Report: James Harden convinced Rockets to fire Kevin McHale, tried to get Dwight Howard traded

[GilSho]

But he wasn't a bad coach

He's an awful coach.

 

[42 Monks]

He's a defensive 1st player, why are you looking at him as a offensive player? He is one of the best man defenders in the NBA, check his numbers. Him rim protection FG% is 3rd to only Bogut and Gobert.

Lol at calling him "deadweight".

if you think ibaka is a premier defensive big in the league you lost

ibakas defense in the same league as bogut and gobert

 

[DonKnock]

Thread got real quiet for some reason:DKLean:




:DKHarden:

 

[Art Barr]

Maybe that's why OKC traded him?

Nah, they were trying to lowball spreadsheet harden so he would be signed to a cheap.broke ass reup deal in okc with limited value.
Had a former NCAA scoring champ riding pine.
Even Courtney lee was a starter then.


Art Barr

 

[Regular_P]

Feels like another media piece protecting Morey instead of placing any blame at his feet like usual.

 

[Luke Cage]

Signing Howard was a mistake to begin with, asik was giving them similar production for much less money, they could've use that cash to sign a point guard

 

[GilSho]

Thread got real quiet for some reason:DKLean:




:DKHarden:

Wonder why

 

[klutch2381]

Harden's personality is like that dude that you knew in high school that made varsity and suddenly became too cool for everything. He's too cool to play defense, too cool to pass (spare me the assist stats), too cool to workout in the offseason, too cool for his teammates, etc.

 

[duckbutta]

Maybe that's why OKC traded him?

I've been probably the biggest basher of that trade but I aint never thought about this

Can you imagine this James Harden right now in OKC with Sabo?

Durant wouldn't get 15 shots a game...might not get 10

Aint no way he would stay there if Harden ended being a fukkboy like this in OKC

Presti got a crystal ball

 

[Versa]

Can't win with him as your #1 option - I been saying this since forever.

Not trying to shyt on you, but I'd like to hear why you say this.

You always use stats to support why you feel Rondo sucks. What stats show Harden can't be the #1 option on a team and win?

He's averaging 28.6/6/7

Break down why that isn't good enough.

For the record James Harden has become my least favorite player in the league. I'm not caping for him, I just acknowledge he's a great player despite my disdain for his playstyle.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Not trying to shyt on you, but I'd like to hear why you say this.

You always use stats to support why you feel Rondo sucks. What stats show Harden can't be the #1 option on a team and win?

He's averaging 28.6/6/7

Break down why that isn't good enough.

For the record James Harden has become my least favorite player in the league. I'm not caping for him, I just acknowledge he's a great player despite my disdain for his playstyle.

Because his skillset and temperament is completely unreliable in a playoff setting. Don't get me wrong, he's one of the most talented guards we have in the league - he just isn't somebody you can rely on because his skillset is limited for that role - which is half the reason he's inconsistent.

In his last six playoff series - he's shot under 40% in FOUR of them (one of them against the Clippers where he was left on the bench in a series decider after playing horribly shooting 5-20, and his team came back from a near-20 point deficit in the 4th quarter without him - in one of the most, if not the most improbable comebacks in postseason history), against the Warriors he did have some standout games but they were ultimately tainted by his *edit Game 5 performance (Warriors closeout game) where he shot 2-11 and broke the record for most turnovers in a playoff game (12 turnovers). He also had a 10 turnover, 4-12 shooting performance against the Thunder a few seasons prior. Out of his last six playoff series, he's pretty much only had one good series (first round against the Mavs who were more dysfunctional than the Rockets) where he's been relatively consistent throughout; the rest of them have been either extremely poor or extremely inconsistent.

 

[Versa]

Because his skillset and temperament is completely unreliable in a playoff setting. Don't get me wrong, he's one of the most talented guards we have in the league - he just isn't somebody you can rely on because his skillset is limited for that role - which is half the reason he's inconsistent.

In his last six playoff series - he's shot under 40% in FOUR of them (one of them against the Clippers where he was left on the bench in a series decider after playing horribly shooting 5-20, and his team came back from a near-20 point deficit in the 4th quarter without him - in one of the most, if not the most improbable comebacks in postseason history), against the Warriors he did have some standout games but they were ultimately tainted by his Game 7 performance where he shot 2-11 and broke the record for most turnovers in a playoff game (12 turnovers). He also had a 10 turnover, 4-12 shooting performance against the Thunder a few seasons prior. Out of his last six playoff series, he's pretty much only had one good series (first round against the Mavs who were more dysfunctional than the Rockets) where he's been relatively consistent throughout; the rest of them have been either extremely poor or extremely inconsistent.

What do you mean when you say his skillset is limited in that role?

 

[Kang Deezy]

I've been probably the biggest basher of that trade but I aint never thought about this

Can you imagine this James Harden right now in OKC with Sabo?

Durant wouldn't get 15 shots a game...might not get 10

Aint no way he would stay there if Harden ended being a fukkboy like this in OKC

Presti got a crystal ball

You can't give presti credit cause he got shyt in return for harden

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

What do you mean when you say his skillset is limited in that role?

Because the basis of his game is still reliant upon getting calls - which is why he's inconsistent in the postseason because the refs don't always officiate the same every game/series. Yeah he's worked on filling in the holes between the rim and the 3-pt line, with a more active midrange game but he's still essentially the same player. To go along with being a streaky shooter and an inconsistent playmaker (due to his erratic and meandering disposition), he doesn't have the ability to dig himself out of holes. It's an effort thing too, which again is half the reason he's a poor defender.

 

[Lucky_Lefty]

nikkaz can hate on dwight all they want,
he leaves it all out there when it counts

Begs for a xx amount baby mama joke.