Report: LeBron James won't talk to the Cavs until they re-sign Tristan Thompson

[Captain Crunch]

Sitting during Brons thing was after the fact.
What does what Riley did to the Knicks have to do with Bron?
The wife stuff i agree was wrong on his part.

Saying in July "you don't walk on the first door out" yet he did that with the Knicks, makes Riley a hypocrite.

 

[WaddupDoe!]

Saying in July "you don't walk on the first door out" yet he did that with the Knicks, makes Riley a hypocrite.

True. But that was him trying to get Bron to stay. What was he suppose to say leave out the first door because i did? That Riley trying to get the best player in the game to stay with our franchise. Everybody is a hypocrite tho.

 

[ajnapoleon]

True. But that was him trying to get Bron to stay. What was he suppose to say leave out the first door because i did? That Riley trying to get the best player in the game to stay with our franchise. Everybody is a hypocrite tho.

But I heard most heat fans say he held bosh and wade down and did not let them do what they are capable to do. Now you have that so why would he want him to stay? I never understood that

 

[Lifer11]

Nah, I actually like Tristan Thompson & he has a lot of upside, but I just don't think he's worth a max contract currently at this point of his career plus the Cavs could use some of that proposed 80 + million to shore up the team with much better bench & role players than they have now.

Tristan isn't worth a max deal, but by next season when the cap jumps up a relatively drastic amount this will be a great deal and still leave the Cavs room to add more role players at the end of next season (cap is estimated to be $89 million in 2016 and $108 mil in 2017). With that in mind Tristan wouldn't be signing a true max deal. So it's one season with the same team from the midway point last year, and then an extra $20 million, give or take, added to the cap at the end of next season. If everyone stays healthy they'll be back in the chip with a good chance to win it, plus money to add role players in the 2016 offseason.

 

[nieman]

Lebron held Cleveland hostage, first-go-round, as well.

 

[Shogun]

We still got 7 mill for ya Bron-Bron :smugzen:

 

[Gravity]

LeBusiness

Bron's is supposed to stay in his place as a good field nikka and be happy

 

[O.G.B]

Tristan isn't worth a max deal, but by next season when the cap jumps up a relatively drastic amount this will be a great deal and still leave the Cavs room to add more role players at the end of next season (cap is estimated to be $89 million in 2016 and $108 mil in 2017). With that in mind Tristan wouldn't be signing a true max deal. So it's one season with the same team from the midway point last year, and then an extra $20 million, give or take, added to the cap at the end of next season. If everyone stays healthy they'll be back in the chip with a good chance to win it, plus money to add role players in the 2016 offseason.

LeBron & the Cavs should be trying to built a dynasty team right now, while the window of opportunity is still there, especially a legitimate one that can truly compete with the West squads who are continually improving.

Many assume that Kyrie will be back to his old form again & that he'll be able to stay healthy or that Kevin Love will be able to go deep into the playoffs without any setbacks in regards to injuries. And you never know if LeBron might have injury problems as well that could prevent him from playing in crucial games or hamper his overall performance. Plus without LeBron, the Cavs aren't really that good of a team, even in the East with All-Stars Love & Irving. So it's key for Cleveland to built a top notch group who isn't solely dependent primarily on LeBron & can win games without him if necessary which will also allow LBJ to play less minutes and rest. If the Cavs current draft picks aren't able to provide significant improvement as role players, the current lineup of so-so bench players are basically still the same. Furthermore, LeBron at the moment has more & more players that are willing to come to Cleveland, even though it's not considered a favorable city/franchise so he needs to capitalize on this by getting the best talent he possibly can.

I'm all for Bron making major moves on the other side of his basketball career & getting maximum paper via his management company while helping his friend/teammate, but he also has to be judicious as well & take a number of other factors into consideration, such as his overall legacy & quest to win a Larry O'Brien trophy for Cleveland.

 

[Lifer11]

LeBron & the Cavs should be trying to built a dynasty team right now, while the window of opportunity is still there, especially a legitimate one that can truly compete with the West squads who are continually improving.

Many assume that Kyrie will be back to his old form again & that he'll be able to stay healthy or that Kevin Love will be able to go deep into the playoffs without any setbacks in regards to injuries. And you never know if LeBron might have injury problems as well that could prevent him from playing in crucial games or hamper his overall performance. Plus without LeBron, the Cavs aren't really that good of a team, even in the East with All-Stars Love & Irving. So it's key for Cleveland to built a top notch group who isn't solely dependent primarily on LeBron's talents & can win games without him if necessary which will also allow him to play less minutes and rest. If the Cavs current draft picks aren't able to provide significant improvement as role players, the current lineup of so-so bench players are basically still the same. Furthermore, LeBron at the moment has more & more players that are willing to come to Cleveland, even though it's not considered a favorable city/franchise so he needs to capitalize on this by getting the best players he possibly can.

I'm all for Bron making major moves on the other side of his basketball career & getting maximum paper via his management company while helping his friend/teammate, but he also has to be judicious as well & take a number of other factors into consideration, such as his overall legacy & quest to win a Larry O'Brien trophy for Cleveland.

There's no one available right now that would be an upgrade at any position for the Cavs, they are currently set up to potentially become a dynasty, Lord willing if they all stay healthy and continue to progress individually and mesh as a team. They have Varejao coming back, Tristan should only get better, Love will have all the bullshyt behind him and can finally jump all in as a Cav, while Kyrie is getting closer and closer to his prime. Also like I said Tristan signing for $80 is a lot this season but when the cap jumps to approx. $89 mil next season and $108 mil in 2017, Tristan's contract will be a mid level type deal. And if he continues to get better it might even be viewed as a bargain contract one day. Ultimately though there is no one available in FA this year that the Cavs had a shot at that could've made them drastically better, and by next season they're gona have $20mil + in cap space anyway. A max deal this season is a mid level deal next season.

Mozgov/Varejao/Love/TT
Love/TT/Bron
Bron/James Jones/Miller
Shump/JR
Kyrie/Dellie

Thats a contender in either conference for years.

 

[O.G.B]

There's no one available right now that would be an upgrade at any position for the Cavs, they are currenctly set up to potentially become a dynasty, Lord willing if they all stay healthy and continue to progress individually and mesh as a team. Also like I said Tristan signing for $80 is a lot this season but when the cap jumps to approx. $89 mil next season and $108 mil in 2017, Tristan's contract will be a mid level type deal. And if he continues to get better it might even be viewed as a bargain contract. Ultimately though there is no one available in FA this year that the Cavs had a shot at that could've made them drastically better, and by next season they're gona have $20mil + in cap space anyway. A max deal this season is a mid level deal next season.

The Cavs had a number of opportunities to pick up better players via trade or FA, but they've more or less have squandered them. They could have tried for Monta Ellis, which is a better upgrade overall than Iman Shumpert for around the same cost. Also I believe they should have let TT walk & attempted to make a trade for Ty Lawson & Kenneth Faried who Denver has been trying to get rid of. David West IMO is also a cheaper upgrade over TT as well especially when the Cavs have Mosgov, Love, Varejao coming off the bench & the new draftee Rakeem Christmas.
It looks like they are interested in getting Joe Johnson as well . So it's not that the Cavs can't do anything with enhancing their player personnel, They are just doing a piss poor job of doing so.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/13202763/cleveland-cavaliers-interested-joe-johnson-brooklyn-nets

 

[Lifer11]

The Cavs had a number of opportunities to pick up better players via trade or FA, but they've more or less have squandered them. They could have tried for Monta Ellis, which is a better upgrade overall than Iman Shumpert for around the same cost. Also I believe they should have let TT walk & attempted to make a trade for Ty Lawson & Kenneth Faried who Denver has been trying to get rid of. David West IMO is also a cheaper upgrade over TT as well especially when the Cavs have Mosgov, Love, Varejao coming off the bench & the new draftee Rakeem Christmas.
It looks like they are interested in getting Joe Johnson as well . So it's not that the Cavs can't do anything with enhancing their player personnel, They are just doing a piss poor job of doing so.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/13202763/cleveland-cavaliers-interested-joe-johnson-brooklyn-nets

We're talking about a team that was 2 wins shy of a NBA chip missing their 2nd and 3rd best player. They don't need to make any major moves. Just a reload. Hope Thompson continues to improve, get Varejao back, and pray Love and Kyrie stay healthy. Monta Ellis is a great scorer, not a good role player on a good team (esp. not a 3rd or 4th option on a team where he'd be expected to sacrifice and play tough D first), Lawson and Faried wouldve taken too much, but if they couldve pulled that off without giving up too much I would love those 2 for the Cavs. David West may have a season or 2 tops left playing at TT's current level of play, where as TT has a whole career ahead of him (I think he has 6th man of the year potential this season). I don't think any of those moves (besides Lawson and Faried a move I don't think they couldn't have pulled off anyway) make them any better right now, and certainly not moving forward.

 

[Konnan]

Isn't Brian Windhurst that fat guy who writes a lot of bullshyt articles?

He's Lebrons stalker

Fools wrote books and everything about him

A true Stan

 

[O.G.B]

Mozgov/Varejao/Love/TT
Love/TT/Bron
Bron/James Jones/Miller
Shump/JR
Kyrie/Dellie

Thats a contender in either conference for years.

Without LeBron this is barely a team that could make it to the playoff in the East, if at all!

Mozgov/Varejao/Love/TT
Love/TT/Bron
Bron/James Jones/Miller
Shump/JR
Kyrie/Dellie

This same lineup (outside of Varejao) even with a healthy Love & Irving couldn't win but one game when LeBron was out for 2 weeks last year. And that's the problem. This lineup minus LeBron is just another crappy Cavs team of yore with a lot old, decrepit veterans or ineffective younger players despite a few good all-stars & and some exciting random talent in the mix.

 

[Lifer11]

[QUOTE="Lifer11, post: 14158347,

Mozgov/Varejao/Love/TT
Love/TT/Bron
Bron/James Jones/Miller
Shump/JR
Kyrie/Dellie

Thats a contender in either conference for years.


Without LeBron this is barely a team that could make it to the playoff in the East, if at all!

Mozgov/Varejao/Love/TT
Love/TT/Bron
Bron/James Jones/Miller
Shump/JR
Kyrie/Dellie

This same lineup (outside of Varejao) even with a healthy Love & Irving couldn't win but one game when LeBron was out for 2 weeks last year. And that's the problem. This lineup minus LeBron is just another crappy Cavs team of yore with a lot old, decrepit veterans or ineffective younger players despite a few good all-stars & and some exciting random talent in the mix.

Pointless discussion because Lebron is on that team. And with a healthy Kyrie and Love that's enough to contend in the East even without Lebron.

When Lebron was out Mozgov wasn't on the team yet. And who's an old decrepit vet on that team? Mozgov is 28..besides a couple bench players who get no tick theyre all relatively young.

 

[O.G.B]

Pointless discussion because Lebron is on that team. And with a healthy Kyrie and Love that's enough to contend in the East even without Lebron.

Nothing's ever pointless because you have to consider all factors: current, future & happenstance when building a successful team. And Irving or Love couldn't even get their perspective teams to the playoffs when they were the main number one superstar options in the past & their recent history of play together show the chances are slim to none for them do so even as a dual tandem on the Cavs.