 3 in a row. They may have gotten one but even that wouldnt have been a guarantee. Taking nothing away from Pippen at all but i just dont know about him doing having some of the moments that Kobe did that helped them to get to the Finals.

 

[Goatpoacher]

Pippen didnt have that clutch gene that Kobe does so i cant say for sure that they would have won 3 in a row. They may have gotten one but even that wouldnt have been a guarantee. Taking nothing away from Pippen at all but i just dont know about him doing having some of the moments that Kobe did that helped them to get to the Finals.

If Pippen was playing, the lakers would not have needed clutch shots. Your statement is not based on actual data, either. Instead, it's based on a mythology built by kobestans about their false idol that tended to blow games more often then he won them.


It's also a lie to claim the lakers leaned on Kobe more in the 2nd two runs. Kobe leaned on himself and started ballhogging and cutting shaq out as much as possible after the first ring. Lakers used to have winning streaks without kobe playing.

 

[god shamgod]

If Pippen was playing, the lakers would not have needed clutch shots. Your statement is not based on actual data, either. Instead, it's based on a mythology built by kobestans about their false idol that tended to blow games more often then he won them.

Nah it's based off actually watching prime pippen in clutch situations

 

[HookersandIceCream]

You mean a old Pip, Prime Sheed, Damon Stoudamire, Pre Injury Brian Grant, Detlef, Steve Smith, Bonzi Wells, and a but effective Sabonis.

Don't forget Brian Grant and Greg Anthony
Amazing team on paper
One of my favorite teams

 

[Goatpoacher]

Nah it's based off actually watching prime pippen in clutch situations

You realize Kobe's clutch shooting has been terrible his entire career? That's what I was referring to.

As for Pippen, he played his entire prime with the GOAT taking all the last shots (or kerr or paxon)

 

[Trojan 24]

Don't forget Brian Grant and Greg Anthony
Amazing team on paper
One of my favorite teams

Well I forgot Greg, but how you miss me throwing in Pre Injury Brian Grant

 

[god shamgod]

You realize Kobe's clutch shooting has been terrible his entire career? That's what I was referring to.

As for Pippen, he played his entire prime with the GOAT taking all the last shots (or kerr or paxon)

It's not about stats or the last shot despite kobe's clutch %'s being low he's still one of the greatest clutch players ever he's made mad clutch shots in late games or ot there's several aspects in late game situations besides the last second.Pippen was not clutch it was to's,missed ft's,bad shooting etc

I'll give you an example Pippen missed 3 out of 4 ft's in game 4 of the 98 ecf in the last 2 mins which allowed reggie miller to shove da Goat out the way like a raging maniac and hit that game winning 3.I was pissed and wanted to smack the shyt out of pippen he stayed doin that type of stuff.Great overall player but he wasn't about that superstar life.Game 7 vs the knicks in 94 pippen had a nice stat line but was like 1-11 in the 2nd half and the bulls 4peat attempt ended

 

[Henryflo1]

Stop making threads fukk boy

 

[Reggie]

If Pippen was playing, the lakers would not have needed clutch shots. Your statement is not based on actual data, either. Instead, it's based on a mythology built by kobestans about their false idol that tended to blow games more often then he won them.


It's also a lie to claim the lakers leaned on Kobe more in the 2nd two runs. Kobe leaned on himself and started ballhogging and cutting shaq out as much as possible after the first ring. Lakers used to have winning streaks without kobe playing.

Without some of Kobe's heroics the Lakers wouldnt have even got to some of those Finals. That is factual actual data that i witnessed with my own eyes. And im far from a Kobe stan but he did win some games for them during the 3peat.

 

[MJ Freedom]

It depends who else you have, because if you're just directly replacing Kobe with Pippen, they MAYBE win one, POSSIBLY two just because Shaq was so dominant... but Kobe's scoring was incredibly crucial and couldn't be replaced by Pippen, and the rest of the roleplayers on that team weren't picking up the slack. Shaq needed to have somebody like Kobe who could take over the game on his own and score 30 any given night... Pippen couldn't do that, and you're not making up 30+ every night with Rick Fox, Brian Shaw, and Horry/Grant/Green/Medvedenko, you're just not.

 

[BXKingPin82]

what about a prime Brian Scalabrine?

 

[Goatpoacher]

Without some of Kobe's heroics the Lakers wouldnt have even got to some of those Finals. That is factual actual data that i witnessed with my own eyes. And im far from a Kobe stan but he did win some games for them during the 3peat.

Kobe was often the reason they needed late game heroics.

In the end, 6>5 :JJ:

 

[Goatpoacher]

It's not about stats or the last shot despite kobe's clutch %'s being low he's still one of the greatest clutch players ever he's made mad clutch shots in late games or ot there's several aspects in late game situations besides the last second.Pippen was not clutch it was to's,missed ft's,bad shooting etc

I'll give you an example Pippen missed 3 out of 4 ft's in game 4 of the 98 ecf in the last 2 mins which allowed reggie miller to shove da Goat out the way like a raging maniac and hit that game winning 3.I was pissed and wanted to smack the shyt out of pippen he stayed doin that type of stuff.Great overall player but he wasn't about that superstar life.Game 7 vs the knicks in 94 pippen had a nice stat line but was like 1-11 in the 2nd half and the bulls 4peat attempt ended

Forgot you were a bulls fan.

Here's the problem with the idea of "clutch". If a player shoots 5-15 in the first 3 quarters, then shoots 5-5 in the fourth, that is really the exact same thing as shooting 10-15 in the first 3 quarters and shooting 0-5 in the fourth. Cognitively, everybody has a problem with this concept. Pippen's all-round game gave his team more to work with in late game situations.

You're also forgetting how important Pippen's defense was during "clutch" moments. He got key deflections and steals during the 6 finals runs.

 

[Jplaya2023]

Pippen is better at everything except shooting and scoring so you tell me. Plus his ego would not of ruined the team.